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Per Wikipedia, Malmstrom Air Force Base at Great Falls, MT has been closed to fixed wing aircraft operations since 1996, still used for helicopter ops. Place looks like a ghost town. Those must have been some pretty exciting air shows your neighbor worked. The T-Birds are based at Nellis AFB here in the Vegas Valley. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/W4g4Crds/New-Picture.png) You're aware that's a traveling show, just like a circus? But do standby July 23/24 2022, if you're near Great Falls, MT. look up in the sky.He left there once for a few months when he was deployed during the Gulf War. Other than that his every day was spent at that base. Just shows what a waste of money it was. I think you'd find the NG still uses it but on that I'm guessing a little.
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Yep, I’ve read and enjoyed them both. Have the e versions on my iPad.
I mainly read military history and related fiction and Rocky did good!
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Air shows are more of a recruiting tool than training. The idea of getting to play with all those wonderful toys and getting paid to do it is a powerful incentive. It's more of a deceptive tease for recruiting. How many kids that join the AF ever some much as gets to park their azz in one of those planes let alone fly one? You don't have to fly one to get attached to the job. I was a medevac CE (crew chief) for several years and one deployment to Ft Knox and Ft. Hood. I really enjoyed my time on a team and I served a purpose. It's hard to describe unless you have been there. kwg
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Those air show's are a huge needless waste of tax dollars. you're pretty much an idiot aren't you? no need to reply. this worthless babbling is proof. Please provide your Military service record below or in Private Message. I anxiously await it. Fu CK Bag
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I really do miss the thunder. T birds were here about six years ago, Angels a couple before that. Both just spun back the clock for me. Formation flying like that is SO difficult, everything else is easy peasy. As for flybys, they have a training purpose, mostly time on target for tactical proficiency, so I wouldn't call that a waste at all.
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I really do miss the thunder. T birds were here about six years ago, Angels a couple before that. Both just spun back the clock for me. Formation flying like that is SO difficult, everything else is easy peasy. As for flybys, they have a training purpose, mostly time on target for tactical proficiency, so I wouldn't call that a waste at all. And for all of the support agencies, getting materiel and personnel in place for mission success is great training. Especially in today's constrained ops, it is very important to exercise the mass movement muscles, whenever available, to ensure they will work when the real-world need arises.
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Some of us who have flown close formation rather jokingly refer to the teams as the Blunderbirds and the Blown Angles because we KNOW how rough it is in there with your wings nearly overlapped in the turbulence from the lead jet. It is indeed a workout to keep a jet that close and appear to be welded together. You never actually move the controls, in fact. You THINK the plane up six inches or closer by a foot - and it goes there. You ignore EVERYTHING but Lead. If he flew into the ground, there'd be four holes exactly spaced. Post WW2 that's exactly what happened to a flight of four P51's--into the backside of Four Peaks mountain.
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Rocky, was that a P51 we saw screaming around there today. We had to come down to Mt Green for a fam reunion and ended up at 5 Guys in Layton. Say outside and watched for about an hour. Always amazing.
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Air shows are more of a recruiting tool than training. The idea of getting to play with all those wonderful toys and getting paid to do it is a powerful incentive. It's more of a deceptive tease for recruiting. How many kids that join the AF ever some much as gets to park their azz in one of those planes let alone fly one? I was one of those kids that worked the Fairchild show when they debuted the 117 It was a thrill Maybe I missed it, what branch did you serve in ?
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I am saying you don't know what you think you know. There is no Airshow career field. That'd really come as a surprise to those that have dedicated their military careers to air show support, speaking of what you think you know.
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I am saying you don't know what you think you know. There is no Airshow career field. That'd really come as a surprise to those that have dedicated their military careers to air show support, speaking of what you think you know. Enlighten us all then, what is the career field solely dedicated to air shows? Also, as many have requested, provide your military background. 18-year, multi-deployment USAF vet here.
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As for airshow support, I have been sent in support of airshows in 8 states and 5 countries outside of the US. That in addition to many multi-national training events and exercises.
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So they didn't keep you around as regular huh?
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So they didn't keep you around as regular huh? There is no such thing. Out side of specialty units (ie Thunderbirds) the airshows are an operational unit function. Even the T-Birds is a limited time, special duty position. You continue to have no idea as to what you speak.
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You're obviously still butt hurt because they didn't keep ya.
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You're obviously still butt hurt because they didn't keep ya. There was no one to keep me. I did these air shows from 4 different bases with 7 different units. It simply works nothing like the bull snot you are spewing. You are obviously completely clueless as to how anything in the Air Force works at all.
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