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Originally Posted by SamOlson
I was just pricing out random internet 1000 gallon single wall diesel tanks.

$3k.


I'm sure they'll be $4500 here locally from the co-op....

But if diesel were to go up a dollar or two, or god forbid a shortage, a tank would be good.



We're so close to town that bulk fuel storage has never been an issue. But I want a tank.


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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[bleep] THE DIRTY ROTTEN FUSKING DEMOCRATS AND EVERY STUPID MOTHER [bleep] THAT VOTED FOR THEM!!!



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It was breadlines and a starving population which brought about the dissolution of the USSR.

Same might be said of the French Revolution, though I am no expert on French History.

While hunger has long been used as a weapon, it seldom results in unification of "The People" behind the standing gov't which brought it about.

As Yamamoto declared, "I am afraid we have only just awakened a sleeping giant." So shall the Socialists learn when American parents start hearing their children cry from hunger.

But hey, there's a bright side. Real starvation in America will cure our excess immigration problem. People will be moving South by the multitudes.


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Not a big operator. Going to buy hay instead of growing it so I don't have to buy fertilizer. The hay sellers will deplete their soil this year and still sell at a loss. Going to bush hog only as much as I have to to keep down tree sprouts and keep enough grass tender and nutrients up. If cow poop starts piling up the grass is too coarse and has to be cut back. Fertilizer cost is going to cut production this year world wide unless some governments take over and make the taxpayers foot the bill.

There are food shortages and huge price increases ahead. Gas and beef will be stolen in amounts unheard of until now.


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There are food shortages and huge price increases ahead. Gas and beef will be stolen in amounts unheard of until now.[/quote]


I have had to spend more time in town than usual the past few days running errands. Glock 23 vs my Kahr PM 9. Head on a swivel. I put some extra effort into being polite and asked some folks how they were doing.... They are stressed. I paid 38.00 for a plastic 5 gallon gas can... it was the last one in stock.

We have a good supply of beans and rice. 4 different kinds of hot sauce at the moment.... I'd like to expand that selection to keep things interesting.

I'm pretty sure this isn't a drill.


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I saw a guy selling baby formula out of the bed of a pickup in Mena, Arkansas today.


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I'm rather non liberal minded however most of my clients tend to be Biden supporters and even voted for him! I'm a farrier and I have to say it was somewhat satisfying when I raised there price $25 more per horse! This is costing them!!! Not ME!!! I informed them that my price will be going up accordingly to the price of fuel, supplies and food!

I also told them that build back better should be kicking in any day now so they shouldn't worry! For some reason they looked worried


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Originally Posted by Marshhawk
[bleep] THE DIRTY ROTTEN FUSKING DEMOCRATS AND EVERY STUPID MOTHER [bleep] THAT VOTED FOR THEM!!!
PREACH IT brother!!!!!


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I've got to wonder why nobody is going after the big oil companies for price gouging and price fixing? Shell Oil just posted a 9.1 billion dollar profit for the first quarter of 2022 which was their highest profit ever! That was three times their typical quarterly profit margin in 2021. Okay some simple math. A barrel of crude oil was $120. on 6/21/22 and gas in these parts is $4.60 a gallon. Back a year or two back oil was hovering around $90.00 a barrel and gasoline was what $2.00 a gallon? A $30.00 increase of a barrel of oil is roughly 1/3 more. A 1/3 increase in oil should equal a $2.60 price of gasoline, not $4.60. I know that California has different formulated gasoline than the rest of the country, but you can't tell me that it costs an oil refinery double.


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Geez Dude your Dense..
You do know if your Government steps in the way of Production it going to cause scarcity which drives up Price ..
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Originally Posted by Windfall
I've got to wonder why nobody is going after the big oil companies for price gouging and price fixing? Shell Oil just posted a 9.1 billion dollar profit for the first quarter of 2022 which was their highest profit ever! That was three times their typical quarterly profit margin in 2021. Okay some simple math. A barrel of crude oil was $120. on 6/21/22 and gas in these parts is $4.60 a gallon. Back a year or two back oil was hovering around $90.00 a barrel and gasoline was what $2.00 a gallon? A $30.00 increase of a barrel of oil is roughly 1/3 more. A 1/3 increase in oil should equal a $2.60 price of gasoline, not $4.60. I know that California has different formulated gasoline than the rest of the country, but you can't tell me that it costs an oil refinery double.

Oh boy falling for the good democrat narrative, its the oil companies gouging us. You dumb twat 2 yrs ago ie 2020 west Texas crude was selling for -$38 a barrel that's a negative you dumb ass. Oil was nowhere near $90 bucks two yrs ago, or a year ago. Ph uck you are what's wrong with this country.

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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Also close of December 2021 oil closed out at $78 a barrel. Then you had OPEC cutting oil production at the beginning of this year. They were pumping so much oil in the United States 2-3yrs ago Saudi Arabia was pumping so much oil trying to undercut U.S production and selling it at $10 dollars a barrel. It's funny how some of the retards on this forum forget all this.


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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That's what I asked, mustard, mustard?


Yep.

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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Oil companies are making huge profits right now. A lot of people complaining about it but forget that just over 2 yrs. ago I payed 96 cents a gallon and 52 cents was tax. I did a lot of driving that summer. This summer, not so much. I have never been this concerned since Obama won the 1st election. There is something terribly wrong , to the point that it has to be being done on purpose. If the government can create a shortage, they get to pick who gets to eat, and that won't be the conservatives, the gun owners or the christians.


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WTF has that got to do with the OP Topic??!?!?!!!! You deserve a laurel & hearty handshake
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https://apnews.com/article/climate-...-states-a629da4d72fa94d75f6668acd5a04bf3

Study finds cleaner air leads to more Atlantic hurricanes
By SETH BORENSTEIN
May 11, 2022

Cleaner air in United States and Europe is brewing more Atlantic hurricanes, a new U.S. government study found.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration study links changes in regionalized air pollution across the globe to storm activity going both up and down. A 50% decrease in pollution particles and droplets in Europe and the U.S. is linked to a 33% increase in Atlantic storm formation in the past couple decades, while the opposite is happening in the Pacific with more pollution and fewer typhoons, according to the study published in Wednesday’s Science Advances.

NOAA hurricane scientist Hiroyuki Murakami ran numerous climate computer simulations to explain change in storm activity in different parts of the globe that can’t be explained by natural climate cycles and found a link to aerosol pollution from industry and cars — sulfur particles and droplets in the air that make it hard to breathe and see.

Scientists had long known that aerosol pollution cools the air, at times reducing the larger effects of greenhouse gases from the burning of fossil fuel and earlier studies mentioned it as a possibility in increase in Atlantic storms, but Murakami found it a factor around the world and a more direct link.

Hurricanes need warm water — which is warmed by the air — for fuel and are harmed by wind shear, which changes in upper level winds that can decapitate storm tops. Cleaner air in the Atlantic and dirtier air in the Pacific, from pollution in China and India, mess with both of those, Murakami said.

In the Atlantic, aerosol pollution peaked around 1980 and has been dropping steadily since. That means the cooling that masked some of the greenhouse gas warming is going away, so sea surface temperatures are increasing even more, Murakami said. On top of that the lack of cooling aerosols has helped push the jet stream — the river of air that moves weather from west to east on a roller-coaster like path — further north, reducing the shear that had been dampening hurricane formation.

“That’s why the Atlantic has gone pretty much crazy since the mid-90s and why it was so quiet in the 70s and 80s,” said climate and hurricane scientist Jim Kossin of the risk firm The Climate Service. He wasn’t part of the study but said it makes sense. The aerosol pollution “gave a lot of people in the 70s and 80s a break, but we’re all paying for it now.”

There are other factors in tropical cyclone activity with La Nina and El Nino — natural fluctuations in equatorial Pacific temperatures that alter climate worldwide — being huge. Human-caused climate change from greenhouse gases, that will grow as aerosol pollution reductions level out, is another, and there other natural long-term climatic oscillations, Murakami said.

Climate change from greenhouse gases is expected to reduce the overall number of storms slightly, but increase the number and strength of the most intense hurricanes, make them wetter and increase storm surge flooding, Murakami, Kossin and other scientists said.

While aerosol cooling is maybe half to one-third smaller than the warming from greenhouse gases, it is about twice as effective in reducing tropical cyclone intensity compared to warming increasing it, said Columbia University climate scientist Adam Sobel, who wasn’t part of the study. As aerosol pollution stays at low levels in the Atlantic and greenhouse gas emissions grow, climate change’s impact on storms will increase in the future and become more prominent, Murakami said.

In the Pacific, aerosol pollution from Asian nations has gone up 50% from 1980 to 2010 and is starting to drop now. Tropical cyclone formation from 2001 to 2020 is 14% lower than 1980 to 2000, Murakami said.

Murakami also found a correlation that was a bit different heading south. A drop in European and American aerosol pollution changed global air patterns in a way that it meant a decrease in southern hemisphere storms around Australia.

But as much as more hurricanes in the Atlantic can be a problem, the death from extra storms don’t compare to the seven million people a year globally who die from air pollution, said University of Washington public health professor Kristie Ebi, who studies health, climate and extreme weather.

“Air pollution is a major killer, so reducing emissions is critical no matter what happens with the number of cyclones,” said Ebi, who wasn’t part of the study.
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Extreme Storms May Protect Beaches Against Sea-level Rise
May 17, 2022

SYDNEY, New South Wales, Australia, May 17, 2022 (ENS) – Climate change is making storms more intense and destructive, but the impact of extreme storms is not wholly negative, an international team of researchers has learned. Sand movements stirred up by extreme weather events could help protect beaches from the impact of sea-level rise by bringing in new sand from deeper waters or from nearby beaches.

Published in the journal “Nature Communications Earth & Environment,” the research study, “A single extreme storm sequence can offset decades of shoreline retreat projected to result from sea-level rise,” was led by the University of New South Wales in collaboration with researchers from the University of Plymouth in the UK, and Autonomous University of Baja California.

The scientists examined three coastlines across Australia, the United Kingdom and Mexico. Each coastline had been subjected to a sequence of extreme storms or extended storm clusters, followed by a milder period of beach recovery.

Australia: Narrabeen Beach

Meanwhile in Australia, researchers studied Narrabeen Beach in Sydney in the wake of a 2016 storm so strong that it tore a swimming pool away from a property overlooking the coast.

Using high-resolution measurements of the beach and seabed, they were able to show that sediment gains at Narrabeen were sufficient to theoretically offset decades of projected shoreline retreat.

Narrabeen is as well known for its top status in Australian surfing culture as it is for rising sea levels due to climate change.

No beach in Australia has been studied more by scientists and fought over by homeowners, beach users and politicians than Narrabeen.

At 2.6km, Narrabeen is Sydney’s second-longest stretch of sand and surf, and it is classified as the beach at greatest risk beach from erosion in New South Wales and the third most at-risk in Australia.

In the published study, the researchers explain that there are so few measurements of the seabeds immediately off of coastlines that it is hard to tell how much sand could potentially be mobilized in the future.

Still, they believe that while these findings are from only a limited number of extreme storm sequences, they potentially change how people can understand the long-term future of coastlines in a warming world.

Dr. Mitchell Harley, senior lecturer from University of New South Wales’ Water Research Laboratory and the study’s lead author, said, “We know that extreme storms cause major coastal erosion and damage to beachfront properties. For the first time we looked not just above water, where the impacts of extreme storms are easy to see, but also deep down below it as well.”

“What we found was that hundreds of thousands of cubic metres of sand were entering these beach systems during these events. That’s similar to the scale of what engineers use to nourish a beach artificially,” he said.

“This could potentially be enough to offset some of the impacts of sea-level rises caused by climate change, such as retreating coastlines, and by several decades in the long-term,” Harley said. “It’s a new way of looking at extreme storms.”

England: Perranporth Beach

In the UK, researchers have studied Perranporth beach in Cornwall, England since 2006, using a combination of monthly beach topographic surveys and quasi-annual bathymetric surveys.

Here, the impact of the extreme 2013/14 and 2015/16 winters resulted in what the researchers called “very significant losses of sand” from the intertidal beach and dune system. However, when looking at the total sand budget, including the underwater part of the beach, they observed that by 2018 the beach had gained 420,000 cubic meters of sand.

Professor Gerd Masselink, who leads the Coastal Processes Research Group at the University of Plymouth, said, “Looking at the extra sand gained by the beach at Perranporth, we are not quite sure whether this has come from offshore or from around the corner, or even both. However, we do now understand that extreme waves can potentially contribute positively to the overall sand budget, despite causing upper beach and dune erosion.”

“We have previously shown that coral reef islands could naturally adapt to survive the impact of rising sea levels,” Masselink said, “and this study shows the changes to our own coastlines could mean the impact of extreme storms are not wholly negative.”

Mexico: La Misión Beach

At La Misión Beach on the Pacific coast of northwest Mexico, a sequence of extratropical storms concentrated over the 2018-2019 boreal winter caused the most severe winter erosion (average = 208 m3/m) since measurements at the site began.

A 2.2-kilometer stretch of this sandy coast has been scientifically monitored monthly since 2015.

Amaia Ruiz de Alegría-Arzaburu, an oceanographer with the Autonomous University of Baja California’s Institute of Oceanological Research, in nearby Ensenada, Mexico, leads the research group at La Mision Beach.

With deep roots in this research group, Dr. Alegria-Arzburu completed her doctorate in oceanography at the University of Plymouth in 2010.

Her research focuses on determining the physical processes associated with the morphodynamics of beaches, based on measurements of hydrodynamics and sediment transport and the application of numerical tools. Her main interest is to determine the resilience of beaches at the scale of storm events, seasons and inter-annual variations.

Predicting Future Shoreline Patterns

Hurricanes have become stronger worldwide since 1980, and the proportion of major hurricanes, Category 3 or above, in the Atlantic Ocean has doubled since 1980 an analysis of satellite data shows.

“The trend is there and it is real,” said James Kossin, a researcher with the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NOAA, and lead author of the hurricane study, published in May 2020 in the journal “Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.” The researchers suggest that the most damaging U.S. hurricanes are three times more frequent than 100 years ago.

For instance, the extremely active 2020 Atlantic hurricane season had a record-breaking 30 named tropical storms, including 13 hurricanes and six major hurricanes. There were 12 landfalling storms in the continental United States.

This is the most storms on record, surpassing the 28 from 2005, and the second-highest number of hurricanes on record, and 2020 marked the fifth consecutive year with an above-normal Atlantic hurricane season, according to NOAA.

Overall, storm surge levels in Europe are projected to increase on average by around 15 percent by 2100 under a high-emissions scenario. European researchers found that climate change will result in higher seas not only driven by sea level rise, but also by increased storminess. Click here to see this research.

But the three-nation study of beaches in Australia, England, and Mexico found that beaches there could recover from sea level rise with the sand replenishment stirred up by extreme storms.

But can coastal recoveries be predicted with accuracy?

The study’s authors write, “Our results based on unique high-resolution field measurements over three extreme storm-recovery sequences from three different continents highlight the present major challenges of predicting long-term coastal evolution over planning horizons of decades to centuries.”

“Whereas long-term modeling approaches typically assume [that] short-term sediment losses on the subaerial beach and dune caused by extreme storm sequences are balanced by sediment gains in the subaqueous zone – resulting in zero net change in the sediment budget, our results indicate large net positive sediment gains integrated over the entire upper shoreface.”

Click here to read the full study – Harley et al: Single extreme storm sequence can offset decades of shoreline retreat projected to result from sea-level rise, in the journal “Nature Communications Earth & Environment.”

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Originally Posted by Windfall
I've got to wonder why nobody is going after the big oil companies for price gouging and price fixing? Shell Oil just posted a 9.1 billion dollar profit for the first quarter of 2022 which was their highest profit ever! That was three times their typical quarterly profit margin in 2021. Okay some simple math. A barrel of crude oil was $120. on 6/21/22 and gas in these parts is $4.60 a gallon. Back a year or two back oil was hovering around $90.00 a barrel and gasoline was what $2.00 a gallon? A $30.00 increase of a barrel of oil is roughly 1/3 more. A 1/3 increase in oil should equal a $2.60 price of gasoline, not $4.60. I know that California has different formulated gasoline than the rest of the country, but you can't tell me that it costs an oil refinery double.

We also must remember that oil companies are going to be hesitant to reinvest profits in new leases or wells knowing that the current admin is trying to put them out of business. Sure they want them to pump more but that is because of polls, not because they care about people.

In addition, they don’t know what will happen in the next 2-3 years to their industry. They have personnel and pensions to pay and they can’t be certain how much longer they’ll be able to pay them. They’re holding onto capital to see how 2022 and 24 elections go.

Also, someone correct me if I am wrong but didn’t we just close a refinery in the SE recently and haven’t built one since the 70s??

Just how I see it.

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Not to beat up on California but they actually did vote to keep their gas prices higher than the rest of the country.

I believe that vote took place in 2018.


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