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Big difference on game fellas? Are there game or classes of game you would not take with a 357 but happily take with the 44.

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I've had multiple 44 carbines and would like to have a 357 carbine. I'd use 357 on White tail. I don't think I'd use it on anything bigger. In a pinch I'd use 44 on elk, but I have better cartridges for that in my opinion.


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I have a .44, but have owned several .357s. I would rather have the .357, but I don't hunt much big game with these rifles. The guy I bought the .44 from killed elk with it I am pretty sure.


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Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter
I have a .44, but have owned several .357s. I would rather have the .357, but I don't hunt much big game with these rifles. The guy I bought the .44 from killed elk with it I am pretty sure.

Yep,it worked quite well. I also killed elk with a 30-30 though.

I prefer the .357 though for what I need. I have a nice light Rossi Model 92. Rides in an antique scabbard made for 92's. Fits under the saddle fender without a bulge, and will handily take care of the camp robbing Raccoons, coyotes etc, and will sure as heck scare bear away. I would not be using it to kill one unless it is something I could not avoid.I would have no concern of hunting deer with it, if that is all I had.


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just went to gun store ,1st time since november ,WOW prices are higher than i thought.seen a USED but like new JM Marlin mod 94 .357 magnum $1,800 a 1980 like new but used Winchester -94 30-30 without box it said ,for $1,000 . 5 years ago a rifle that age and shape was only $600 dollors , i know bought it at this same store . crazy prices


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I'd go with my old Marlin 44mag, before any other handgun caliber rifle. You're already at a disadvantage with handgun calibers for hunting, why push it. That being said, I had a buddy that got a deer with an old Rossi 357mag, every year he ever took it out for the season. One shot kills, mo horror stories. Says it was his favorite 100yd and under gun.

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Proper bullet selection is key to hunting with any pistol caliber carbine. Velocities can be achieved that the pistol bullets were not designed for. Since 2008, I have tested my bullets in a plastic box filled with wet newspapers. I have seen many pistol bullets fail to penetrate deep enough for humane kills. Over expansion is usually the reason.

In the 44 Mag I like the Hornady 240gr standard XTP. It's rated for a higher than usual impact velocity. It stays together and penetrates deeply at the 1600fps velocity my carbine load produces.

In the 357 Mag, I like either the 158gr XTP-FP or the 180gr Rem SJHP. Both bullet hold up well and penetrate deeply.

Both cartridges are capable of superb killing power when the shooter can place his shots and proper bullets are used.

I prefer large calibers but that is due to my red/green colorblindness. Tracking a deer even a short distance in thick cover is a difficult task for me.


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I just got really lucky. A friend I know who's an FFL, was asked by a widow to help her sell her husbands guns. He bought a few guns from her and suggested a price for them and she asked for a lower price. The guy isn't really a rifle guy but mentioned that there was a couple of Marlin 1894's, one in 357 mag, and one in 44 mag. I would grade these both at above 90%, and neither have the safety on the receiver. I got them both for less than one typically goes for on Gunbroker. I paid extra for shipping $150 for both guns, but one came with a Leupold M8 4X scope which I would think I could get $150 for so I'm very pleased with getting them both. I had both models for years, and sold them both, and have been kicking myself ever since. I am thrilled to death with what I got.


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I've shot lots of deer with both. The 357 does the job but the 44 hits much harder. I carry the 357 more but when hunting near nasty areas (briars/swamps) I tote the 44 for the extra punch.

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I have killed elk with the 44, 240 gr XTP with no problems.I would use the.357 for deer ,but it is not legal in Colorado

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Originally Posted by Cariboujack
I just got really lucky. A friend I know who's an FFL, was asked by a widow to help her sell her husbands guns. He bought a few guns from her and suggested a price for them and she asked for a lower price. The guy isn't really a rifle guy but mentioned that there was a couple of Marlin 1894's, one in 357 mag, and one in 44 mag. I would grade these both at above 90%, and neither have the safety on the receiver. I got them both for less than one typically goes for on Gunbroker. I paid extra for shipping $150 for both guns, but one came with a Leupold M8 4X scope which I would think I could get $150 for so I'm very pleased with getting them both. I had both models for years, and sold them both, and have been kicking myself ever since. I am thrilled to death with what I got.
I also picked up a like new 1894 in 357mag (1994 model) for $500 this spring.

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If the choice is between the two, I would go with 44 mag. Velocity is going to be similar between the two for most loadings, which means similar trajectory in the sub 175yd range these are good for. 150 would probably be a safe max.

So all else being equal 44 has higher weight and surface area that will be theoretically more effective on thin skinned game.

But a 357 lever has its place. For one it has very low recoil even out of a 16" rossi for a young hunter/shooter, who won't be shooting much beyond 100 yds anyway. At a deer or smaller sized target I wouldn't care. Anything bigger, I would use something else.

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In my limited experience with deer the 44 magnum240 gr Hornady XTP out of a rifle under 50 yards has resulted in bang flops 2 out of 2 times. Highly recommend for close in hunting. Wouldn't be one bit worried on elk if I knew my shots would be under 100 yards, but you never know if it's gonna be 30 yards or 350 yards.


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I'd go with the 44 magnum, which can still be loaded light for plinking/pests but has far more mojo at full throttle.


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There is a big difference in the hitting power between the 44 and 357.

Bullet selection is not important with the 44, the 240gr JSP like a Magtech 44(a) does everything you need it to do on anything. I’ve done all of the other flavors and they just aren’t needed.

One anomaly you need to be aware of with the 44 mag unless you are using fast 180gr pills is the rifle recoil can make you move before the bullet exits the barrel so it needs to be held very steady. This accounts for many people’s claims the 44 carbine is inaccurate, especially the Ruger 77/44.

Another thing, this “loading light” or using “specials” is just crap in the sense of the point of impact between loads can drive you nuts. Find yourself a standard load the gun likes and stick with it.

A standard 240gr 44 with a 25 yard zero is +1” roughly 50&75 yards and a little over 1/4” low at 100 yards, -2” at about 130 yards.

I get the “bang flop” at any yardage with my 44, period.

There is nothing I wouldn’t shoot with a 44 but the 357 is nice too but It depends on your needs.

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If I could only have one it would be the .44 Magnum. I would buy the Rossi '92 instead of the Marlin , you could get one in .357 and one in .44 Mag for the cost of a real Marlin.


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Originally Posted by EddieSouthgate
If I could only have one it would be the .44 Magnum. I would buy the Rossi '92 instead of the Marlin , you could get one in .357 and one in .44 Mag for the cost of a real Marlin.



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44 will out perform the 357 in heavy hitting.....

Kids & wives will like the 357 better for recoil & report......4/Trailboss & cast 158 gr plinkin

Rossi....had a bad experience with C/S.......my last Rossi

Marlin take down & clean.....simple

Polish the innards ? Simple

This Marlin in pic......one of my fav's.......1999 45 Colt Cowboy chopped to 16"

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Originally Posted by EddieSouthgate
If I could only have one it would be the .44 Magnum. I would buy the Rossi '92 instead of the Marlin , you could get one in .357 and one in .44 Mag for the cost of a real Marlin.


I have a 1977 made Marlin in 44 Mag. I've had Rossi's in 45 Colt and 357. I wouldn't trade the Marlin for 10 Rossi's.

However, to each, his own.

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Originally Posted by EddieSouthgate
If I could only have one it would be the .44 Magnum. I would buy the Rossi '92 instead of the Marlin , you could get one in .357 and one in .44 Mag for the cost of a real Marlin.


I have a 1977 made Marlin in 44 Mag. I've had Rossi's in 45 Colt and 357. I wouldn't trade the Marlin for 10 Rossi's.

However, to each, his own.




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I preferred the Marlin 94 over the Rossi 92 as you could take the bolt out and clean it from the breech. However, I hated that fat forearm. It was just ugly and bulged in the scabbard. It detracted from the looks like the flat lines of the older Marlin 94's flat. First thing I did was make new forearm. It sure made elk do bang flops though.

I took the Rossi apart and smoothed up the action and polished the loading gate. After that it was as smooth as the Marlin.I have had it 30+years and no malfunctions.


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