My 6.5 PRC rifle purchase fell through, so thought I'd ask those with experience. Assuming the price is practically the same, or in the ballpark.....considering the Tikka, Sauer Atacama, or Sako S20, which one are you buying? Not the least bit interested in Christensen anything. I have brass, powders, and dies already.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
I'd buy the "new unfired" Tikka that nathaniel has in the classifieds for $950.. Handled a new one in person the other day at the LGS and they are damn nice. Those stocks feel really good in the hands and I like the spiral fluting on the bolt. You know it's going to be a great shooter. The price locally is $1,079.00, so nathaniel has his priced very well. His also comes with a rail. Hard to beat that deal!
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
No problem. I believe it is a Roughtech model. Those are threaded 5/8x24. The one I was looking at was machined so well that it just looked like a brake on the end of the barrel. Here is the link to nathaniels rifle. I'd ask him to verify:
No problem. I believe it is a Roughtech model. Those are threaded 5/8x24. The one I was looking at was machined so well that it just looked like a brake on the end of the barrel. Here is the link to nathaniels rifle. I'd ask him to verify:
I just bought a CVA Cascade. Looks like a Bergara entry model. Looks/feels great and trigger adjusted right down to 2#. Haven't shot it yet, came with 3 boxes of 143 ELDX, all from a guy who found something else almost immediately! I like it so far.
Of those listed I’d grab that tikka in the classifieds and I’m sure you would be happy. I’m pretty sure all tikkas are a long action. Hells canyon armory makes a pretty slick magazine for the WSM rounds that allows longer OAL.
My 6.5 PRC rifle purchase fell through, so thought I'd ask those with experience. Assuming the price is practically the same, or in the ballpark.....considering the Tikka, Sauer Atacama, or Sako S20, which one are you buying? Not the least bit interested in Christensen anything. I have brass, powders, and dies already.
LOL.
You should prioritize resale value.
When you find out once again the latest and greatest still does not help your situation it's going down the road as you keep searchin for a hardware solution to your software problem.
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
Remember when he was all "Our proprietary HS Precision stocks aluminum bedding block has the same expansion ratio of our proprietary aluminum Leupold scope, thus increasing accuracy" BWAHAHAHAHA!
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
SafariBurns seems to think this rifle is something I need, to help kill stuff, to better my abilities. Fact is I just want one, to see what the PRC is all about. Already got a can to put on it. Not sure I need a better reason. I certainly appreciate all you guys thoughts and comments for sure.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
SafariBurns seems to think this rifle is something I need, to help kill stuff, to better my abilities. Fact is I just want one, to see what the PRC is all about. Already got a can to put on it. Not sure I need a better reason. I certainly appreciate all you guys thoughts and comments for sure.
SafariBurns seems to think this rifle is something I need, to help kill stuff, to better my abilities. Fact is I just want one, to see what the PRC is all about. Already got a can to put on it. Not sure I need a better reason. I certainly appreciate all you guys thoughts and comments for sure.
Nothing wrong with following a new fad trying to be a cool kid but we all know a 30-06 Ruger will do everything you could ever hope to get done.
Just Sayin.
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
Great answer to a question I didn't ask. If I would have had one of your super double top secret overpriced AR's maybe I would've got this one down......
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
Great answer to a question I didn't ask. If I would have had one of your super double top secret overpriced AR's maybe I would've got this one down......
I'd have shot him right in the Burns!
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
Great answer to a question I didn't ask. If I would have had one of your super double top secret overpriced AR's maybe I would've got this one down......
Always looking for a hardware solution to your software problems.
30-06 Ruger and practice.
Just Sayin.
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
Great answer to a question I didn't ask. If I would have had one of your super double top secret overpriced AR's maybe I would've got this one down......
Always looking for a hardware solution to your software problems.
Ha!
Catch phrase!
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
Great answer to a question I didn't ask. If I would have had one of your super double top secret overpriced AR's maybe I would've got this one down......
I'd have shot him right in the Burns!
You could have filled your first elk tag.
That would have been kewl.
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
Great answer to a question I didn't ask. If I would have had one of your super double top secret overpriced AR's maybe I would've got this one down......
I'd have shot him right in the Burns!
You could have filled your first elk tag.
That would have been kewl.
LULZ!
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
Are the christensen rifles not worth looking at? Serious ?
Was thinking about getting a 6.5 PRC myself and the ridgeline fft with 20” barrel was enticing as I run a suppressor whenever possible.
The one in the classifieds here looks like a great shooter. However, from what I've personally seen, they do not always shoot all that well. YMMV. Generally a straight out of the Box Tikka is a sure bet and not as much of a gamble when talking accuracy expectations. We can probably all share stories, but the latest CA rifle I saw was a decked out rifle one of my buddies bought last year. He's thrown so much money into it and it is only mediocre at best. The last time I saw him with the rifle was right before one of our club's precision centerfire matches he suggested in the club meeting. He told me that his new Tikka 270 winchester he had just bought for his wife was more accurate than his Christensen decked out in the chassis. He was pretty disgusted and looked like he wanted to throw that rifle into the woods. Unfortunately he did not show up at the shoot he suggested we have because his rifle was not up to the task.. I believe one member here was able to make it to that shoot (Sheister). I have other stories about CA, but they have the same ending. Sadly, one of my new buddies here just bought one. He says he has 4 grand into it and he wants to go shooting soon. I'm not going to bring any of my Tikka's, as I do not want to make him feel bad...
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
SafariBurns succeeded in derailing and interesting thread didn't he? He apparently missed the whole point of the OP.....functionality, performance, build quality, actual usage of these particular rifles. Not sure why he went off on a tangent regarding calibers, ability, practice, etc? We all have enough experience to know what works for a specific application, which is quite obvious. The guy has proven to be a fraud and a farce, but I do thank you guys for your information and feedback before he showed up.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
Scott's been drooling over the APR for quite some time and needs someone to buy one so he can live vicariously through them.
Don't be an enabler Fowler......SKane is devious enough by his own self.
Probably selling the 'better half's" shoes on Poshmark to afford the APR.
Pfffft. If I sold half of her shoes, I could go brown bear hunting with Phil.
JG and JB - fight nice fellas, or you'll be put in a room for 2 days with your eyelids taped open while forced to review each jaguartx post in the campfire forum.
Ah yes. Another interesting topic thread turned into a two topic thread. One interesting. One, not so much.
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My 6.5 PRC rifle purchase fell through, so thought I'd ask those with experience. Assuming the price is practically the same, or in the ballpark.....considering the Tikka, Sauer Atacama, or Sako S20, which one are you buying? Not the least bit interested in Christensen anything. I have brass, powders, and dies already.
I bought a used Sauer, the one with dark green cerrakote and a camo stock. Got it pretty cheap. It shoots great and it runs really well from the shoulder,I have killled three running hogs with it off hand and the stock design seems to really mitigate recoil. It has a little negative drop at the comb like the NULA rifles.
I should add that I have Tikka 6.5 Creedmoor that shoots itty bitty groups.
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Originally Posted by Bristoe
The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
My 6.5 PRC rifle purchase fell through, so thought I'd ask those with experience. Assuming the price is practically the same, or in the ballpark.....considering the Tikka, Sauer Atacama, or Sako S20, which one are you buying? Not the least bit interested in Christensen anything. I have brass, powders, and dies already.
Back on track . . . .
None of the above. I chose to go the route of a custom - 2, actually. Defiance Deviant Hunter, 26" Proof CF, 1-7.75, and a Defiance anTi, 20" Bartlein #4 CF, 1-7.75. One resides in a Mesa Precision Attitude; the other a McM Game Stalker. Both wear BDL-style bottom metal and TriggerTech triggers.
I never thought I'd grow up to be a grumpy old man, but I did, and I'm killin' it.
Just saw the 7 PRC is on its way out. It'll be interesting to see how well it does in the market.
Probably about as well as the 7 wizzum and similar cartridges. You know how those are doing.. Or maybe the new designed 270 wizzum. They call that the 6.8 western.... ha ha.. Anyone hear much about the 300PRC anymore? The 6.5 is really where it's at IMHO.. They have probably speculated doing a 6mm, but those are barrel burners from the word GO..
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
I didn’t read all the posts, so this might be a duplicate of others suggestions.
Being that I have owned a slug of 6.5 PRC rifles, from APR custom builds, to a cheap Franchi Elite.
If you have the time to wait for a custom (I’m not gonna say the money, for obvious reasons 🙄) I’d go with another APR build….If you wanted a dedicated rifle, that will spend more time afield than in a gun safe. A custom is nice.
If the PRC will just be another rifle in your battery rotation, I’d jump all over a Tikka T3x Lite in a camo pattern of your liking. Or the basic Tikka Roughneck rifle that has a solid stock color and comes without a muzzle brake, iirc.
The Tikka will probably shoot as good as a custom.
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My current favorite hunting rifle is a Seekins Element in 6.5 PRC. It’s one heck of a rifle that will see a lot of blood this season.
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My current favorite hunting rifle is a Seekins Element in 6.5 PRC. It’s one heck of a rifle that will see a lot of blood this season.
I think the Havak PH2 if you want a 24" sporter-weight rifle or the Havak Element if you want a lightweight 21" are two really good fits for the PRC. Both are threaded. Seekins thought it through and designed their short action bottom metal and short action PRC mag to load to 3.1". Action, stock, barrel, and rail are really good on both of those as well.
Really appreciate the feedback. I have a couple of customs in 7Mag and 7-08 and really like and appreciate them for sure. Hear great things about the Seekins as well as APR, butt this particlur PRC will "just" be another addition to my hunting guns, which is why I plan on buying the Tikka Roughtech nathaniel has listed here. I don't really need it, it's purely a want thing to smack some targets, lots of hogs, hopefully a few deer, and just screw around with and see how much I like it. It will be suppressed. If I like it as much as I'm expecting, I'll likely then consider that APR if I can save enough "Beaver and SKane" money to make it happen, but it will likely take a few years and a couple extra jobs. I will likely never be able to afford the fine precision instruments that originate in Wyoming so that dream is out of the realm of reality.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
My current favorite hunting rifle is a Seekins Element in 6.5 PRC. It’s one heck of a rifle that will see a lot of blood this season.
I think the Havak PH2 if you want a 24" sporter-weight rifle or the Havak Element if you want a lightweight 21" are two really good fits for the PRC. Both are threaded. Seekins thought it through and designed their short action bottom metal and short action PRC mag to load to 3.1". Action, stock, barrel, and rail are really good on both of those as well.
I agree, Jay….If the wait period for a ‘hens toothed’ Seekins Elite wasn’t an issue for a guy. I’d go thumbs up!
The PH2 is available, last time I looked. Even a custom build, done up with a CF Proof, Titanium action and CF stock, probably won’t yield the weight loss of an Element. I have one, and the Element has it beat by almost 2lbs.
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Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
Really appreciate the feedback. I have a couple of customs in 7Mag and 7-08 and really like and appreciate them for sure. Hear great things about the Seekins as well as APR, butt this particlur PRC will "just" be another addition to my hunting guns, which is why I plan on buying the Tikka Roughtech nathaniel has listed here. I don't really need it, it's purely a want thing to smack some targets, lots of hogs, hopefully a few deer, and just screw around with and see how much I like it. It will be suppressed. If I like it as much as I'm expecting, I'll likely then consider that APR if I can save enough "Beaver and SKane" money to make it happen, but it will likely take a few years and a couple extra jobs. I will likely never be able to afford the fine precision instruments that originate in Wyoming so that dream is out of the realm of reality.
LMAO
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Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
Really appreciate the feedback. I have a couple of customs in 7Mag and 7-08 and really like and appreciate them for sure. Hear great things about the Seekins as well as APR, butt this particlur PRC will "just" be another addition to my hunting guns, which is why I plan on buying the Tikka Roughtech nathaniel has listed here. I don't really need it, it's purely a want thing to smack some targets, lots of hogs, hopefully a few deer, and just screw around with and see how much I like it. It will be suppressed. If I like it as much as I'm expecting, I'll likely then consider that APR if I can save enough "Beaver and SKane" money to make it happen, but it will likely take a few years and a couple extra jobs. I will likely never be able to afford the fine precision instruments that originate in Wyoming so that dream is out of the realm of reality.
That is a great deal on that rifle. I don't think you can go wrong with it. I'm just now getting back from the range with my buddy that works in law enforcement. He is the one that just bought the Christensen with the carbon fiber wrapped barrel. That rifle actually shoots lights out. I was impressed, more than surprised. One of my other buddies in Washington has a Christensen Arms and it is a dud. I haven't seen any Tikka duds personally, but I'm sure there are a few out there. Good luck with that Tikka JG. I think it will be a good one.
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Thanks bsa, I appreciate your feedback and experiences with those Tikkas. As you said, hard to get a dud made by Tikka. Looking forward to trying it out.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
My 6.5 PRC rifle purchase fell through, so thought I'd ask those with experience. Assuming the price is practically the same, or in the ballpark.....considering the Tikka, Sauer Atacama, or Sako S20, which one are you buying? Not the least bit interested in Christensen anything. I have brass, powders, and dies already.
I just purchased one of the S20 Hunter "Display-Model/Cosmetic-Damage" rifles from Cabela's. I can't find any damage on the rifle.
A couple of years ago after getting my wires crossed, I mistakenly ordered the wrong replacement detachable mag for a sauer 100xt 7m08 and ended up with a mag for the 6.5 prc. Sauer 100s and the mauser m18 use the same mag boxes.....
Europtic offered a m18, 6.5 prc w/24" barrel for $479......
My 6.5 PRC rifle purchase fell through, so thought I'd ask those with experience. Assuming the price is practically the same, or in the ballpark.....considering the Tikka, Sauer Atacama, or Sako S20, which one are you buying? Not the least bit interested in Christensen anything. I have brass, powders, and dies already.
Just curious but why the hate for CA?? Just purchased my 1st one and haven't even received it yet.
My 6.5 PRC rifle purchase fell through, so thought I'd ask those with experience. Assuming the price is practically the same, or in the ballpark.....considering the Tikka, Sauer Atacama, or Sako S20, which one are you buying? Not the least bit interested in Christensen anything. I have brass, powders, and dies already.
Just curious but why the hate for CA?? Just purchased my 1st one and haven't even received it yet.
ShortMag, I hope you get a good one like the one my buddy just got. He wanted me there for the barrel break in and his rifle shoots better than any other CA I've seen. He was doing as Christensen suggested for barrel break in, shooting 2 3 shot groups, then clean and repeat etc. etc. but it was shooting 1/2" 3 shot groups for the most part. You can go back and read my other post on what I've seen in the past with Christensen rifles. I believe my buddies was the ridgeline with the carbon fiber wrapped barrel. I'm not JG, but my belief is when you are forking out the high dollars, Christensen demands, it shouldn't be hit and miss when it comes to accuracy, and I've seen some that have shot very poorly right out of the box. Not a lot of guys want to badmouth a product because they think it makes them look like a di ck, but I will relay what I've personally seen. IF guys get offended over that chidt, they need to grow a thicker skin...
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Well, I am thoroughly enjoying the Kelbly's Koda rifle in 6.5 PRC that I bought from them.
You'd be hard pressed to put together a better rifle for the money in my opinion.......
Frog----OUT!
I'm sure it's extremely nice. Wondering how much better it shoots than a Tikka though? I shoot with a lot of guys that run full on customs and I'll say my pretty much bone stock Tikka CTR shoots with the best of them. Yeah, I tinker and fine tune the bedding, but that's about it. I'm talking guys running 28"+ long heavy barrels and custom actions like Stiller, GAP, Bighorn, Defiance, and some others I can't think of right now. Most of those rifles are set up like a PRS match rifle and weigh 18+ pounds. Consistently though, the CTR holds its own and it is a pretty skinny barrel by comparison.. I think JG is wanting a good factory rifle, but I can't speak for him. Just wondering though, how much did your dollar really get you???
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
If Frogman's Kelbly is anything like the Pandas or Kodiaks I have handled, it should be light years ahead of any of Tikka. Tolerances are tight enough on the two I mentioned that replacement barrels can be chambered at the factory and shipped to you to simply screw on. Action timing and trigger handoff are smooth as silk. People tend to be dismissive of what they don't understand, especially on the internet.
I’ve shot exactly one CA. It was the carbon fiber barreled, titanium action model in 300 Win Mag. I shot 3 different Federal Premium factory loads and one of the Hornady ELDX factory loads, don’t remember which ones. A couple of the groups were 1.75” at 100 yards, the rest were 2”-3” groups. The owner said he had tried a few other factory loads in addition to those with similar results. He contacted CA and sent it in, at their request. He has it bac after repair, but last I heard he has not shot it yet.
I tend to agree with BSA here, it is spec’d and priced as a premium rifle. Duds should be very few and far between.
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Don't speculate when you don't know, and don't second guess when you do.
I’ve shot exactly one CA. It was the carbon fiber barreled, titanium action model in 300 Win Mag. I shot 3 different Federal Premium factory loads and one of the Hornady ELDX factory loads, don’t remember which ones. A couple of the groups were 1.75” at 100 yards, the rest were 2”-3” groups. The owner said he had tried a few other factory loads in addition to those with similar results. He contacted CA and sent it in, at their request. He has it bac after repair, but last I heard he has not shot it yet.
I tend to agree with BSA here, it is spec’d and priced as a premium rifle. Duds should be very few and far between.
One of my buddies with a real nice 7mm rem mag is having the same issues and he only shoots 3 shot groups. He's pulled most of his hair out messing with the rifle. He's even brought his fancy chrono out and getting the sd's and es down low. What really pisses him off is the rifle he "bought for his wife", a Tikka 270 winchester shoots better. Not just marginally better, but much better. I don't really like to bad mouth a product, just relaying what I've personally seen and experienced with some CA rifles. I saw the same thing with a 300wm, but that was back in 2009. I would have hoped they had gotten better since then. Enough of my rant. I am hoping JG bought Nathanials rifle and it drives tacks. They sure are pretty too. The one I had in my hands was exactly like it and I damn near bought it. It was so nice, the guy working there said he was going to buy it. The shop owner wanted to trade it for my AR10, but I figured I'd sell the Armalite at a different shop. Last offer I received was $300.00 more than I paid for it, so I may also decide I need that Tikka in 6.5 PRC... but with more money in my pocket after selling the AR10..
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
I went with the vanguard weatherguard. It has a nice synthetic stock and is cerakoted from the factory. Also threaded and comes with a brake that threads on. $599 is what I paid locally.
The only complaint is that it's long action but I doubt that will make any difference.
If I ever get a moment of not being sick AND it's not 98 outside I will go shoot it and show you guys the results.
I’ve shot exactly one CA. It was the carbon fiber barreled, titanium action model in 300 Win Mag. I shot 3 different Federal Premium factory loads and one of the Hornady ELDX factory loads, don’t remember which ones. A couple of the groups were 1.75” at 100 yards, the rest were 2”-3” groups. The owner said he had tried a few other factory loads in addition to those with similar results. He contacted CA and sent it in, at their request. He has it bac after repair, but last I heard he has not shot it yet.
I tend to agree with BSA here, it is spec’d and priced as a premium rifle. Duds should be very few and far between.
I agree with you and BSA on CA supposed to be a premium rifle and should perform as such. The one I just purchased is slightly used and is a proven shooter. I only know 1 person (personally) that owns one (ridgeline) in 308 and he loves it. I have read a few negatives online about some of the CA rifles but nothing enough to make me swear them off forever. I currently own 4 Tikkas and they are all shooters. I have been waiting for a few years now for Tikka to produce the 6.5PRC in their T3X super lite but that does not seem to be happening. If they did, I would own one. Several years ago I did get a Tikka in 300wsm that didn't shoot up to what I consider Tikka's norm. Not terrible though.
I wanted something different and had been eyeing the Ridgeline rifles for a few years now and finally pulled the trigger on one. I'm anxious to see how it turns out.
I have a Ridgeline in 6.5 PRC. It shoots great! Before I bought this rifle, I called the company talked with this gentleman who was very nice. I asked him about their QC issues. He told me to buy with confidence. If that rifle didn't shoot, I had his personal guarantee he would make it right. Thank goodness, I didn't need to call this person back. They may have fixed their QC problem.
My rifle can put 5 rounds very tight at 100 yards. It's less than 1/2 MOA with handloads using Berger and Barnes bullets.
I’ve shot exactly one CA. It was the carbon fiber barreled, titanium action model in 300 Win Mag. I shot 3 different Federal Premium factory loads and one of the Hornady ELDX factory loads, don’t remember which ones. A couple of the groups were 1.75” at 100 yards, the rest were 2”-3” groups. The owner said he had tried a few other factory loads in addition to those with similar results. He contacted CA and sent it in, at their request. He has it bac after repair, but last I heard he has not shot it yet.
I tend to agree with BSA here, it is spec’d and priced as a premium rifle. Duds should be very few and far between.
I agree with you and BSA on CA supposed to be a premium rifle and should perform as such. The one I just purchased is slightly used and is a proven shooter. I only know 1 person (personally) that owns one (ridgeline) in 308 and he loves it. I have read a few negatives online about some of the CA rifles but nothing enough to make me swear them off forever. I currently own 4 Tikkas and they are all shooters. I have been waiting for a few years now for Tikka to produce the 6.5PRC in their T3X super lite but that does not seem to be happening. If they did, I would own one. Several years ago I did get a Tikka in 300wsm that didn't shoot up to what I consider Tikka's norm. Not terrible though.
I wanted something different and had been eyeing the Ridgeline rifles for a few years now and finally pulled the trigger on one. I'm anxious to see how it turns out.
I'm hoping your new ridgeline shoots like my buddies 6.5. His did very well with factory ammo during the recent break in we did with it. Good luck with it. Let us know how it works out for you, if you don't mind. Thanks
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
I view the 6.5 PRC as a sort of "modernized 270." I like SA cartridges, and it strikes me as a very good one. When I was contemplating a PRC my thought was to build one on a Winchester M70 or Kimber 8400 MT WSM action. But, I've lost my interest in reinventing the wheel with another cartridge so abandoned the idea. Were I a younger guy I'd think long and hard about a PRC - or, just get a 270
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If Frogman's Kelbly is anything like the Pandas or Kodiaks I have handled, it should be light years ahead of any of Tikka. Tolerances are tight enough on the two I mentioned that replacement barrels can be chambered at the factory and shipped to you to simply screw on. Action timing and trigger handoff are smooth as silk. People tend to be dismissive of what they don't understand, especially on the internet.
Thank you MikeS, yes tolerances are very precise and the feel in the hand is amazing. I was actually looking at building a 6.5 PRC from scratch and was researching components when it was suggested that I look at the Koda rifle instead of piecing one together with a Kelbly's action. The more I read, the more I was impressed with what they offered at that price point!
I understand about inexpensive rifles that punch way above their weight....my mentor Boyd Deets, sold me my first Deer rifle many years ago in Michigan. It was a Remington 788 in .308 Win. He promised me that for an inexpensive rifle, it could shoot.....and darn well at that. He was right! Still have that rifle.
Once upon a time, the whispered words of accuracy were "Minute of Angle". If your rifle could do it, you were fortunate. I'm not saying Tikka's can't shoot, as they do. My son has one in .300 Win Mag and we found handloads for it fairly easily that are sub MOA.
However, that Kelbly's Koda rifle has started out at .5 MOA with hastily thrown together handloads, and I've not had chance to work any further with load development, but am eagerly looking forward to it when time allows. As components are scarce it can be difficult finding what you want to use....but I have a supply of 4831SC and IMR 7828 on hand along with others to get me started. I put a Nightforce NX8 atop it in 4-32 and am sure that critters will succumb to it once I've finished setting her up, and dialed everything in.
I view the 6.5 PRC as a sort of "modernized 270." I like SA cartridges, and it strikes me as a very good one. When I was contemplating a PRC my thought was to build one on a Winchester M70 or Kimber 8400 MT WSM action. But, I've lost my interest in reinventing the wheel with another cartridge so abandoned the idea. Were I a younger guy I'd think long and hard about a PRC - or, just get a 270
Happy 4th!
Speaking for myself it it sounds like we are on a similar page.
Getting older, bunch of guns sitting around.
At this point the only practical $ issue is being tight.
It's gotten hard to buy guns. Everything that catches the eye gets shot down by, "What does it bring to the table that I don't have"
Or,
"A new round is gonna cost $200 + to load, and that's if I have powder and bullets on hand."
Lotta stuff catches the eye, Not much rises to the level of getting the wallet out.
Unless it's a bargain. Will buy darn near anything if it's a great deal
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
Funny how things are supposedly different but really are pretty much the same. The 6.5 Rem Mag born in 1966 as a short magnum was well ahead of its time, however at that time light weight bullets and speed were the selling points. Quite the opposite when considering today’s components of magazine length, heavy for caliber bullet desire, fast twist barrels and short case designs such as the 6.5 PRC. If only Remington designers had those initiatives and design thoughts when designing the 6.5 Rem Mag, it may have started the phase and desire of todays designs years ago. Case capacity is 68 gr of H20 on the 6.5 Rem Mag; the 6.5 PRC has 67.6 gr H20. Obviously powder development has played a role as well. Just as you have pointed out regarding the 270 Win, the 6.5 Rem Mag was in direct competition with the 270 Win, same as the 6.5 PRC is today. There must be something awfully good about the 270 Win.
I don't think the 6.5 Mag could have flourished the way The Creed and PRC have.
Timing is everything.
Velocity was everything then. Even the Creed suffered at first from its velocity numbers. Many still dont understand that the BC can overcome a velocity deficit.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
Being born in 1966 myself I always had a love of the 6.5 Rem Mag as a kid -- By the time I was old enough to start hunting it was on it's way out so I opted for a 264 Win Magnum. Loved that rifle but "Rifle Looney-ism" took over and have chased all over for different cartridges over the years -- and have come to love the old 270 WCF as just a classic great rifle for what I want to do.
But right now I feel the call of 6.5 PRC ... being in essence of short action 270 with sleeker bullets at the same weights .. and it is ALSO in essence the 6.5 Rem Mag in a better package (Twist, bullets, etc).
I am in the process of buying a Mauser M18 in 6.5 PRC and then going to see about finding the perfect lightweight 6.5 PRC. The APR rifle linked to here is very tempting as is the Seekins Element. The Mauser package seems to be a good place to start.
Have been away at the Lake for a few days, came back and glad to find this thread grew some legs. The small lake here in West TX (Lake Alan Henry) was very crowded with boaters and jet ski'ers, as expected, and I was very pleased to note that approximately 80% of boaters were flying either the "Let's Go Brandon" flag, or the more in your face "F&%k Joe Biden" flag.
The reason I laid it out in my OP is simple.....the 3 were easily and quickly available, at or under $1k, and were reported to be exceptionally accurate as anything costing at least twice as much. I also wanted one with a threaded barrel, as I've become a lover of hunting/shooting suppressed. I know Tikkas are, as I've had about 8 of them since 1998. If I were at all interested in spending $3k I would have said so. Not because I can't, but I don't even know if I'll like the cartridge. Bullet testing on hogs will determine how much I like how it kills. I'm 99.9% certain that won't be an issue.
A few years ago I began culling the unused rifles in my safe. I don't, and have never bought rifles to display, store, or impress others. They are simply tools to me. I had several old Sako's, Steyr's, etc that were sold. I still have a couple of customs, one in 7mag, the other 7mm08. I don't really desire any more. If I fall in love with the PRC, I'll likely go the Seekins route, or will likely just keep the Tikka as I highly anticipate it to be another Tikka tack driver.
Anyway, I bought Nathan's Tikka Roughtech here. Appreciate all the contributions here.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
Can't fault your choice, love the Tikkas I have. Hard to combine weight, trigger, accuracy, smoothness, for the $$$.
One thing about them. They lock the bolt and firing pin.
As a kid everything locked the bolt, and it seemed dumb and dangerous. Bought one of the first SS 700s, no bolt lock! I was happy. Until about the 3rd time the bolt either came open or I found it abhout to. Got a M7, same crap.
Now, the locked bolt isn't just a thing. It is a major feature sought out.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
Nothing wrong with a Tikka.. I have two.. 308 and 6.5x55.. both were 1" or better with factory ammo out of the box... 1/2" with loads.
I stumbled upon a 6.5 PRC in a BACO Winchester Extreme Weather when Grice was clearing out the 1st Gen (no muzzle break). It shoots Hornady precision Hunter ammo (143 ELD-X) so well, I haven't bothered to set up for reloading.
Well, I am thoroughly enjoying the Kelbly's Koda rifle in 6.5 PRC that I bought from them.
You'd be hard pressed to put together a better rifle for the money in my opinion.......
Frog----OUT!
I'm sure it's extremely nice. Wondering how much better it shoots than a Tikka though? I shoot with a lot of guys that run full on customs and I'll say my pretty much bone stock Tikka CTR shoots with the best of them. Yeah, I tinker and fine tune the bedding, but that's about it. I'm talking guys running 28"+ long heavy barrels and custom actions like Stiller, GAP, Bighorn, Defiance, and some others I can't think of right now. Most of those rifles are set up like a PRS match rifle and weigh 18+ pounds. Consistently though, the CTR holds its own and it is a pretty skinny barrel by comparison.. I think JG is wanting a good factory rifle, but I can't speak for him. Just wondering though, how much did your dollar really get you???
Sometimes it ain't all about the accuracy. My Tikka's were accurate as hell, but mostly I wanted other things in my hunting rifles they don't have
I haven't changed out a Tikka recoil pad since replacing the one on my Tikka 695 7mag. Which Limbsaver are you guys using on the T3X?
This doesn't answer your question, but aren't the T3X supposed to be a good upgrade from the T3? I just run them, however the Limbsaver will probably help a bit with recoil? Pharmy would know. He replaces his.. Cool you bought that rifle. I like that stock so much that I bought one on ebay. Lucked out and snagged one for $79.00 and it is NIB. I'm hoping your new rifle shoots like a house afire. Keep us posted!!!
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Have been away at the Lake for a few days, came back and glad to find this thread grew some legs. The small lake here in West TX (Lake Alan Henry) was very crowded with boaters and jet ski'ers, as expected, and I was very pleased to note that approximately 80% of boaters were flying either the "Let's Go Brandon" flag, or the more in your face "F&%k Joe Biden" flag.
The reason I laid it out in my OP is simple.....the 3 were easily and quickly available, at or under $1k, and were reported to be exceptionally accurate as anything costing at least twice as much. I also wanted one with a threaded barrel, as I've become a lover of hunting/shooting suppressed. I know Tikkas are, as I've had about 8 of them since 1998. If I were at all interested in spending $3k I would have said so. Not because I can't, but I don't even know if I'll like the cartridge. Bullet testing on hogs will determine how much I like how it kills. I'm 99.9% certain that won't be an issue.
A few years ago I began culling the unused rifles in my safe. I don't, and have never bought rifles to display, store, or impress others. They are simply tools to me. I had several old Sako's, Steyr's, etc that were sold. I still have a couple of customs, one in 7mag, the other 7mm08. I don't really desire any more. If I fall in love with the PRC, I'll likely go the Seekins route, or will likely just keep the Tikka as I highly anticipate it to be another Tikka tack driver.
Anyway, I bought Nathan's Tikka Roughtech here. Appreciate all the contributions here.
I can't imagine that you won't like the 6.5 PRC, especially if you hand load. Even with my slaughtered shooting shoulder, recoil is very manageable. It's much like the Creed in that it's accurate with damn near any load.
Scrubbed the brand new bore, JB'd, then the good stuff....Dyna Tec Bore Coat. Will probably bed the lug just because. Mount up a reliable Tract Toric 3-15x, start off with Norma factory 143gr match ammo to see what I've got. On to load development when it cools off some.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
I like the 6.5 prc. It's practical cartridge evolution, blending the compact short action of a 260 rem or 7mm-08 and the 270 win/280 rem powder capacity, which is plenty.
With wsm mag boxes, you can fit 4 cartridges under an empty chamber.
No rebated rims or belts or excessively sharp shoulders, the 6.5 prc/300 rcm/338 rcm family of cartridges feed wonderfully, even in CRF actions.
Though supplies are short, with Lapua making 6.5 prc brass, the entirety of the package is now legit.
I suspect the 6.5 PRC will become a new standard. It's already gaining popularity that's hard to ignore.......
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