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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
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Deflave, very limited dot time on others guns.
Don't like them, but recognize the craftsman isn't able to utilize the tool.
Not that the tool is bad.

Was thinking of trying an iron/dot setup to help find the dam thing.


Now, you got me thinking of just trying a dot on a 22 to get used to them.

If teaching a new handgunner, and wanting them to learn how to use
most anything, Dot or irons first.

I put a dot on the girls 22 rifle and they didn't like it at all.
They ask for the scope back. And that was for 50yd and under plinking.


I would also prefer a acope on a rifle

The Holosun 507C and K have a rear sight on the RDS that will cowitness



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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Guru on the Mountaintop,😁

Deflave, very limited dot time on others guns.
Don't like them, but recognize the craftsman isn't able to utilize the tool.
Not that the tool is bad.

Was thinking of trying an iron/dot setup to help find the dam thing.


Now, you got me thinking of just trying a dot on a 22 to get used to them.

If teaching a new handgunner, and wanting them to learn how to use
most anything, Dot or irons first.

I put a dot on the girls 22 rifle and they didn't like it at all.
They ask for the scope back. And that was for 50yd and under plinking.

My previous post on getting comfortable with them was in reference to defensive type shooting from a holster. And I do believe that a virgin pistol shooter will benefit greatly by going straight to an optic. This is for or a variety of reasons not the least of which being that you are going to have grip issues and presentation resolved right out of the gate. And that can only make you a better shooter in the long run.

But if you just want to try a dot to try a dot, sure. There's nothing wrong with slapping one on a .22LR and giving it a go.

My kids rifles wore dots a lot but for sub-25yds stuff. When I say this I'm referring to beer can or gopher size targets. Bigger targets allow their use out further but if the dot is covering a significant portion of what they want to hit they will struggle. Once my son wanted to start hitting small schit past 30ish yds I made sure he had a 4X or better. My oldest daughter was always fine hitting the stuff that was real close so never moved past them.


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Pard and his Wife flew home with me and after leaving the tarmac,I grabbed a few rifles and we headed out to confirm any/all bumps/bruises accrued in transit. He fiddle fhuqked with his schit and I handed her a 223 wearing a BTR Gen2 2-12x Mil FFP and she got windswept by perhaps 6-inches at 1300yds and drove same on the 2nd poke. Why?!? Chicks listen. Hint.

You Chicks would be WELL served to follow suit,as a RDS simply has NO fhuqking equal. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............


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Thanks.

My thought were a 22 to just get used to the thing.
Give one enough time to decide I like it.
Then move on.


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Dealinsuck,

It might be a thang,but watch out for the dust! Hint.

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Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................


Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Dealinsuck,

It might be a thang,but watch out for the dust! Hint.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]

Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................

That was mean.


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Thus far it would seem that those who put in the time and effort required to earn competence prefer a rds. You gotta do the reps to learn the lesson. There is no EZ button if you want to be a pistolerogrin


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Big Stick
Dealinsuck,

It might be a thang,but watch out for the dust! Hint.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]

Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................

That was mean.


Little Twig and I have respectfully disagreed in the past.πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

I quit tweaking him when it became apparent what a troubled, damaged
person he is. It's not right to kick someone like that.

He was just acting out in his mentally weakened way.

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I find him to be quite agreeable.


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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I think anyone that states RDS are a great improvement over irons with respect to speed and accuracy at short ranges are overstating their benefits. There are studies that she even the best shooters only benefit a little from RDSs, and poor shooters tend to do somewhat worse.

This is a study that's been bandied about for several years on many handgun shooting websites that suggests the limited benefits of a red dot for most people, while pointing out that lasers have a much bigger bigger benefit than RDSs for most shooters.

https://blog.krtraining.com/red-dot-study-key-points/

No dispute at longer ranges the RDS is better for accuracy.

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Dealinsuck,

Your Brokedick Retardation,only affects you...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Pardon wares that exist,as you "get" to play with your GoogleFu. Hint.

Watch out for that dust! Hint.

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Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............







Grocks,

Irons don't sweep Open Division Tournies,because they are SECRETLY "better" and "faster". Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!...................


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Originally Posted by 10Glocks
I think anyone that states RDS are a great improvement over irons with respect to speed and accuracy at short ranges are overstating their benefits. There are studies that she even the best shooters only benefit a little from RDSs, and poor shooters tend to do somewhat worse.

This is a study that's been bandied about for several years on many handgun shooting websites that suggests the limited benefits of a red dot for most people, while pointing out that lasers have a much bigger bigger benefit than RDSs for most shooters.

https://blog.krtraining.com/red-dot-study-key-points/

No dispute at longer ranges the RDS is better for accuracy.

I'll give my timers a stern talking to.

Thanks.


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Irons don't sweep Open Division Tournies,because they are SECRETLY "better" and "faster". Hint.

That's about as plain as it can be put.


Originally Posted by Geno67
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If you are on your sights at presentation, then you are on the DOT if you can't find the DOT then you aren't on your sights



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[quote=deflave]I find him to be quite agreeable.[img]http://[/img]I can see that you do !!!

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[quote=deflave]I find him to be quite agreeable.[img]http://[/img]


Jim wants everybody to know what his interpretation of "handgun" is.


Originally Posted by Geno67
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If you’re wrestling with the decision, and have a Glock Gen 3, this is about the same cost as buying the Holosun and sending the Glock slide off to be milled.

And, you get a threaded barrel and suppressor height sights.

And you still have your stock Glock upper in case you decide that this isn’t for you.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...un-hs507c-x2-reflex-sight-black-dlc.html


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Who’s milling slides for a direct mount ACRO?

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TWR,

If you google that question...

https://www.google.com/search?q=Who%E2%80%99s+milling+slides+for+a+direct+mount+ACRO&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS962US962&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


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I guess i should’ve asked who do we trust to mill slides. But thanks.

And thanks for the heads up on the slide and red dot combo, it just cost a buddy of mine some money. Or I should say saved him some.

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