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What's the general consensus on Sauer 100 XT rifles? I'd never seen one before, local shop has one in .308 that doesn't look bad...decent fit/finish, with pretty good balance. Anyone have any experience with the rifles?

They are outstanding rifles. Accurate and with features meant to defeat the Tikka T3, T3x. Made in the same plant as the Mauser M18 in Isny, Germany. Sauer, Mauser & Blaser are all made on the same campus and share barrel making equipment.

Buy with confidence........there's a fair bit of discussion about these on the fire.

I have one as well as the mauser m18......entry level design, quality manufacturing, simple but well done.

Good barrels, great triggers, excellent detachable magazine function.

Thanks, you guys have pretty much talked me into it...

The stocks feel pretty cheesy, but most stocks in that price range do. I wouldn't let it keep me from getting one.

Any idea what the bare rifles weigh?? Can't seem to find the specs on them.

I'm guessing the .308 I looked at it is right around 7lbs.

I just snipped these specs from a guns and ammo test.

Capacity: 5 rds. Overall Length: 42 in. Weight: 6 lbs., 11 oz. Length of Pull: 14.25 in

Pay attention to that LOP!

Paul has it right. The LOP on the Sauer and Mausers are looooong. I have a Mauser M12 and it is a tack driver. The stock however needs to be cut down to 13.5". I have to crawl into it which I hate. The trigger is probably the best trigger I've ever felt out of the box including Tikka.

I have a few of them but haven't shot them yet. I saw somewhere that their 6.5 prc barrels run slow and I hope not because that's one that I have. I finally picked up a box of lapua 6 5 prc brass the other day so I hope to test it out soon. They look well made and fit me well but the LOP on the stocks may be a bit long for shorter people.

Bb

They must think all hunters are 6'4" with arms like a gorilla and hunt in T-shirts with that LOP.

I'm only 6'2 now but used to be 6'3.5" before ankylosing spondylitis took my spine. My sleeve length is still 36-37 so your 6'4" comment is probably pretty spot on. They have a long length of pull for an average gut but I love the way they feel. If you're vertically challenged or have short arms definitely handle one before you buy one. I'm guessing lop is at least 14" maybe 14.25".

Bb

I was looking at an M18 online and thought it was one action length regardless of cartridge.
Cost savings proly, but I wont run a .308 win in a long action. Bummer if the Sauer same way.

LOP shortening is an easy fix. It’s the other way around that pisses me off.

I typically like a 14”-14.25” LOP. Winchester 70s and Ruger M77s always came with 13.75” LOP with a thin recoil pad. I would always just ditch the thin pad for a 1” thick Pachmayr Decelerator pad and “Presto” LOP issue fixed.

Remington’s 13.5” LOP and thicker factory recoil pads made increasing the LOP to my liking a problem….thick spacers are ugly.
Hence the reason I only own one Remington 700 to this day…and it’s in a McMillan stock with a 14”+ LOP.😁

Love the long LOP...sucks when your thumb hits you in the nose (Rem 700 338 WM) even with light loads....and this is a heavy rifle (lami stock). I've got 3 other 700s (2-280s and a 300 SAUM) that I can shoot w/o facial trauma.

Love the long LOP...sucks when your thumb hits you in the nose (Rem 700 338 WM) even with light loads....and this is a heavy rifle (lami stock). I've got 3 other 700s (2-280s and a 300 SAUM) that I can shoot w/o facial trauma.

Blaser barrels can run slow until they are fully broken in, many times around 200 rounds. it's not uncommon for a barrel to pick up 200 fps from when new until after full break in. Sauer & Mauser barrels are made in the same room as Blaser so its highly possible they'll get faster as they settle in.

I think that LOP would be a deal breaker for me.

I recently purchase a 6.5 PRC Sauer. Shoots great. Have not chrono'd the loads, but nice little groups

I like the palm swell in the stock. Very clean and crisp trigger

I bought 2 rifles in 6.5 PRC: Sauer and a Tikka

Both shot great, Tikka needs to figure out the magazine.

Moved the Tikka forward and kept the Sauer

The Mauser M18 & Sauer 100 were both designed to be Tikka killers.

I had an early 100 in .222 that absolutely would not feed. At all.

Tikka makes a LH model Sauer 100 does not

Advantage-Tikka.

I wouldn't consider trading a Tikka for a Mauser as good as the Mausers are. LOP is just one of the concerns. Too much aftermarket support for Tikka these days.

LH advantage for Tikka for a minority group !!!!

Probably not a big deal unless you are in that group. Like I am.

If Blaser Group sold the Sauer XTA, which is stainless, in the US then I would buy one. I called the US office and the person who answered the phone said that it is a model for Europe and will not be imported. I hope that changes, and that they incorporate faster twist barrels. Other than that, they seem like nice rifles within their respective price range.

Why the Germans do what they do is beyond me. The American gun market is larger than the European market yet they hold some desirable pieces back. Sako/Tikka does the same thing.

Bringing this back up.......I've got a line on a Sauer Atacama 6.5 PRC. This LOP thing has me thinking though. I'm 6'2" FWIW. Wondering how those of you who have the 100's are liking them? I've got several Tikkas and want to try something else (gave the Tikka PRC to my son).

Johnny, I am 5'11" and that rifle shoulders well for me. It should suit you well even if you have a thick layer on. I should probably add that I don't like crawling a stock.

Thanks Paul.

I cant recite LOP specs on each but based on personal experience at the bench for both the 100 xt and the m18...

I felt more comfortable behind the m18....which is why I dont think the LOPs for these 2 are identical.....I think the 100 xt is a bit longer.....

Outstanding rifle with a trigger every bit as good as a Jewel . My .270 win shoots consistent sub-moa 5 shot groups at 100 yards. I mounted a Swarovski Z5i 2.5-12. The loads that performed best were Hornady 140gr Interlock with 58.2 H-4831sc and a BR2 primer, 52.0hr of H-4350 gave same accuracy with a little less velocity. And the Barnes 130gr TTSX , 60.1gr H4831sc, and BR2 primer, and 130gr SST, 53gr H-4350, 210 primer . All of these loads gave me sub-moa groups from . . Even after 50 rounds I could still get five shot sub-moa groups. This gun shines

Non threaded press fit barrels like the Sauer has are a no go for me. Tikka for me

Sauer 100 has a traditional screw in barrel; not press fit. They share the same barrel production facility with Blaser and Mauser. Great quality barrel.

Sauer 100 / Mauser M18 = threaded barrel (like a Tikka)
Sauer 101 / Mauser M12 = press-fit barrel

I've got a 308 that I think is a mauser m12. Several of us here bought them pretty cheap from some place on the east coast a few years ago. It has a fluted 22" or so shorter barrel. I'd firgot about it until the other day I was looking for one of my sauers to finally get it to the range and pulled out the mauser. It looks like a decent rifle too so I'm going to put a scope on it and see how it likes my old 308 loads of 155 scenars over varget.

Bb

The HS precision stock has a 13.5" LOP. The regular model is 14.25".

What features make it more desirable than a Tikka? Was about to recommend a Tikka to a buddy.

Not much, if anything......mags for the german guns have higher capacity........i got excellent deals on my sauer and mauser at the time......not sure theres a savings there anymore......

All are plenty accurate and not heavy to tote.

Maybe the 3-position safety?

Some of the features have been mentioned but as compared to the Tikka T3/T3x:

5-round, flush fitting mag
3-position safety
scope mounts are on a Rem 700 pattern
Stock is more substantial

These are some of the features that come to mind.

The Sauer 100 uses a standard, .30-06 length action, bolt and magazine for both long and short action (.308 length) cartridges. The rear of a short action magazine is simply filled with a plastic spacer to keep the cartridges forward in the magazine and in the proper place to feed into the chamber when the bolt is operated. This means the .30-06 (long) and .308 (short) actions are the same length and weight with the same bolt throw, so no weight savings are realized by ordering a short action caliber, and scope mounting options with shorter length scopes are more limited.

That's the same with the Tikka too.