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Heads really will explode

Thomas says they should reconsider same sex marriage and contraception guarantees by Feds...


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Queers should be unceremoniously thrown out of the military, along with most of the women.


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The .gov of any stripe has no business being involved in marriage. Straight/gay/same sex, or not.


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it's sure gonna make heads explode


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I am with Teal on this. Gays should have every right to fugk up their lives by just like straight people

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
I am with Teal on this. Gays should have every right to fugk up their lives by just like straight people

I think you may have misunderstood my point.

I don't want the government - be it local, state or federal, to have a damned thing to do with marriage of any type. Not in the constitution that I'm aware of.

You want to get married - find a church/religion that will marry you - bam, married. Plenty of those around to handle all possible permutations.

Divorce? - Small claims court for division of property. Family court for custody. Done. Those already exist but they aren't necessary to GET married.


I would never invite a cop to "come in and look around" - never invite the man into your life. Why are we so quick to invite the .gov into marriage?


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Originally Posted by Teal
The .gov of any stripe has no business being involved in marriage. Straight/gay/same sex, or not.

I agree.
Folks can enter into “domestic partnerships” for legal purposes. What most consider “marriage”, the gov has no business being involved in.


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Originally Posted by worriedman
Heads really will explode

Thomas says they should reconsider same sex marriage and contraception guarantees by Feds...
Yesterday, I posted on a thread here that this needs to be next. It's equally bad law.

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Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Queers should be unceremoniously thrown out of the military, along with most of the women.


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Queers should be unceremoniously thrown out of the military, along with most of the women.


Agree

Yep. Women make good nurses.


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I’d like the SC to look at the Bolt decision and tribal treaty status in general.


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Originally Posted by Teal
I don't want the government - be it local, state or federal, to have a damned thing to do with marriage of any type.

I disagree completely. Marriage is now and always has been, in principle, intended to secure a future for children, which is pointless between two people of the same sex.

There are people who have tirelessly promoted this idea that gays should marry. They do this specifically to damage Western Civilization. Those people should be resisted with every available resource.

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Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by Teal
I don't want the government - be it local, state or federal, to have a damned thing to do with marriage of any type.

I disagree completely. Marriage is now and always has been, in principle, intended to secure a future for children, which is pointless between two people of the same sex.

There are people who have tirelessly promoted this idea that gays should marry. They do this specifically to damage Western Civilization. Those people should be resisted with every available resource.
Spot on.

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Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by Teal
I don't want the government - be it local, state or federal, to have a damned thing to do with marriage of any type.

I disagree completely. Marriage is now and always has been, in principle, intended to secure a future for children, which is pointless between two people of the same sex.

There are people who have tirelessly promoted this idea that gays should marry. They do this specifically to damage Western Civilization. Those people should be resisted with every available resource.

They are not connected. If the .gov had zero business in marriage - the push for gay marriage, basically doesn't exist. Goes to zero.

People can get married in whatever church they'd like - again, the .gov stays out. Historical marriage can and would continue to happen without .gov interference - same as it did forever before the .gov decided they wanted their piece of it (marriage license fee/tax) . Of what value is the government to "secure a future for children"? None. Hetero marriage or not.


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I'm a liberatarian, I don't give a chit.... and in the same breath I don't want my kids being exposed to their bullchit propaganda at every turn in society. I really don't understand why they just couldn't be happy with "civil unions".... at that point it was just the term "marriage" that they were after. Like someone else said , it's all about the destruction of western civilization.

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Originally Posted by MadMooner
I’d like the SC to look at the Bolt decision and tribal treaty status in general.
I'm with you, talk about heads exploding!!

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It seems to me that this is another Tenth Amendment issue. No such authority is given the the central government...at least, not that I can see.


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For all the "I don't care what they do in their bedroom" folks... YOU are the problem. Evil should not be tolerated. Period. Look what happens when phaeggotry is tolerated. You gave them an inch....and wonder why they took a mile.

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Originally Posted by Teal
They are not connected.

The word "matrimony" derives from the Latin word for "mother". You lolberterians live in a fantasy world.

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Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by Teal
They are not connected.

The word "matrimony" derives from the Latin word for "mother". You lolberterians live in a fantasy world.

Marriage is between you, spouse and God. (via your Church)

Marriage is not connected to nor is it derived from the government. At all. Full stop. Mother =/= Government - unless you're a "it takes a village" Hillary type who believes the parents have no say/sway.

The government involvement has ZERO to do with "guaranteeing a future for children" - The government did NOT recognize marriage under law until the Revenue act of 1913. What does that have to do with marriage? (TAXES not "Securing Children") Compare the sanctity of marriage before 1913 and after....

Government involvement in marriage is what created the push for gay marriage. Equality under the secular rule/instrument.

Had .gov stayed out of marriage and left it to a person's individual Church - they'd not push for it.

Of what redeeming value is there in having the government involved in your marriage. I'll wait. I can understand it involved in dissolution of "a" marriage - whatever that might be within your own church -division of property/child custody but in CREATING the marriage? They offer nothing but a pathway to what we have now - determining who can/can not get married, how and when and who MUST recognize it.

I'll wait while you explain to me why the government has any input on marriage that makes sense in any way/shape or form. Seriously - I want to learn. Explain to me why having the government involved in a union between me, the wife and God via our Priest is better than NOT having the government involved.


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