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Like my Lancers.

I find my recommendations to be the best.

That's cool, John.

Do you have a link to that data? Would help end a lot of squabbles over which to buy.

Thanks.

Here's one

Stainless ASC's are also on my fave list.

I like 20 round pmags. 30s work fine but hang lower so when I'm bench shooting, I have to raise the gun further above the table top .. less steady, less accurate. The 20s are almost exactly the same height as the grip. On the other hand, there is a plus to the 30s .. working up loads shooting 5 shot groups I can start with the hottest at the bottom of the mag, then the next lightest, etc with the lightest at the top. 5 shots, change dots, 5 shots, change dots, etc 'til it is empty. Can test a lot of things in a real hurry if you set up 5 dots per target sheet, it's just a touch trickier to get equally steady.

I was not an AR fan either. Always leaned toward mini-14 but I didn't have one of those either. Finally got tired of one of my lefty / anti-gun friends blabbing her so called expertise so I went out 'n' bought one just to see what the truth was. I got a Ruger MPR. F'ing thing shoots very well, as good per $$ spent as any bolt gun on average. Now I can't really seeing NOT having one. Thanks, loud mouthed lefty friend. Ironies abound!

Tom

PMags and more PMags.
I find HK to be the smoothest feeding magazine. Expensive, as everything HK.

Nothing but good experiences with PMag, Lancer, and Daniel Defense.

Look for this thread to go on for 10 more pages saying the same schit over and over.

Well played.

Thank you.

And this bit from Henderson Defense,

“ USGI mags have outlasted all of the other brands. We use UGSI (Brownell's with tan follower) and on a mag for mag basis, they have outlasted Pmags and a few of the other mags that we get from mfg'ers with new weapons. We don't have to worry about various generations with different weapons like the MR556, SCAR, F2000, Tavor or a couple of others that use AR15/M4 magazines.”

Science believes in evolution and global warming. I believe in rounds fired.

Henderson only worries and tracks round counts.

PMags are proven to be the most reliable magazines for combat use.

If one is supplying mags for tourists to burn out barrels then metal mags might last longer and save you a few dollars over millions of rounds.

If the US Army or Marine Corps is buying magazines for combat reliability they choose PMags due to the proven better reliability.

“Studies” can be found to support any side of the situation you want. I shoot both.

Feel free to post a link to any studies that show Pmags are not the most reliable.

Thanks.

I just did above

Do you think he’s gonna rent a gun with mags that aren’t reliable?

Post any quote from the ARFcom Henderson thread that quantifiably addresses feeding reliability.

Thanks.


As has been said many times in this thread other mags can work fine for tourists and others not interested in the best reliability.

If you want the best combat reliability PMags are proven to offer such.

Beyond round count. Another deal are drop tests. The Gen3 PMag gets little cracks, so it fails, although still functional. The aluminum one bends all to chit, binds up and fails to function, although it doesn't crack and passes the test. Sounds very sciency. LOL



This, copied and pasted may be of interest... From a pretty good discussion. https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?193786-Why-PMAGs-are-better-than-aluminum-USGI

"To add a few points...yes, you can drop an M3 and break it after a few drops if it hits right. Your USGI Mag would be non functional at the same point, however, and the cracked PMAG will still feed fine.

Yeah, there were some tweaks required to the 2007 PMAG for some guns. A decade ago. The M3 stop is there for a good reason, and if you want the other benefits of the mag, yes lowers that deviate from normal dimensions require alteration to the stop...but if you don't have a weird lower, it's a complete non-issue. Certainly not for anything built to TDP.

M3's were not redesigned. A tiny rib was added to deal with ammunition on the smaller end of SAAMI spec that could exhibit the transposition issue. Never was an issue with function, and apart from a few outliers, only on the early M3 20 did it prevent insertion when combined with the right rifle and ammunition. We made the change anyway. We have test data both before and after the change, and it doesn't affect anything else. Sinlesssorrow, why didn't you swap those out? You still can. If you're seeing the issue with mags you have, just swap them for new ones. We'll gladly do so, as has always been our policy.

We've long ago covered the whole long term storage thing on this very forum. There are plenty of guys in service right now who have PMAGS that have been on 3, 4, or more deployments. So that part should not be in question.

Lots of folks want to give USGI mags a pass, "Oh it was old" or "it was past service life" or "you just didn't take care of them". I'll agree that the USGI is not a "bad" mag with many ammunition types in certain iterations, although every change picatinny has made has seemingly made it worse. What cannot be said, however, in the face of the body of test data that now exists, is that the USGI is "as good as" the PMAG M3 and certainly not better by any stretch or interpretation of data. Not clean, not dirty, not with multiple types of currently issued ammo. Maybe extreme long term longevity in protected environments without rough handling, like non-maneuvering range use.

It's fine if someone "prefers" USGI, or any other mag, for form factor, fit in pouches, familiarity, or whatever. There's just not much of an argument that can be made based on feeding performance to support any choice other than PMAG GEN M3, especially with currently issued ammunition types.

Duane Liptak, Jr.
Executive Vice President
Magpul... "

S/S ASC's for me. Hint..............

In my experience the GI and green followers are every bit as good as a Magpul but Magpuls tend to damage when dropped on the hard deck more often. Yes they'll still function when cracked but cracked is cracked and you now have a mag relegated to range use only.

H&K or similar tend to do the worst on concrete pads for obvious reasons.

I use plenty of both USGI and Magpul and have never seen any real world difference. The only thing that would influence my decision one way or another would be price and only if buying in large quantity.