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Have had bad luck with Hornady 7mm 162 and 30cal 180 .


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480 Hornady DGX.
Shed the core, veered off course and never hit vials. Second shot was a cast bullet, penetrated straight, finished the job.

I hear they fixed them but who knows


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Originally Posted by MadDog4298
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For me bullets fired out of a muzzleloader.

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Never had any problems with Muzzleloader bullets. Maxi Hunters I think years ago, then saboted XTP’s etc and I think last ones was powerbelt bullets or similar. Open sighted TC renegade, place bullet in vitals, walk over retrieve deer. Easy peasy

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Originally Posted by ratsmacker
The bullet I revile the most is the .277" 140 Hornady BTSP. I only shot two deer with them, and in both cases, the bullet shattered, blew up, whatever you want to call it, and didn't penetrate much, but blew huge chunks of meat everywhere. I eventually got both deer recovered, but it was not a pretty sight in either case. Those were the early ones with the cannelure WAY back on the bullet. Hornady changed the location of the cannelure later, but it didn't really help them much. I was shooting them out of a 22" .270 Winchester with H-4831 pushing them, nothing outrageous in any way. Those bullets were just dead soft and pretty much worthless. Both deer weren't very big, either, one little doe and a seven point buck of average size for a corn-fed Missouri deer.
I switched over to Remington Bronze Point 130gr. bullets and had wonderful results on the next few deer I shot with that rifle. Then Remington discontinued the Bronze Points as component bullets, which torqued me off considerably. After that, I went over to Sierra 130gr. Pro-Hunter flatbased bullets, which I continue to use today.


This matches my experience with the 140 .277 Hornady as well. Total garbage performance. I’ve also had similar results with the Hornady 250gr .358 spire point in my .358s I finally called Hornady to ask what gives with your 250s. I was told that 2400fps is “too fast” for those bullets, that they’re not designed for that sort of velocity. ???!
Hornadys have proven too inconsistent between weights and calibers for me to trust much. The 165 spire points, and now discontinued 220 round noses were always great, while the 180s sucked.

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Like so many others... Had a terrible experience with a 165 gr BT when they were first intro'd. That was 94 or 95 or somewhere in there. Didnt use them again til 2013 when I tried them in the 243. They definitely toughened them up cause the 90 and 95's are hammers now. Had some borderline bad experiences with gamekings but I recovered the deer so cant be considered a failure... more of a mess.

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Win silver tip's - totally unpredictable on impact. They may turn into a varmint bullet or FMJ! confused

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I remember once it took five rounds of Federal blue box .25/06 ammo loaded with 120gn Speer bullets to put down a good boar. I was hitting him just behind the shoulder/front leg. They were just penciling through. Eventually I hit him right through the thick shoulder pad and it dropped him. For the rest of the trip I aimed to drive the bullet through the heavy shoulder and the pigs just dropped. But aim four to six inches back and they would run. I remember being amazed as I had always thought Speer bullets to be rather soft but this example taught me otherwise. So two totally different killing effects determined by bullet placement.

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Originally Posted by DoeDumper
Like so many others... Had a terrible experience with a 165 gr BT when they were first intro'd. That was 94 or 95 or somewhere in there. Didnt use them again til 2013 when I tried them in the 243. They definitely toughened them up cause the 90 and 95's are hammers now. Had some borderline bad experiences with gamekings but I recovered the deer so cant be considered a failure... more of a mess.

Ballistic Tips came out about ten years before then, though I can't say about the 165 in particular.


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Pretty good bullets now though.

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Bergers. My buddy has a 300WM and was using bergers on pronghorn and deer. My god what a mess they made. Looked like you taped a grenade on their side. One hell of a mess.


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Old Winchester Silver Tips were the worst I’ve seen. Pretty frangible bullet.

Those who dis Barnes TTSX obviously are lacking on game experience with them or shooting them real slow. But maybe they are shooting them out of a Rem 700 with a Walker trigger and Leupold scope in see-through mounts?


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Absolutely the worst bullets are ones that aren't placed in the right spot....mb


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Only bullet that I don’t want to see again is the early Ballistic Tip. 165gr .30 is the only version I’ve used. Others have made the case for massive shallow destruction.

Muzzleloader success surprises me. We have used the 250gr .45 Hornady sabot, the 200gr .40 TC by Hornady and the Barnes 200gr .429 pistol bullet. All in CVA Optima using BH209. In only a dozen or so cases all but one worked great. The oddball was a 200gr tipped with full weighed charge. I stuck it near the base of the neck on a nice buck walking toward me at less than 15 yds. It blew up on the spine. As in there was a large cavity in the neck where bone, meat and metal came together. The most damaging bullet by far has been the Barnes XPB.


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The early ballistic tip and the early Sierra hunting bullets were nearly explosive. The early top of the line Speer hunting bullet was garbage. The 105 grain Speer 6mm hunting bullet could just as well been a solid.
The early Hornady SST was garbage - again nearly explosive.


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Originally Posted by WAM
Old Winchester Silver Tips were the worst I’ve seen. Pretty frangible bullet.

Those who dis Barnes TTSX obviously are lacking on game experience with them or shooting them real slow. But maybe they are shooting them out of a Rem 700 with a Walker trigger and Leupold scope in see-through mounts?

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Originally Posted by WAM
Old Winchester Silver Tips were the worst I’ve seen. Pretty frangible bullet.

Those who dis Barnes TTSX obviously are lacking on game experience with them or shooting them real slow. But maybe they are shooting them out of a Rem 700 with a Walker trigger and Leupold scope in see-through mounts?
Even when shot fast TTSX do not kill that fast IME.

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How did I forget the crap Winchester deer season bullets?


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How did I forget the crap Winchester deer season bullets?

tell me more... too fragile, too hard, inaccurate? thanks

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Originally Posted by BWalker
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Old Winchester Silver Tips were the worst I’ve seen. Pretty frangible bullet.

Those who dis Barnes TTSX obviously are lacking on game experience with them or shooting them real slow. But maybe they are shooting them out of a Rem 700 with a Walker trigger and Leupold scope in see-through mounts?
Even when shot fast TTSX do not kill that fast IME.

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Barnes X bullets.for me.


Industry misnomer:The 270 Winchester, 7mm Rem Mag, 30-06 Springfield, ect, are calibers.

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