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What is this HOA of which you speak? An insurance policy against this becoming your neighbor. If you're worried about what's in your neighbors's yard, your lot is too small. Yeah, 80+, rural acres is about right ! Cheers ! I'd love that...BUT. Most of the folks here know my luck. Someone would develop a gravel plant on the adjacent property. The kind where they grind big rocks into small rocks all day and night long. Either that or someone would develop a trailer park that has a bunch of meth mouths for residents. Nothing more fun than working 24/7 to keep trespassers and thieves at bay.
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Are you clean and quiet though? Brother Geno.... I am shocked to learn you are a racist..... damn never saw that coming... Didn't Biden call Barrak a clean negro? Brandon has changed quite a bit over the years, no? From an out and out racist, to the "clean negro stage" and now to the woke part. Me, having grown up near the border in the SoCal area, having worked for years in a very "diverse" workforce industry, I could GAS about what color a person's skin is. As long as they do their job..................... and if they live in my neighborhood.................... They better be clean and quiet. No fleabag baying hounds and such. And wash your vehicles.................at least once a year................whether they need it or not..............like I do. Rained here the other day...............the Tacoma might be able to go for another 3 months or so............it got a good rinse.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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What is this HOA of which you speak? An insurance policy against this becoming your neighbor. If you're worried about what's in your neighbors's yard, your lot is too small. Yeah, 80+, rural acres is about right ! Cheers ! I'd love that...BUT. Most of the folks here know my luck. Someone would develop a gravel plant on the adjacent property. The kind where they grind big rocks into small rocks all day and night long. Either that or someone would develop a trailer park that has a bunch of meth mouths for residents. Nothing more fun than working 24/7 to keep trespassers and thieves at bay. trespassers and thieves you say. I went out to feed my jays and quail this morning and notice some @%&^*)# squirrel has dug up and eaten some tulip bulbs I had scattered under some of the junipers around the house. They look nice, especially in bloom if there's a little snow on the ground. I think I dislike the squirrels more than dirty and noisy neighbors...............it's kind of a toss up though.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Just like dang near every time some legislative body passes a new law/code/ restriction, no one knows what it actually means until it's been taken to court and "interpreted" by a judge or jury. Please provides us with examples of that. Please define "no one knows what it actually means." Here's one posted here, for a start. Was there even a need for this type of court case? https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/17335261/an-elephant-isnt-a-person
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Are you clean and quiet though? Brother Geno.... I am shocked to learn you are a racist..... damn never saw that coming... Didn't Biden call Barrak a clean negro? Brandon has changed quite a bit over the years, no? From an out and out racist, to the "clean negro stage" and now to the woke part. Me, having grown up near the border in the SoCal area, having worked for years in a very "diverse" workforce industry, I could GAS about what color a person's skin is. As long as they do their job..................... and if they live in my neighborhood.................... They better be clean and quiet. No fleabag baying hounds and such. And wash your vehicles.................at least once a year................whether they need it or not..............like I do. Rained here the other day...............the Tacoma might be able to go for another 3 months or so............it got a good rinse. As a fellow member of "the great unwashed" I understand... You would think by now they would understand the racist charge is over played and ineffective... but noooo...
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Well, at least I didn't ask about letting them damn Eskimos into the hood.
Talk about unwashed.
An' alla them dirt bikes are anything but quiet.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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What is this HOA of which you speak? HOA: Home Owners Association.
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I'm not in an HOA. My house and the land that it sits on is paid for. I don't need some HOA telling me what to do. I don't understand why people would surrender their property rights. We already have the government sticking its nose in our bussiness.
Sheeple just love giving up their rights for a false sense of security.
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Bend over the barrel and hope that HOA Karen uses some K-Y jelly when she sticks her 14 inch strap-on in all the way!
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A ridiculous case about an elephant does not mean that all laws are unintelligibly vague until every word therein has been parsed in a binding court precedent. Your proffered exception does not invalidate the rule.
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A ridiculous case about an elephant does not mean that all laws are unintelligibly vague until every word therein has been parsed in a binding court precedent. Your proffered exception does not invalidate the rule. Please show me where/when I said " all laws are unintelligibly vague ".
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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I'm not in an HOA. My house and the land that it sits on is paid for. I don't need some HOA telling me what to do. I don't understand why people would surrender their property rights. We already have the government sticking its nose in our bussiness.
Sheeple just love giving up their rights for a false sense of security. Let me provide a different perspective. I love having room to roam...hike and bicycle. I love fishing. I love not having to worry about theft/break-ins. I love being surrounded by nature. I wish I could afford to buy a place that offered me all of that. I can't. I bought 3 acres on a lake in an HOA community. The community offers over 17 miles of hiking and biking trails. It has 4 community lakes. A creek with a waterfall flows through the middle of the community. The average lot size is over 4 acres. There are nearly 1000 acres of community property at my disposal. My road is private and it's gated. I have access to a clubhouse for family reunions etc. My agreement with the community is pretty straightforward simple and non-burdensome. I have to build a house of at least 1400 square feet. I can't have livestock, which I wouldn't have had anyway...other than maybe some laying hens. I have to maintain my property to certain standards which I would do anyway. I can't tie a barking dog to a tree in my yard. I can't hunt in the community. There are other very reasonable restrictions that won't affect me at all. I have assurances that my neighbors property won't be an eyesore and that they can't create a bunch of noise that breaches the peace of the community. The bottom line is that I get way more than I am giving up, and I am doing it on a modest budget. In other words, what I am surrendering in "property rights" pales in comparison to what I get in return for agreeing to very simple covenants.
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I'm not in an HOA. My house and the land that it sits on is paid for. I don't need some HOA telling me what to do. I don't understand why people would surrender their property rights. We already have the government sticking its nose in our bussiness.
Sheeple just love giving up their rights for a false sense of security. I don't live in an HOA but remember the HOA's exists BEFORE folks buy in. They know the RULES before moving there. If buyers don't like the HOA its real simple not to buy that piece of property. This thread has a lot of internet tough guys chest thumping over something that is no big deal.
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I'm not in an HOA. My house and the land that it sits on is paid for. I don't need some HOA telling me what to do. I don't understand why people would surrender their property rights. We already have the government sticking its nose in our bussiness.
Sheeple just love giving up their rights for a false sense of security. I don't live in an HOA but remember the HOA's exists BEFORE folks buy in. They know the RULES before moving there. If buyers don't like the HOA its real simple not to buy that piece of property. This thread has a lot of internet tough guys chest thumping over something that is no big deal. Exactly. Before I bought my house the first question I asked is if their is an HOA. If their was I would not have bought the place.
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I'm not in an HOA. My house and the land that it sits on is paid for. I don't need some HOA telling me what to do. I don't understand why people would surrender their property rights. We already have the government sticking its nose in our bussiness.
Sheeple just love giving up their rights for a false sense of security. I don't live in an HOA but remember the HOA's exists BEFORE folks buy in. They know the RULES before moving there. If buyers don't like the HOA its real simple not to buy that piece of property. This thread has a lot of internet tough guys chest thumping over something that is no big deal. Did you read Hudge's post back on page one or two? The problem with, let's use the "some" word, HOA's is that the Rules might change, aren't clearly written, and can be seen by many as ridiculously petty.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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A ridiculous case about an elephant does not mean that all laws are unintelligibly vague until every word therein has been parsed in a binding court precedent. Your proffered exception does not invalidate the rule. Wait until the HOA or a resident pulls hinky schit... then lawyers get involved and the fun begins... saying it doesn't happen is a lie. Happened twice in 4 yrs in my 9 lot HOA and once previous before we separated from a larger HOA.... lawyers love it. I had countless phone conversations/emails and several sit down visits with lawyers over this crap. If I wasn't so stubborn I would have sold and moved, several did. I stayed and fought and won.... HOA is gone. Crazy part is it actually improves my property value. Not being in an HOA is a huge selling point around these parts now.
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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I'm not in an HOA. My house and the land that it sits on is paid for. I don't need some HOA telling me what to do. I don't understand why people would surrender their property rights. We already have the government sticking its nose in our bussiness.
Sheeple just love giving up their rights for a false sense of security. Let me provide a different perspective. I love having room to roam...hike and bicycle. I love fishing. I love not having to worry about theft/break-ins. I love being surrounded by nature. I wish I could afford to buy a place that offered me all of that. I can't. I bought 3 acres on a lake in an HOA community. The community offers over 17 miles of hiking and biking trails. It has 4 community lakes. A creek with a waterfall flows through the middle of the community. The average lot size is over 4 acres. There are nearly 1000 acres of community property at my disposal. My road is private and it's gated. I have access to a clubhouse for family reunions etc. My agreement with the community is pretty straightforward simple and non-burdensome. I have to build a house of at least 1400 square feet. I can't have livestock, which I wouldn't have had anyway...other than maybe some laying hens. I have to maintain my property to certain standards which I would do anyway. I can't tie a barking dog to a tree in my yard. I can't hunt in the community. There are other very reasonable restrictions that won't affect me at all. I have assurances that my neighbors property won't be an eyesore and that they can't create a bunch of noise that breaches the peace of the community. The bottom line is that I get way more than I am giving up, and I am doing it on a modest budget. In other words, what I am surrendering in "property rights" pales in comparison to what I get in return for agreeing to very simple covenants. Happy for you and hope that all works out. I just can't live with that many "rules" They probably wouldn't approve of the chicken Gulag there, and I'm too poor to afford a fancy hen house that meets some folks standards of decorum.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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I'm not in an HOA. My house and the land that it sits on is paid for. I don't need some HOA telling me what to do. I don't understand why people would surrender their property rights. We already have the government sticking its nose in our bussiness.
Sheeple just love giving up their rights for a false sense of security. I don't live in an HOA but remember the HOA's exists BEFORE folks buy in. They know the RULES before moving there. If buyers don't like the HOA its real simple not to buy that piece of property. This thread has a lot of internet tough guys chest thumping over something that is no big deal. Exactly. Before I bought my house the first question I asked is if their is an HOA. If their was I would not have bought the place. This is bullshit! People interpret the rules different.... then lawsuits, lawyers and courts get involved... over different interpretation plainly worded of rules
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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A ridiculous case about an elephant does not mean that all laws are unintelligibly vague until every word therein has been parsed in a binding court precedent. Your proffered exception does not invalidate the rule. Wait until the HOA or a resident pulls hinky schit... then lawyers get involved and the fun begins... saying it doesn't happen is a lie. Happened twice in 4 yrs in my 9 lot HOA and once previous before we separated from a larger HOA.... lawyers love it. I had countless phone conversations/emails and several sit down visits with lawyers over this crap. If I wasn't so stubborn I would have sold and moved, several did. I stayed and fought and won.... HOA is gone. Crazy part is it actually improves my property value. Not being in an HOA is a huge selling point around these parts now. Well.......................duh..............right? Glad you had the will and financial resources to fight the bastids and that those that left had the resources to make the move. Some folks don't after investing in a home only find out there's "hinky schit" (as you rightly refer to it) later down the road. Then they're screwed. I might like a fella like you in my hood.
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