By the way, I doubt that Wyatt Earp's skills with a single action revolver were anything outstanding. He was likely a competent shot with them, but what set him apart was mainly his steely nerves in a gun fight.
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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
By the way, I doubt that Wyatt Earp's skills with a single action revolver were anything outstanding. He was likely a competent shot with them, but what set him apart was mainly his steely nerves in a gun fight.
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Have I said something to offend you lately, Deflave? I'm sensing subtle hostility.
By the way, I doubt that Wyatt Earp's skills with a single action revolver were anything outstanding. He was likely a competent shot with them, but what set him apart was mainly his steely nerves in a gun fight.
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Have I said something to offend you lately, Deflave? I'm sensing subtle hostility.
Offended? No.
Stupid? Yes.
Your handgun IQ should be higher than it is.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
A semi auto 10mm just has to be a part of everyone's protection no matter what, because even if your big bore rifle or handgun didn't do their job during the initial attack, then you can still empty the 15 round mag into the bear with a one handed grip while it's trying to claw and bite you body parts.... you surely couldn't miss at that close range. You can do a lot of shooting during those seconds of remaining life. If those 15 rounds didn't stop it... then you could simply say... Yes, Lord, I did my best... here I come.
I seem to remember a similar sled test for PH's in Africa? Might have just been someone else's test like this but with big bore rifles. Dunno.
As to what's faster, I'm not an AK resident or visitor (as much as I'd like to be) - I doubt I'll ever have to know.
The fact he is, at the least, trying things out - thinking, practicing - likely a ton more than most will ever do so there's that. Interesting video. We once did something similar but left to right with a deer cut out - see which of those who claim "hit that deer running at 150 yards" could do so at 50. Not many did, certainly not a vitals hit. That was safe.
No expert on bears but I'd be curious to know from others - say you do hit the bear with shot one, it's not CNS - what are the odds it keeps coming? I hunted black bear, tracked in the bush and come across it not yet dead. When I shot again - it moved away from gunfire and not towards it. Would grizz just go head down and ignore or would they likely turn? I don't know. How committed are they to the attack -on average?
I seem to remember a similar sled test for PH's in Africa? Might have just been someone else's test like this but with big bore rifles. Dunno.
As to what's faster, I'm not an AK resident or visitor (as much as I'd like to be) - I doubt I'll ever have to know.
The fact he is, at the least, trying things out - thinking, practicing - likely a ton more than most will ever do so there's that. Interesting video. We once did something similar but left to right with a deer cut out - see which of those who claim "hit that deer running at 150 yards" could do so at 50. Not many did, certainly not a vitals hit. That was safe.
No expert on bears but I'd be curious to know from others - say you do hit the bear with shot one, it's not CNS - what are the odds it keeps coming? I hunted black bear, tracked in the bush and come across it not yet dead. When I shot again - it moved away from gunfire and not towards it. Would grizz just go head down and ignore or would they likely turn? I don't know. How committed are they to the attack -on average?
Grizzly bears usually react to being hit, but recover from that reaction extremely fast. Notice that the 900 pound grizzly that Phil Shoemaker killed with a 9mm reacted to every shot fired into him.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
Grizzly bears usually react to being hit, but recover from that reaction extremely fast. Notice that the 900 pound grizzly that Phil Shoemaker killed with a 9mm reacted to every shot fired into him.[/quote]
Yes the reaction may give you a pause for better shot placement
kk alaska
Alaska 7 months of winter then 5 months of tourists
I'm going to get a Glock 20 10mm... 15 rounds and the safety is quickly disengaged with the trigger pull. The safety being in the trigger is what sold me. I sure didn't want to be fumbling with a safety during a panic attack.
Here is Allen again with his charging bear and Desert Eagle Buddy.
The claim was made in good faith. There was no response. I and colleagues started searching for cases where the use of pistols, as a defense against bears, was not successful. They were very difficult to find. There was a large amount of fantasy, myth, and conjecture, but little-documented fact.
Sixteen months later, in 2018, I published the first of this series. We found one failure out of 37 documented cases. That translated to a 97% success rate. Three years later, we have found two more failures, out of 104 documented cases. The success rate remains at 97%.
Problems of access to defensive tools against bears are similar to pistols or handguns, long guns, edged weapons, bear spray, or air horns.
Only cases where the pistol was actually fired are included. If the study were about bear spray, only cases where bear spray was actually sprayed would be included.
We include every case where a pistol was fired in a defensive action against a bear, which we can document. We look for names, dates, and locations. The provenance of the information is included in each case. Most cases have links to Internet sources. Some are referenced to books or other print publications. A few are from direct interviews of the people involved.
I think the G20 makes a lot of sense for general defense against bears. Bear hunting I would and have used .45 Long Colt/350gr WLN.
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
I don't care, just poking, but does it use a clip or a magazine.
Ummm, neither. It's a revolver round.
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