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I’ve had two Montecs snap off in the shaft, from “stump” shooting over the years - when I got back into bow hunting.

Granted - it’s not what they were designed to do, but I generally picked a rotten log or soft stump, and could get the arrow out without much effort.

I personally couldn’t get them to fly right again if I “dinged” the blade edge practicing. Between that and not really liking the effort to keep an edge on one - I dropped them for Rage in the East, and Slick Tricks in the West.

Hunting partner has killed two elk with Montecs - so they work, but IMWV.

But - confessions of a gear junkie - I’m trying the Sevrs this year as well.

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Originally Posted by MOGC
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QAD Exodus. Really like how well it flies. Very durable and has been deadly

My son and I both shoot the QAD Exodus and love the things. They are easy to tune for, fly like a bullet, penetrate and kill extremely well. We have about three dozen kills and have no complaints with the Exodus.

Old bow Bud of mine that keeps a hard eye on all things archery told me about them more than 4 years ago, pointed me to a utube video of QAD owner shooting through a lot of heavy game in Africa, plenty good enough for me, it's a damn tough, straight flying, deep penetrating head.


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There were a lot of Montec made in china knockoffs sold a few years back, They crumpled almost instantly on game. The original packaging and the knockoff packaging was hard to differentiate.

I know of only one guy that shoots them exclusively out of a Ravin R20 and has not had an issue , and he kills more deer and hogs in one year then most hunters do in a few.


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I was introduced to TH 125's when I first started, G5 Montecs, Muzzy, Wasps, have all done the job for me.

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Originally Posted by gunner500
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Originally Posted by higher_figure
QAD Exodus. Really like how well it flies. Very durable and has been deadly

My son and I both shoot the QAD Exodus and love the things. They are easy to tune for, fly like a bullet, penetrate and kill extremely well. We have about three dozen kills and have no complaints with the Exodus.

Old bow Bud of mine that keeps a hard eye on all things archery told me about them more than 4 years ago, pointed me to a utube video of QAD owner shooting through a lot of heavy game in Africa, plenty good enough for me, it's a damn tough, straight flying, deep penetrating head.

One other thing I have noticed about the Exodus is that they are quiet in flight. Some broadheads make a lot of noise going downrange. Not the Exodus. I have stood behind my house where I am completely protected yet can hear a broadhead as my son shot past the house to a target down range. The way my yard lays out he can be shooting at 30, 40, 50 yards to a target and I can stand protected behind the corner of the house 20 yards from the target. In that way I can listen for the arrow coming from 10-30 yards away. It's shocking how loud some broadheads are.


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Wenzle Woodsman or Ace Standard in modern heads but I shoot a bunch of older heads also. I shot Rocky Mountains for years then switched to the one piece heads. I shoot an old Martin recurved limbed compound and an assortment of long bows. Still have my all wood round wheel Browning bows but I no longer hunt them.

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Slick Tricks.

Have used WASP and Muzzy in the past - not bad but I won the ST's and just never went back


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Muzzy Trocar 100gr has been my go to, but they always seem to get bent when i shoot something. Switched this year to the G5 Stricker v2 so i can replace the blades a little easier if they get bent.

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Originally Posted by Godogs57
Originally Posted by Yoder409
Originally Posted by Windknot
I've got some Montec I've had a while but never hunted yet. Believe I'll go with them, no doubt a CoC head is all around best!

Just anecdotal advice.......... But I had a Montec fail to penetrate on a (hard) quartering away shot on a GOOD whitetail at about 15 yards one time. Placed the shot about one rib from the back. Shoulda exited the far armpit. Instead........the arrow ran under the hide but outside the ribcage and the head lodged in the near armpit. It's a shot I've made several times with various other heads............Steelforce.........the old Razorbak 5........... Rocky Mt............

I quit shooting the Montecs right then and there.

Funny you should say that. One of the ranches I elk hunt on has a mantle over one of their fireplaces that is dedicated to displaying failed broadheads found in elk that are skinned and quartered @ hq…usually during rifle hunts. Last time I checked them out there were 30-40 displayed….just an estimate, as I didn’t count. Going down the line I was mentally registering the brand names. “Montec, Montec, Rocky Mtn, Montec, Montec, Montec, Rage, Montec….geez, what’s going on? Montec, Rage, Muzzy Wasp, Wasp, Montec, Montec…”

Did not see any Slick Tricks nor did I see any Exodus. Hardly scientific analysis I know, but seeing all the caved in Montec’s peaked my interest. Caved in like they had struck a cast iron anvil.

I, obviously, never recovered the head. So I can't guarantee it didn't cave or crumple. But, I am certain they were USA-made heads.

I ran the first one I shot behind the shoulder of a nearly broadside 8-pointer. Worked just as expected. But, even before the failure on the next buck.......... I looked at the way the blades on the Montec form the point and something just didn't sit right with me. Like there was some quality there that wouldn't work well on a hard quartering shot. Lo and behold...............


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Originally Posted by Yoder409
Originally Posted by Godogs57
Originally Posted by Yoder409
Originally Posted by Windknot
I've got some Montec I've had a while but never hunted yet. Believe I'll go with them, no doubt a CoC head is all around best!

Just anecdotal advice.......... But I had a Montec fail to penetrate on a (hard) quartering away shot on a GOOD whitetail at about 15 yards one time. Placed the shot about one rib from the back. Shoulda exited the far armpit. Instead........the arrow ran under the hide but outside the ribcage and the head lodged in the near armpit. It's a shot I've made several times with various other heads............Steelforce.........the old Razorbak 5........... Rocky Mt............

I quit shooting the Montecs right then and there.

Funny you should say that. One of the ranches I elk hunt on has a mantle over one of their fireplaces that is dedicated to displaying failed broadheads found in elk that are skinned and quartered @ hq…usually during rifle hunts. Last time I checked them out there were 30-40 displayed….just an estimate, as I didn’t count. Going down the line I was mentally registering the brand names. “Montec, Montec, Rocky Mtn, Montec, Montec, Montec, Rage, Montec….geez, what’s going on? Montec, Rage, Muzzy Wasp, Wasp, Montec, Montec…”

Did not see any Slick Tricks nor did I see any Exodus. Hardly scientific analysis I know, but seeing all the caved in Montec’s peaked my interest. Caved in like they had struck a cast iron anvil.

I, obviously, never recovered the head. So I can't guarantee it didn't cave or crumple. But, I am certain they were USA-made heads.

I ran the first one I shot behind the shoulder of a nearly broadside 8-pointer. Worked just as expected. But, even before the failure on the next buck.......... I looked at the way the blades on the Montec form the point and something just didn't sit right with me. Like there was some quality there that wouldn't work well on a hard quartering shot. Lo and behold...............

Unless you’re a sponsored pro, I don’t know but two,three guys that shoot a Montec anymore.


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Currently I am using VPA three blade with my recurves, compounds and xbow. They get nice and sharp and stay that way easily.
See no reason to change.


Muzzy 100/125 was a go-to for years. Started out a long time ago with WASP's with super high profile blades. Made BIG holes.

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Originally Posted by Godogs57
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Originally Posted by Godogs57
Originally Posted by Yoder409
Originally Posted by Windknot
I've got some Montec I've had a while but never hunted yet. Believe I'll go with them, no doubt a CoC head is all around best!

Just anecdotal advice.......... But I had a Montec fail to penetrate on a (hard) quartering away shot on a GOOD whitetail at about 15 yards one time. Placed the shot about one rib from the back. Shoulda exited the far armpit. Instead........the arrow ran under the hide but outside the ribcage and the head lodged in the near armpit. It's a shot I've made several times with various other heads............Steelforce.........the old Razorbak 5........... Rocky Mt............

I quit shooting the Montecs right then and there.

Funny you should say that. One of the ranches I elk hunt on has a mantle over one of their fireplaces that is dedicated to displaying failed broadheads found in elk that are skinned and quartered @ hq…usually during rifle hunts. Last time I checked them out there were 30-40 displayed….just an estimate, as I didn’t count. Going down the line I was mentally registering the brand names. “Montec, Montec, Rocky Mtn, Montec, Montec, Montec, Rage, Montec….geez, what’s going on? Montec, Rage, Muzzy Wasp, Wasp, Montec, Montec…”

Did not see any Slick Tricks nor did I see any Exodus. Hardly scientific analysis I know, but seeing all the caved in Montec’s peaked my interest. Caved in like they had struck a cast iron anvil.

I, obviously, never recovered the head. So I can't guarantee it didn't cave or crumple. But, I am certain they were USA-made heads.

I ran the first one I shot behind the shoulder of a nearly broadside 8-pointer. Worked just as expected. But, even before the failure on the next buck.......... I looked at the way the blades on the Montec form the point and something just didn't sit right with me. Like there was some quality there that wouldn't work well on a hard quartering shot. Lo and behold...............

Unless you’re a sponsored pro, I don’t know but two,three guys that shoot a Montec anymore.

When they hit the market I loved the idea. And they flew like freakin' field points !!! But there's just something about the design geometry that started to bug me before I had my failure............

Apparently I'm not alone.


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Originally Posted by Yoder409
Originally Posted by Godogs57
Originally Posted by Yoder409
Originally Posted by Godogs57
Originally Posted by Yoder409
Originally Posted by Windknot
I've got some Montec I've had a while but never hunted yet. Believe I'll go with them, no doubt a CoC head is all around best!

Just anecdotal advice.......... But I had a Montec fail to penetrate on a (hard) quartering away shot on a GOOD whitetail at about 15 yards one time. Placed the shot about one rib from the back. Shoulda exited the far armpit. Instead........the arrow ran under the hide but outside the ribcage and the head lodged in the near armpit. It's a shot I've made several times with various other heads............Steelforce.........the old Razorbak 5........... Rocky Mt............

I quit shooting the Montecs right then and there.

Funny you should say that. One of the ranches I elk hunt on has a mantle over one of their fireplaces that is dedicated to displaying failed broadheads found in elk that are skinned and quartered @ hq…usually during rifle hunts. Last time I checked them out there were 30-40 displayed….just an estimate, as I didn’t count. Going down the line I was mentally registering the brand names. “Montec, Montec, Rocky Mtn, Montec, Montec, Montec, Rage, Montec….geez, what’s going on? Montec, Rage, Muzzy Wasp, Wasp, Montec, Montec…”

Did not see any Slick Tricks nor did I see any Exodus. Hardly scientific analysis I know, but seeing all the caved in Montec’s peaked my interest. Caved in like they had struck a cast iron anvil.

I, obviously, never recovered the head. So I can't guarantee it didn't cave or crumple. But, I am certain they were USA-made heads.

I ran the first one I shot behind the shoulder of a nearly broadside 8-pointer. Worked just as expected. But, even before the failure on the next buck.......... I looked at the way the blades on the Montec form the point and something just didn't sit right with me. Like there was some quality there that wouldn't work well on a hard quartering shot. Lo and behold...............

Unless you’re a sponsored pro, I don’t know but two,three guys that shoot a Montec anymore.

When they hit the market I loved the idea. And they flew like freakin' field points !!! But there's just something about the design geometry that started to bug me before I had my failure............

Apparently I'm not alone.

IMHO - you’re not.

I agree - with a good tuned bow, they followed the field point POI very well.

But, if the blade sharpening changed any of the surfaces, a Montec would start to wander away from the rest of the group. I started numbering arrows to make sure it wasn’t me.

I dinged a number of blades in practice, and that usually meant the head was done, as taking the blade back an edge usually affected the flight as well.

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Originally Posted by MOGC
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Originally Posted by MOGC
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QAD Exodus. Really like how well it flies. Very durable and has been deadly

My son and I both shoot the QAD Exodus and love the things. They are easy to tune for, fly like a bullet, penetrate and kill extremely well. We have about three dozen kills and have no complaints with the Exodus.

Old bow Bud of mine that keeps a hard eye on all things archery told me about them more than 4 years ago, pointed me to a utube video of QAD owner shooting through a lot of heavy game in Africa, plenty good enough for me, it's a damn tough, straight flying, deep penetrating head.

One other thing I have noticed about the Exodus is that they are quiet in flight. Some broadheads make a lot of noise going downrange. Not the Exodus. I have stood behind my house where I am completely protected yet can hear a broadhead as my son shot past the house to a target down range. The way my yard lays out he can be shooting at 30, 40, 50 yards to a target and I can stand protected behind the corner of the house 20 yards from the target. In that way I can listen for the arrow coming from 10-30 yards away. It's shocking how loud some broadheads are.


It's a damn small world, i put Wife at the corner of the house behind the bricks, had her looking at my broadhead target, told her when she heard me fire would she have time to move, said she didnt hear anything but the arrow striking the target, and this was 40 yards away, good stuff man.


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Muzzy 100gr here.

For years I used Zwickey Deltas (later Eskimo) with aluminum-swaged arrows.


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I've used dozens of different brands over the past many decades. I switched to Slick Tricks about 15 (?) years ago and found them so much easier to tune than others that I never tried anything else. I open to trying others; but, testing multiple different brands has become so expensive I just haven't found the need or desire to try others. That is why threads like this can be so helpful.


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I’ve used many different broad heads over the last 28 years:

Bear Razorhead
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Grizlystik Maasai Single Bevel

All were screwed onto an arrow that weighed more than five hundred grains, mostly propelled by a 55-65# recurve bow. I used the Silver Flame XL out of my 70# Mathews this Spring, resulted in a dead bird after about three steps.

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Muzzy 100gr here.

For years I used Zwickey Deltas (later Eskimo) with aluminum-swaged arrows.

still my all time favorite broadhead Zwickeys ! matter fact a purchased a slower x-bow so i could still use Zwickey Broadheads , my last deer i shot with a bow when i still could draw the bow 4 years ago i shot a huge old 8 pt. shot a Zickey Eskimo broadhead in DECEMBER 10 below that day and had just talked to the owner of Zwickey broadheads the same week and now he is gone . but i did learn some history of the Zwickey factory like Fred Bear did at one time also shot Zwickey broadheads before he made his own brand Bear broadhead.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
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QAD Exodus. Really like how well it flies. Very durable and has been deadly

My son and I both shoot the QAD Exodus and love the things. They are easy to tune for, fly like a bullet, penetrate and kill extremely well. We have about three dozen kills and have no complaints with the Exodus.

Old bow Bud of mine that keeps a hard eye on all things archery told me about them more than 4 years ago, pointed me to a utube video of QAD owner shooting through a lot of heavy game in Africa, plenty good enough for me, it's a damn tough, straight flying, deep penetrating head.

One other thing I have noticed about the Exodus is that they are quiet in flight. Some broadheads make a lot of noise going downrange. Not the Exodus. I have stood behind my house where I am completely protected yet can hear a broadhead as my son shot past the house to a target down range. The way my yard lays out he can be shooting at 30, 40, 50 yards to a target and I can stand protected behind the corner of the house 20 yards from the target. In that way I can listen for the arrow coming from 10-30 yards away. It's shocking how loud some broadheads are.


It's a damn small world, i put Wife at the corner of the house behind the bricks, had her looking at my broadhead target, told her when she heard me fire would she have time to move, said she didnt hear anything but the arrow striking the target, and this was 40 yards away, good stuff man.
We’ve got the same setup at my house out to 70 yards. Our main target is alongside a monster oak tree five yards in front of that target. You can stand , facing the target, shooter to your back, and listen for the arrow. It’s amazing how noisy some broadheads are….easy to hear in time to jump if you needed to. A deer’s senses and reflexes are about eleventy hundred times faster obviously so it’s no wonder how they are able to jump the string.


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