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Its why Jesus destroyed the concept of organized Hierarchy when he said “it is finished”.
We (people) are the Kingdom of God, the building is only a meeting place.
By doing this he also made the Kingdom of God a moving target. Funny, you don't act like "the Kingdom of God". Yet you lay claim to it. I thought he also said "you would know them by their fruits"?
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CMIIW, but it sounds like SBC doles out some cash to member groups. That may not be an Achilles' heal in this case, but Satan will use even that to separate people from God. Instead, you'll get openly heretical, Satanic sham groups joining SBC. If SBC does anything to resist, BAM! back to these accusations.
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Good will become evil, and......
Its here, there and everywhere.
The Patriots and Trump are taking the evil Bolshevik Neonazis and Rinos and Dimocommies and DNC down in this war,
We are in the final battle between good (GOD) and evil (Satan).
GOD wins.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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There are no purse strings. Churches do not send money to the SBA except for missions. The SBA doesn’t send down pastors or anything else. The SBA makes and sells Sunday School materials to churches who may use them or not.
It’s not a firewall, it’s the way the churches are organized. The president of the SBA has absolutely no authority over any church whatsoever.
Report whatever you want to the SBA about anything you want, they have no authority to do anything to a church or an employee of the church. So you are saying everything written by the Baptist News.Com is a blatant lie? https://baptistnews.com/article/as-...ount-the-cost-of-this-work/#.YovE1EcpAzRTo the extent it disagrees with what I have said, yes. The SBC does not distribute funds to churches except for missions. That line about “making sure that efforts are not duplicated” tells the story. You know, like making sure four churches aren’t sending five missionaries to the same city while ignoring one five miles over. The SBC has real estate holdings. It has funds from investments. Funds related to seminaries. Funds from published materials and other things like that. All of which will go “poof” like a fart in the wind. It isn’t the Catholic Church. No congregation has to be a member. Baptists don’t recognize the authority of anyone, even their own pastors (lol), and certainly not some outside organization. Get rid of it today, and there would be a half dozen or more associations taking its place tomorrow. Baptists LOVE division. We’ve already got entire denominations differentiated on nothing more than weighty and eternally important questions like the nature of communion and whether a non member of that particular congregation can partake or whether each church should fund its own missions or cooperate with other churches or whether “church” means only ONE particular congregation or the body of believers as a whole and a hundred other similar questions. And that’s one more thing. If a pastor or other worker is leaving a church and going elsewhere, I guarantee you that 99 time out of a hundred a congregation knows why and chose to hire him anyway. People cannot and will not keep secrets and since there is almost no hierarchy even within a church, individual member can and do pick up the phone and or talk to people they know from the other congregation. Finally read the initial report linked. It said that out of one hundred names on the list, nine were still involved in ministry and two still in the SBC. So, that means that out of one hundred people on the list only two are still in the ministry at SBC churches. The SBC has no authority over its own churches but how in the heck is it supposed to have authority over non-SBC churches?
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These twats are trying to say if a pedophile wants to operate a Baptist Church to gain access to children the SBC has no authority to strip them of their charter.
They can just fly that Baptist Cross and do whatever they want.
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These twats are trying to say if a pedophile wants to operate a Baptist Church to gain access to children the SBC has no authority to strip them of their charter.
They can just fly that Baptist Cross and do whatever they want. A frequent complaint amongst Baptists themselves is that churches often do just that, call themselves Baptist while not really adhering to much theologically that is Baptist.
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Good will become evil, and......
Its here, there and everywhere.
The Patriots and Trump are taking the evil Bolshevik Neonazis and Rinos and Dimocommies and DNC down in this war,
We are in the final battle between good (GOD) and evil (Satan).
GOD wins. So Trump is on God's side? I have to ask because you can't because the man's behavior seems to be diametrically opposed to Christs' . It is good there are folks like you around to present evil as good.
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There is a huge movement in all denominations to merge Christianity with Marxism. They bend bible passages to fit Marxism. Reparations, one world government, utopia. The Heaven on Earth concept was never a part of Jesus' teachings. "My kingdom is not of this World". You either believe or not. There is no in-between. There is no compromise with Marxist worldviews.
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Its why Jesus destroyed the concept of organized Hierarchy when he said “it is finished”.
We (people) are the Kingdom of God, the building is only a meeting place.
By doing this he also made the Kingdom of God a moving target. Funny, you don't act like "the Kingdom of God". Yet you lay claim to it. I thought he also said "you would know them by their fruits"? Hypocracy much?
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Good will become evil, and......
Its here, there and everywhere.
The Patriots and Trump are taking the evil Bolshevik Neonazis and Rinos and Dimocommies and DNC down in this war,
We are in the final battle between good (GOD) and evil (Satan).
GOD wins. So Trump is on God's side? I have to ask because you can't because the man's behavior seems to be diametrically opposed to Christs' . It is good there are folks like you around to present evil as good. See above ^^^^
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Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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OP,
What is the source of the article that you shared? Considering their descent into SJW/cultural relevance I’d not doubt it but too many of these articles/opinions take an isolated case and make it sound large C catholic.
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Its why Jesus destroyed the concept of organized Hierarchy when he said “it is finished”.
We (people) are the Kingdom of God, the building is only a meeting place.
By doing this he also made the Kingdom of God a moving target. Funny, you don't act like "the Kingdom of God". Yet you lay claim to it. I thought he also said "you would know them by their fruits"? Hypocracy much? Let me guess, you're a "Christian" too?
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Its why Jesus destroyed the concept of organized Hierarchy when he said “it is finished”.
We (people) are the Kingdom of God, the building is only a meeting place.
By doing this he also made the Kingdom of God a moving target. Funny, you don't act like "the Kingdom of God". Yet you lay claim to it. I thought he also said "you would know them by their fruits"? Hypocracy much? Let me guess, you're a "Christian" too? Same as you "Minister", cept I'm not a hypocrite.
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LOL!!! Was told one of the older women at one of the pawnshops I go to .
Is married to some deacon or some hierarchy type who was fuucking a tard woman in the congregation at one of the churches here in the county. Dude was like retired army and former LEO IIRC...
Anyways he cried the forgive for I have sinned routine. Still a member of the upright citizens brigade at that church AFAIK. Tard women and her family had to go find another church. Cause of course it was all tard women's fault the churchy guy stuck his cock in her. Cause tard women are sly vixens possessed by the debil afterall..
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Always remember to take two Baptists on a fishing trip. If you only take one, he's gonna drink all your beer!
Ignorance can be fixed. Stupid is forever!
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A local church had a youth pastor knock up a young girl. Gotta wonder about how the parents allowed her to spend so much time with him(it was a lot) without concern.
His wife found out, she called the preacher, he called the deacons, come morning he was in custody.
No real bad publicity for that church.
People realize these things can happen, creeps creep in.
It is how it's handled.
Just like the Penn State/Sandusky thing. It wouldn't have been a big deal if the initial report had been followed up on and a police report made.
Paterno would have done a press conference, and blasted Sandusky for the POS he was. Showed concern for the victims and ended it.
But they hid it. For years. Becoming part of it by letting it continue.
Sandusky is a screwed up individual that committed evil for some reason. He deserves to die in prison.
Paterno and company were worse. They allowed the monster to prey on kids so they didn't lose money or get bad publicity for a stupid sporting team. Team, being an abstract term for their program.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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There are rapists, pedophiles, adulterers, etc in the world and always have been. Some of these hide under the veil of Christianity. This is not really anything new. It is actually an indictment on mankind, the human condition, and a great example of how immoral and Godless we have become.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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Its why Jesus destroyed the concept of organized Hierarchy when he said “it is finished”.
We (people) are the Kingdom of God, the building is only a meeting place.
By doing this he also made the Kingdom of God a moving target. Funny, you don't act like "the Kingdom of God". Yet you lay claim to it. I thought he also said "you would know them by their fruits"? Hypocracy much? Let me guess, you're a "Christian" too? Same as you "Minister", cept I'm not a hypocrite. Steelhead, you're a huge hypocrite and I'm not a "Minister".
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Steelhead, you're a huge hypocrite and I'm not a "Minister". Preacher, Pastor, Chaplain, Vicar, Minister, Whatever you're a Hypocrite "Holy Man". Ya, Steelhead is a Hypocrite too. Maybe you two should hang out.
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