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Gray hair, ponytail, gray beard, earings, baggy shorts............

Oops, I may not meet someone's approval

But, I was wearing the appropriate snow boots for the job, so that's got to be good for a coupla points?
Wait a sec.. Earring?
Don't be judgy.

Hoops or studs??
I bet ol' Geno is a gauger.

Haven't found the need yet.

Maybe in a few years when I hit 70 or so.


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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Not much more pathetic than an old hippie. Come to think of it they were pretty pathetic when they were young.
Wasn't ever a "hippie".

They're non-violent.


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Originally Posted by Raferman
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Gray hair, ponytail, gray beard, earings, baggy shorts............

Oops, I may not meet someone's approval

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But, I was wearing the appropriate snow boots for the job, so that's got to be good for a coupla points?
Were you wearing crocs that time you went wheeling?
In the creek 😁
Driving barefoot. Sandals under the seat to get out when I arrived at the docs.

Had to wade down the creek 50' or so, over rocks and boulders and what not just to get past the majority of the brambles on the bank so's I could climb over the boulder rip rap armoring the road and get up to where help was arriving. 45F air temp maybe, drizzling, me in a t shirt and shorts, barefoot. Have now idea what the water temp was, Real Men like me aren't concerned about little things like that in those conditions.

Was lucky, the 4 Mexican fellas ( I didn't ask if they were immigrants of any flavor) that saw my car in the creek and had turned around to come back and check provided me with a thin jacket and a pair of flip flops. Some lady came by and donated me a blanket. Good thing too, as it took awhile (it usually does Out West) for the official helpers to arrive.

I guess I could have dressed for the occasion at home, put on my wet suit or at least the chest waders, for a 180 mile drive. That would have made for a comfortable 3+ hours. That might be what some folks would think appropriate.

PS, I was lucky enough to get the sandals back, my worn out favorites, when we got my scheidt out of the tow yard.

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Gray hair, ponytail, gray beard, earings, baggy shorts............

Oops, I may not meet someone's approval

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But, I was wearing the appropriate snow boots for the job, so that's got to be good for a coupla points?



Right there with you my northern Brother!

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you rock!


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Dress as you like folks, a hockey goalie would look silly dressed as a cowboy, and a cowboy dressed as goalie. laugh


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I never could wear flip flops for any extended period of time. I bought a nice pair of leather Olu Kai flip flops in Maui last year so that I had some fancy dress up flip flops for high falootin joints but after an hour or less of wearing them the space between my big toe and second toe starts hurting. I’ve got a half dozen pairs of flip flops from $5-$125 and they’re all as uncomfortable as hell.

I’ve never owned a pair of crocs and likely never will, they’re not my style. If I need something akin to Crocs then I’ll throw on one of the dozen pairs of Romeos that I have since they’re comfortable and they slip on easily. I mostly wear square towed Wolverine boots anymore but occasionally in nice weather I’ll wear Romeos. My boots are as comfortable as my Romeos but offer more protection so they get the nod most days.

I never spent much time worrying about the footwear of other men but I use the rule of 70 when I do….if anyone under 70 years old or with an IQ above 70 wears Velcro tenny runners I turn tail and head the opposite direction since they’re likely a few apples short of a bushel…😁


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Aces, you might try some slides instead of the "thongs" as we used to call them (that word has a newer meaning for sure)

I'd love moving to Hawai'i if we could afford it. Go do business in shorts, a Hawai'ian shirt, and a pair of flip flops. No need for suits and ties.


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Originally Posted by Valsdad
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Gray hair, ponytail, gray beard, earings, baggy shorts............

Oops, I may not meet someone's approval

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But, I was wearing the appropriate snow boots for the job, so that's got to be good for a coupla points?
Looks like a fashion statement to me. Certainly not practical to have all that hair in the summer heat of Cali. I suggest a trip to Woodstock where you'd fit right in.


You'd be quite surprised at how well the beard and long hair insulate from the heat. Having lived in places where it actually gets hot, no heat index needed, I might know.

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Not sure if that was the day the official thermometer at the station read 126-128F, but we'd have weeks where it was over 110F every day and would hit 120+ more than a few times every summer.

Haven't shaved the beard since '79 -'80, so that might be an indication a Real Man can deal with little things like that.
Yeah, more insulation is always good in the summer. That's why I always wear my insulated boots and parka in August. Look, I grew a beard and let my hair grow out for winter/hunting season for years. I'd shave and cut my hair short in the summer because it's cooler and I've spent enough time in a 120-130* hay mow stacking bales to know. It's fine by me if looking like a scurfy ass old hippie makes you happy and helps you feel like a manly man. I guess if my mug was too damned ugly to go out in public without scaring old ladies and small children I might keep it covered with a beard all year myself. Fortunately that isn't the case so I can enjoy being clean shaven in the warmer months .

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Well, if you have insulation in the attic/under the roof of your house and don't believe it helps in the summer, I suggest you take it out every spring before it starts heating up.


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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Well, if you have insulation in the attic/under the roof of your house and don't believe it helps in the summer, I suggest you take it out every spring before it starts heating up.
Don't know about you but my internal body temp runs about 99*. My house doesn't have an internal temp like that so insulation will help keep the cooler air in and the heat out. Just gave my long haired dog his summer shave last week. Without it he suffers in the heat.

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Yeah, and the beard and long hair keep my face at 98F and keep the 100F+ degrees off. Along with some evaporative cooling too.


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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Yeah, and the beard and long hair keep my face at 98F and keep the 100F+ degrees off. Along with some evaporative cooling too.

Yep. Like a swamp cooler.


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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Yeah, and the beard and long hair keep my face at 98F and keep the 100F+ degrees off. Along with some evaporative cooling too.
I've found my head will sweat and cool from evaporation much better if it ain't covered in a thick layer of insulation, which is why I don't wear an insulated winter hat in the summer.. If insulation helps keep you cooler in the summer more power to ya. You might try ditching the shorts and wearing some insulated pants and insulated long sleeved shirt or maybe even a coat. That should keep you positively comfy on those scorching hot summer days. Or have you heat stroking out in short order.

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Yeah, and the beard and long hair keep my face at 98F and keep the 100F+ degrees off. Along with some evaporative cooling too.
I've found my head will sweat and cool from evaporation much better if it ain't covered in a thick layer of insulation, which is why I don't wear an insulated winter hat in the summer.. If insulation helps keep you cooler in the summer more power to ya. You might try ditching the shorts and wearing some insulated pants and insulated long sleeved shirt or maybe even a coat. That should keep you positively comfy on those acorching hot summer days. Or have you heat stroking out in short order.

Good evening Blackheart.
I am currently helping a Mexican crew with a remodel on the western slope.
Those guys do just like you say and work their asses off wearing
hoodies , long pants, insulated steel toes and its typically over 65 ? Occasionally as hot as 90.
I dont know how they do it? I'm in shorts and tee shirt and those guys are bundled up like winter.

I was on a vacation with a Polish woman on Marthas Vineyard one summer.
We went to the nudie beach just about every day for 3 weeks.
Not a stitch on and I was always hot ?

Wind coming off the coast, neked as a jay same as everyone else and just hotter'n hell all the time?
Funny story, when guys gotta take a leak, they wade out into 4 feet of water and pee. You can always tell because it takes a minute to get used to the temperature change. You cant just bust out a gushing stream of piss when entering a cold ocean.
Women just stay put and pee little holes in the sand just where they sit.
Pretty handy for them.

Anyway I dont think there is a fool proof way to stay cool and its situational at best.
How did your Aunt that had the covid do? You never mentioned her after posting.


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Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
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Yeah, and the beard and long hair keep my face at 98F and keep the 100F+ degrees off. Along with some evaporative cooling too.
I've found my head will sweat and cool from evaporation much better if it ain't covered in a thick layer of insulation, which is why I don't wear an insulated winter hat in the summer.. If insulation helps keep you cooler in the summer more power to ya. You might try ditching the shorts and wearing some insulated pants and insulated long sleeved shirt or maybe even a coat. That should keep you positively comfy on those acorching hot summer days. Or have you heat stroking out in short order.

Good evening Blackheart.
I am currently helping a Mexican crew with a remodel on the western slope.
Those guys do just like you say and work their asses off wearing
hoodies , long pants, insulated steel toes and its typically over 65 ? Occasionally as hot as 90.
I dont know how they do it? I'm in shorts and tee shirt and those guys are bundled up like winter.

I was on a vacation with a Polish woman on Marthas Vineyard one summer.
We went to the nudie beach just about every day for 3 weeks.
Not a stitch on and I was always hot ?

Wind coming off the coast, neked as a jay same as everyone else and just hotter'n hell all the time?
Funny story, when guys gotta take a leak, they wade out into 4 feet of water and pee. You can always tell because it takes a minute to get used to the temperature change. You cant just bust out a gushing stream of piss when entering a cold ocean.
Women just stay put and pee little holes in the sand just where they sit.
Pretty handy for them.

Anyway I dont think there is a fool proof way to stay cool and its situational at best.
How did your Aunt that had the covid do? You never mentioned her after posting.
She's still alive and doing well. Thanks for asking. You sure those Mexicans aen't shooting up ? Reason I ask is I used to work with a guy that did and he was always cold and wore a hoodie on the hottest days.

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Originally Posted by Blackheart
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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Yeah, and the beard and long hair keep my face at 98F and keep the 100F+ degrees off. Along with some evaporative cooling too.
I've found my head will sweat and cool from evaporation much better if it ain't covered in a thick layer of insulation, which is why I don't wear an insulated winter hat in the summer.. If insulation helps keep you cooler in the summer more power to ya. You might try ditching the shorts and wearing some insulated pants and insulated long sleeved shirt or maybe even a coat. That should keep you positively comfy on those acorching hot summer days. Or have you heat stroking out in short order.

Good evening Blackheart.
I am currently helping a Mexican crew with a remodel on the western slope.
Those guys do just like you say and work their asses off wearing
hoodies , long pants, insulated steel toes and its typically over 65 ? Occasionally as hot as 90.
I dont know how they do it? I'm in shorts and tee shirt and those guys are bundled up like winter.

I was on a vacation with a Polish woman on Marthas Vineyard one summer.
We went to the nudie beach just about every day for 3 weeks.
Not a stitch on and I was always hot ?

Wind coming off the coast, neked as a jay same as everyone else and just hotter'n hell all the time?
Funny story, when guys gotta take a leak, they wade out into 4 feet of water and pee. You can always tell because it takes a minute to get used to the temperature change. You cant just bust out a gushing stream of piss when entering a cold ocean.
Women just stay put and pee little holes in the sand just where they sit.
Pretty handy for them.

Anyway I dont think there is a fool proof way to stay cool and its situational at best.
How did your Aunt that had the covid do? You never mentioned her after posting.
She's still alive and doing well. Thanks for asking. You sure those Mexicans aen't shooting up ? Reason I ask is I used to work with a guy that did and he was always cold and wore a hoodie on the hottest days.

I'm pretty sure they are clean , we all had to do piss tests for the home owners insurance to remain intact for being "invited" on the premises. Even the lawn crew had to pee?
I'm glad your Aunt is OK.


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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Aces, you might try some slides instead of the "thongs" as we used to call them (that word has a newer meaning for sure)

Whatever you do, don't get Blackie started on thongs.

He might post some pics.



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Originally Posted by Blackheart
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Yeah, and the beard and long hair keep my face at 98F and keep the 100F+ degrees off. Along with some evaporative cooling too.
I've found my head will sweat and cool from evaporation much better if it ain't covered in a thick layer of insulation, which is why I don't wear an insulated winter hat in the summer.. If insulation helps keep you cooler in the summer more power to ya. You might try ditching the shorts and wearing some insulated pants and insulated long sleeved shirt or maybe even a coat. That should keep you positively comfy on those scorching hot summer days. Or have you heat stroking out in short order.
You're a funny fellow for sure.

When it gets really hot, sometimes loose thin clothing is exactly the thing to do.

Insulated "clothing" defeats the air circulation/evaporative cooling thing. A beard doesn't.

Even an old guy like me has that figured out.


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Originally Posted by Valsdad
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Yeah, and the beard and long hair keep my face at 98F and keep the 100F+ degrees off. Along with some evaporative cooling too.
I've found my head will sweat and cool from evaporation much better if it ain't covered in a thick layer of insulation, which is why I don't wear an insulated winter hat in the summer.. If insulation helps keep you cooler in the summer more power to ya. You might try ditching the shorts and wearing some insulated pants and insulated long sleeved shirt or maybe even a coat. That should keep you positively comfy on those scorching hot summer days. Or have you heat stroking out in short order.
You're a funny fellow for sure.

When it gets really hot, sometimes loose thin clothing is exactly the thing to do.

Insulated "clothing" defeats the air circulation/evaporative cooling thing. A beard doesn't.

Even an old guy like me has that figured out.
I've found when it's really hot the less clothing the better I like it so I generally take my shirt off. Of course nothing will really keep you "cool" when it's really hot but like my long haired dog, the less hair I have the better I feel. All the guys I worked with on the railroad apparently felt the same. We'd start in the wee hours of a cool summer morning wearing long sleeved shirts but by mid morning they had all been shed along with the T-shirts underneath and everybody was bare chested.

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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Aces, you might try some slides instead of the "thongs" as we used to call them (that word has a newer meaning for sure)

Whatever you do, don't get Blackie started on thongs.

He might post some pics.
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