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GaranDismal, Cite your contrived chambering/projectile,along with throat/COAL/RPM particulars,if only to rub your nose further in your own STUPIDITY...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? I'd be REAL careful. HINT. ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/DSBfNT.png) Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Not that you didn't have to steal a pic for "your" avatar. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Campfire 'Bwana
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There is zero downside to BC and the game tastes the same - assumes you get the game when your wind call was off and the softball you shot goes 16 inches into the guts instead of the lungs.
Me
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To a hunting rifle and marksman... BC's are so much barbie doll clothes.
Enjoy them, if that's your thing.
The game will taste the same, regardless.
Even w/ good ole flat-based PSP bullets.
GR Given where Stick hunts - literally 1/2 the time/days during hunting season, they see winds greater than 17mph. BC and wind drift are a concern. Over 20 days a month with wind speeds over 12 mph. At range - it matters. I’ll take all the cheat I can within reason. BC - doesn't replace marksmanship. The game will taste the same. GR No. It sure doesn’t. Never inferred that. But you knew that.
Semper Fi
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There is zero downside to BC and the game tastes the same - assumes you get the game when your wind call was off and the softball you shot goes 16 inches into the guts instead of the lungs. You’re pissing in the wind brother. That fella has either never shot in a breeze or is just defending ol faithful. Arguing to be less lethal is a new one for me.
Semper Fi
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To a hunting rifle and marksman... BC's are so much barbie doll clothes.
Enjoy them, if that's your thing.
The game will taste the same, regardless.
Even w/ good ole flat-based PSP bullets.
GR Given where Stick hunts - literally 1/2 the time/days during hunting season, they see winds greater than 17mph. BC and wind drift are a concern. Over 20 days a month with wind speeds over 12 mph. At range - it matters. I’ll take all the cheat I can within reason. BC - doesn't replace marksmanship. The game will taste the same. GR No. It sure doesn’t. Never inferred that. But you knew that. True enough. GR
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There is zero downside to BC and the game tastes the same - assumes you get the game when your wind call was off and the softball you shot goes 16 inches into the guts instead of the lungs. If the difference in BC determines a hit or miss? ... then you are no longer hunting. You are simply shooting... irresponsibly... at game. GR
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Campfire Kahuna
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GaranDismal,
I'm VERY "surprised" at your silence. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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There is zero downside to BC and the game tastes the same - assumes you get the game when your wind call was off and the softball you shot goes 16 inches into the guts instead of the lungs. If the difference in BC determines a hit or miss? ... then you are no longer hunting. You are simply shooting... irresponsibly... at game. GR That's just not correct. You either haven't shot even at mid range distance in much wind or are just trying to stir the pot. If it's to simply to argue, carry on. If it's ignorance, you may want to stop, you are in over your head
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Is anything that a 6.5 queermore can do that a 280ai can't, besides fit into a short action?
Life is good live it while you can.
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There is zero downside to BC and the game tastes the same - assumes you get the game when your wind call was off and the softball you shot goes 16 inches into the guts instead of the lungs. If the difference in BC determines a hit or miss? ... then you are no longer hunting. You are simply shooting... irresponsibly... at game. GR That's just not correct. You either haven't shot even at mid range distance in much wind or are just trying to stir the pot. If it's to simply to argue, carry on. If it's ignorance, you may want to stop, you are in over your head On the contrary. Hunt to 300 yds. regularly, and 400 yds. and a little further on occasion... in all wind conditions. What is the wind difference, of known BC, at 400 yds.? Or drop, for that matter? GR
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Campfire Kahuna
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TrueSchit, Your keyboard is slurring,as you espouse your Homoerotic Fantasies...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/sYsQML.png) Bless your poor poor(literally) heart,for trying though. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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BC - is a placebo for marksmanship.
GR
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GaranDismal, You are doing fhuqking "great!"...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/922/C0prud.png) Google on,you Amazingly CLUELESS Fhuqk. Hint. Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Not that you didn't have to steal a pic for "your" avatar. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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What is the wind difference, of known BC, at 400 yds.?
Or drop, for that matter?
Need some help w/ this one?
BC - is a placebo for marksmanship.
GR
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Campfire Kahuna
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GranDismal, You Amazingly STUPID Fhuqks are a hoot...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/twnEsB.png) 338-Twat-Six with 250gr Barnes Solid's KNOWN BC of .247 G1. Drop also KNOWN. Impact velocity also KNOWN and all factored by BC. Hint. ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/FjBgav.png) Flipside,with same rifle,same weight projectile,same launch speed,same atmosphere and same 100yd zero. The only fhuqking difference,being BC,as applied to a 250 Skinner and it's .322 G7 designator of same. 'Course a G7 drag function designator,is effectively 50% of the G1 value and now even you "know". KNOWN BC. Drop also KNOWN. Impact velocity also KNOWN and all factored by BC. Hint. ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/YP4OQC.png) ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/U54grb.png) 250 Skinner magfed Smooches,are rather Skookum. You might wanna gawk drop,impact velocity,"energy" and even time of flight,then factor how BC is/was the only change. Hint. ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/Qb473K.jpg) ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/JBh7IL.jpg) Google on,you Amazingly CLUELESS Fhuqk. Hint. Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Not that you didn't have to steal a pic for "your" avatar. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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After listening to Stick rant about the 180 ELDM, I built a 280 AI, using Lapua brass, throated for the 180g ELDM, IMR 7828, FEd 210....Shocked is an understatement on 400 and 550 yard targets. Deer and Hogs collapse on the spot...
A Real World lesson BC...Something you just have to see to believe! The load is worth building a rifle around, and small groups abound, near and far!
Thanks Stick!
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The Added weight of the 280 counts…. I built my 280 AI a while back, and she likes them hot…
I had a 270 and it likes 140 grain bullets but it couldn’t get them up there… the wider hole in the 280 does a lot.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Twatscooter, Your sheer and utter CLUELESSNESS,is simply fhuqking AMAZING...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/3ruGlQ.png) A diameter "difference" equal to (2) fhuqking layers of Scotch Tape,can NOT,will NOT and assuredly do NOT "skew" terminal effects. Hint. Gals who "know" and "do" as "much" as you,will ALWAYS be best served by asking questions,rather than giving "answers". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I lusted after one hard in the 90's. Never built one. Later, wiser lol - I have no interest.
If I was married to a 7mm (I'm not) - I don't know why I'd go 150 grain. I'd be 162 Amax or if needing/wanting some other construction or speed 120 TTSX and it would be 7-08. Modest even more on powder and great Lapua brass available. When/should I shoot out the barrel on my Montana - it's going to be duped but 6.5 Creed to replace it though. I mentioned 150’s (and heavier) has this gun would take over where the 6.5 ends, I have the creed, all set there, 127 LRX and 140 BERGERS. looking for a gap between the 6.5 and my .30 cals.
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There is zero downside to BC and the game tastes the same - assumes you get the game when your wind call was off and the softball you shot goes 16 inches into the guts instead of the lungs. If the difference in BC determines a hit or miss? ... then you are no longer hunting. You are simply shooting... irresponsibly... at game. GR I somewhat agree with you, The shots at game I’ve missed, the miss had little to do with some little 3 digit number.
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