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I MUCH prefer a 19" 6BR to a 24" 308 in all regards,including performance. Hint. Bullets matter wayyyyyyyy more than headstamps and the BR is a Giant Killer,to distances greater than double the cited. Hint............ Love the name on that rifle.
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BWilson,
I've had a bunch of your stuff in my gun closet starting with hand massaged Colts with comps from WAY back in the day.
My 8" ham'r suppressed pistol walks the farm with me daily.
On to the NULA-
What'll get most of us here all hot n bothered is a 7 twist 223 that can kiss lands with a mag fed 88 ELD-M and 90 grain A-Tip.
Offer us that rifle in a threaded 16" and non-treaded 20" and you'll be the hero.
A factory 6BR and/or ARC is a close second for making dreams come true . . .
Congrats and best of luck 🤞
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BWilson,
I've had a bunch of your stuff in my gun closet starting with hand massaged Colts with comps from WAY back in the day.
My 8" ham'r suppressed pistol walks the farm with me daily.
On to the NULA-
What'll get most of us here all hot n bothered is a 7 twist 223 that can kiss lands with a mag fed 88 ELD-M and 90 grain A-Tip.
Offer us that rifle in a threaded 16" and non-treaded 20" and you'll be the hero.
A factory 6BR and/or ARC is a close second for making dreams come true . . .
Congrats and best of luck 🤞 Amen my friend!
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BWilson,
I've had a bunch of your stuff in my gun closet starting with hand massaged Colts with comps from WAY back in the day.
My 8" ham'r suppressed pistol walks the farm with me daily.
On to the NULA-
What'll get most of us here all hot n bothered is a 7 twist 223 that can kiss lands with a mag fed 88 ELD-M and 90 grain A-Tip.
Offer us that rifle in a threaded 16" and non-treaded 20" and you'll be the hero.
A factory 6BR and/or ARC is a close second for making dreams come true . . .
Congrats and best of luck 🤞 Agreed, but I’d be even happier if it were 6.5” twist.
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BWilson,
I've had a bunch of your stuff in my gun closet starting with hand massaged Colts with comps from WAY back in the day.
My 8" ham'r suppressed pistol walks the farm with me daily.
On to the NULA-
What'll get most of us here all hot n bothered is a 7 twist 223 that can kiss lands with a mag fed 88 ELD-M and 90 grain A-Tip.
Offer us that rifle in a threaded 16" and non-treaded 20" and you'll be the hero.
A factory 6BR and/or ARC is a close second for making dreams come true . . .
Congrats and best of luck 🤞 https://newultralightarms.com/?page_id=10Model 20 SHORT The magazine box is 2.5-inches long. The Ultimate Mountain Rifle is available for the following cartridges: 223 Remington (Wylde) with a 16-, 18, or 20-inch barrel 300 HAMR with a 16- or 18-inch barrel 350 Legend with a 16-inch barrel Model 20 .......and the magazine box is 3 inches long. The Ultimate Mountain Rifle is available for the following cartridges: 243 Winchester with a 20- or 22-inch barrel 6.5 Creedmoor with an 18-, 20-, or 22-inch barrel 7mm-08 Remington with a 20-inch barrel 284 Winchester with a 22-inch barrel 308 Winchester with a 16-, 18-, or 20-inch barrel The above are Mr. Wilson's planned offerings from the start. Limited info but it looks like a really solid first group to be offering. I'd think the 6.5 Grendel would be a more likely candidate than the 6BR or ARC, and that's not an argument against either of them, just thought on sales for most folks. I'm not sure how much leeway there is on opening the 20S mag box to 2.6-2.75, I'm guessing it could go all the way to 3"....as long as it doesn't hurt feeding on shorter rounds having a touch more mag length isn't a bad thing. Any way Mr. Wilson decides to go, I'm exciting he's carrying the torch.
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lotech,
The standard magazine boxes on Model 20s have been three inches long since Melvin started making them in the 1980s. John, I’m not sure this is accurate. My model 20 in .260 built in 1997 does indeed have a 3” magazine, but my model 20S’s built in 2003 and 2012 both have 2.5” magazines. I think you meant the model 20 has always had a 3” magazine which is true, but the model 20S has a 2.5” magazine. Les
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I took 20s to be plural of 20.
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BWilson,
I've had a bunch of your stuff in my gun closet starting with hand massaged Colts with comps from WAY back in the day.
My 8" ham'r suppressed pistol walks the farm with me daily.
On to the NULA-
What'll get most of us here all hot n bothered is a 7 twist 223 that can kiss lands with a mag fed 88 ELD-M and 90 grain A-Tip.
Offer us that rifle in a threaded 16" and non-treaded 20" and you'll be the hero.
A factory 6BR and/or ARC is a close second for making dreams come true . . .
Congrats and best of luck 🤞 bingo.
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LBP,
Apparently you didn't notice that I typed 20s, NOT 20S. 20s is the correct term for multiple Model 20 magazines, which is what I was addressing, not the Model 20 Short (20S) actions.
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I took 20s to be plural of 20. You were correct Sir my mistake.
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
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LBP,
Apparently you didn't notice that I typed 20s, NOT 20S. 20s is the correct term for multiple Model 20 magazines, which is what I was addressing, not the Model 20 Short (20S) actions. I thought of that after I sent my post, sorry.
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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I have a ULA Model 20 in 284 Melvin built for me in 1990 that I have drug all over North America. I'm pretty sure it came with a 2.75 inch magazine box because I always had to watch the cartridge length because of that. When I sent it in 4 or 5 years ago for a face lift I had Melvin put the 3 inch magazine box in the stock at that time.
When I bought the rifle I had Superior Ammunition load me up about 20 boxes of 284 140 grain Nosler Partitions of which I still have a couple left. All the cartridges are just a shade under 2.75" long for that reason. Had to shove that Partition quite a ways in the case on top of the 55 grains of IMR 4350 to keep it under 2.75".
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I have a ULA Model 20 in 284 Melvin built for me in 1990 that I have drug all over North America. I'm pretty sure it came with a 2.75 inch magazine box because I always had to watch the cartridge length because of that. When I sent it in 4 or 5 years ago for a face lift I had Melvin put the 3 inch magazine box in the stock at that time.
When I bought the rifle I had Superior Ammunition load me up about 20 boxes of 284 140 grain Nosler Partitions of which I still have a couple left. All the cartridges are just a shade under 2.75" long for that reason. Had to shove that Partition quite a ways in the case on top of the 55 grains of IMR 4350 to keep it under 2.75". That is interesting. You got me curious, so I measured a 20 built in 1988 - 3.0” box.
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Yea I know. Heard it before. They barely fit and sometimes the recoil would flatten the tips on the top one in the magazine.
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Yea I know. Heard it before. They barely fit and sometimes the recoil would flatten the tips on the top one in the magazine. Wasn’t trying to be disagreeable at all. I believe you - was just curious myself.
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No offense taken believe me. I was hesitant to even mention it. One thing for sure it is a shooter/killer. Was, is, and always will be with that load. Never shot anything else in it.
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I have a ULA Model 20 in 284 Melvin built for me in 1990 that I have drug all over North America. I'm pretty sure it came with a 2.75 inch magazine box because I always had to watch the cartridge length because of that. When I sent it in 4 or 5 years ago for a face lift I had Melvin put the 3 inch magazine box in the stock at that time.
When I bought the rifle I had Superior Ammunition load me up about 20 boxes of 284 140 grain Nosler Partitions of which I still have a couple left. All the cartridges are just a shade under 2.75" long for that reason. Had to shove that Partition quite a ways in the case on top of the 55 grains of IMR 4350 to keep it under 2.75". That is interesting. You got me curious, so I measured a 20 built in 1988 - 3.0” box. I will take them both... Oh wait, wrong place
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"I heard a rumor Wilson may be buying NULA"
Not maybe, did.
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"I heard a rumor Wilson may be buying NULA"
Not maybe, did. Thank you for clearing that up.
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I have a ULA Model 20 in 284 Melvin built for me in 1990 that I have drug all over North America. I'm pretty sure it came with a 2.75 inch magazine box because I always had to watch the cartridge length because of that. When I sent it in 4 or 5 years ago for a face lift I had Melvin put the 3 inch magazine box in the stock at that time.
When I bought the rifle I had Superior Ammunition load me up about 20 boxes of 284 140 grain Nosler Partitions of which I still have a couple left. All the cartridges are just a shade under 2.75" long for that reason. Had to shove that Partition quite a ways in the case on top of the 55 grains of IMR 4350 to keep it under 2.75". That is interesting. You got me curious, so I measured a 20 built in 1988 - 3.0” box. I will take them both... Oh wait, wrong place Going to be some serious quick draw on nulas for a while!
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