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So Shaman, what ya want? Which one will be your new sweetheart?


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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
So Shaman, what ya want? Which one will be your new sweetheart?


Don't know quite yet. I'm still stuck in this hospital room, so it's not like I'm going to be up to anything for a while. I just thought I'd ask the question and let the answers wash over me.

One thing is for certain: comparing answers from 2002-2003 to now, things are not as polarized. More people had definite tastes in 30 WCF. Sadly, a lot of those old curmudgeons are now no longer with us.

I've actually toyed with 30-30 more than most of my chamberings. I'm always getting ideas. Since 2002, I've also added a Savage 340 to the rack. That's #1 granddaughter's if she wants it. Although she still has some growing to do.

My guess is that I was WAAAAY over-thinking the problem back in 2002. Just about every common bullet has its proponents, and I'm sure that if the situation had been different, all the bullets I tried would have been suitable.

BTW: One of the biggest peeves I had was that I was using the Marlin 336 for Mooseboy's first Yute rifle. He had horrible luck. It took about a decade for him to fess up and admit he'd been closing his eyes before pulling the trigger. Once I switched him to the M1 Garand, he stopped having trouble. Lil Angus also had good luck with the Marlin stoked with the Win FP's.


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Let us know when you figure it out. Some of us have stash we can part with.


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working on loads with the new Apex Outdoors copper hp 161 gr Haymaker bullets in my 30-30 AI Contender

bullets were designed for & to open up at 300 Blackout velocities, the 30-30 is a bit faster

big ol hollow point/cavity that could work in lever guns

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then there's the 143 gr Lever Hammer ....

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Putting monos in a 30-30 is like putting a spoiler on a K-Car.

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The 150 Speer FP has always worked well for me, both accuracy and terminal performance wise. Speer has also somewhat kept up with demand and their bullets have been more or less available through this whole mess these last 2 years.

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Except in California and then it’s like putting a 10 round mag into a Glock 17…

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Originally Posted by Swamplord
working on loads with the new Apex Outdoors copper hp 161 gr Haymaker bullets in my 30-30 AI Contender

bullets were designed for & to open up at 300 Blackout velocities, the 30-30 is a bit faster

big ol hollow point/cavity that could work in lever guns

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Good morning shaman!
Keep your good fight going.
Years ago I used the Speer 130 grain flat nose in Deer and antelope. Have never recovered one. It’s an excellent bullet. In the tall hills I use the nosler partition and a cast 195 grain hollow point loaded to full speed with lever lotion. The hollow point cast went into the seventh gallon water filled milk jug and also dropped a huge sow pig down south.
The 30/30 is my favorite rifle and cartridge. All I use are model 64s cause I like them.

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I have killed about 12-14 deer with 30-30s in my life and in every case I shot a 150 grain the bullets didn't exit and in every case but one, all my 170s did exit. Just 2 seasons ago I killed a white tail with a 170 grain Speer that came apart on me and didn't exit the deer. Odd, because up until then the 170 grain Speer was always a great killer with good penetration and all others exited. I have used 170 grain Winchesters, Remingtons Sierra and Speer and never had a problem. In fact the deer I killed with the Speer 170 that I just told about did drop instantly, so I don't have a lot of complain about, but I just always like bullets to exit.

If my count is correct I believe I used 150 grain bullets 5 times. I remember 2 Remingtons, 2 Federals and 1 Winchester. None exited the deer. All looked good when I recovered them, but just would not get through a Mule Deer buck. When I switched to 170s I never failed to get an exit until 2 years ago.
Other then the Nosler Partition, I think all the 170 grain 30 cal flat nose bullets are about the same. So I would be OK with a Speer, Hornady, Sierra, and if you can find any left, a Remington or a Winchester. The Partitions probably do hold together better then any of the others, but if you get exits it's not important that one hold more weight then some other. Since you mentioned "cheap dependable" bullets I omit the Nosler Partitions. They are very dependable, but not cheap.

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My go to 300 savage bullet is the hornaday 160 ftx.

Elk to 400 yards

I bet at 100 yds 30/30 would be muey bueno.

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My favorite bullet when I was doing a lot of hunting with the 30-30 was the 150 gr. Sierra flat nose. Opened fast and did a lot of damage. The 150 gr. Speer flat nose worked great also. I usually didn't use the 170 grain bullets but when I did the Hornady flat nose opened a lot faster than I thought it would and worked well also. On the other hand I have to give the Remington corelokt 150 credit as used in a factory round, this was way back in the 70's so I don't know if the new ones are the same bullet.


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any body use the 140gr. hornady factory load? first hand reports still count when the real world guessing poops out. 3030 the 160 works ok just looking for new toy to try.

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3031 powder and 150 or 170 Interlocks. Leverevolution and Monoflex are gimmicks. I've killed a lot with 30-30's up to and including a Moose

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Originally Posted by SuperCub
Putting monos in a 30-30 is like putting a spoiler on a K-Car.
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I've never loaded for the .30/30, but my cousin loaded for it for awhile. He strongly favored 3031 and one of the 170s, probably whatever was cheapest (he is THE tightwad of the family of tightwads). The rest of us figured that the ammo companies had plenty of time to figure out how to make .30/30 bullets work.

I've only killed one deer with a .30/30, and I killed it with a Winchester 150 Power Point load, it did not exit, but the deer only ran about 30 yards with a nice bloodtrail, despite having only one hole in it. That load will shoot into an inch!!! at 100 yards (Marlin 336 Sporting Carbine, Leupold M8-4X) I like the little Marlin, but I like the straight grip leverguns a bit better than the Marlins. Doesn't matter a bit to the deer, though.


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Reloader 15 is the schizzle.


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I have loaded the 170 grain Speer flat point over 4320 powder for nearly 30 years now. Always excellent terminal performance. I recently loaded up a batch using the Hornady 160 grain FTX, and in my Marlin 336Y (16 inch barrel) it seems accurate enough. Haven't killed anything with it yet though.


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Thanks all for the ideas.

Let me ask y'all a follow-up question: Are there any 30-30 bullets you'd warn against?


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