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Originally Posted by EdM
I replaced the factory trigger on my Bergara B-14R with a TT Diamond and the result is night and day better.

Have you used Jewell triggers? They're the only model of the triggers discussed to far where I've definitely noticed a difference in "pull quality."
But am not crazy about them for general big-game triggers.

The one Bergara I've owned so far had a Trigger Tech, though it was not the Diamond model. They use both TT and Timneys.


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I have two Jewell's on 700's for a varmint rifle and also a "beanfield rifle" both set at 16 oz and I think they are excellent, on two hunting 700's I have a Walker at 2 3/4 lb and an X Mark Pro Adjustable set at 2 3/4 lbs ...both I am very happy with and won't be changing.

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Somebody do work on the X Mark Pro?


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All I did was adjust the screw that goes through the top of the trigger (just above where your finger sits)...it's the adjustable version.

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Have mine almost all the way out.

Not much of a change from most of the way in.

Been thinking about a TT.

This is on a Custom Shop NA Custom which supposedly had a 40X trigger in it.

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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Have mine almost all the way out.

Not much of a change from most of the way in.

Been thinking about a TT.

This is on a Custom Shop NA Custom which supposedly had a 40X trigger in it.
Do you know what poundage it breaks at?

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Guess 3.5#+

More than I care for. Prefer 2-3#.


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In that case, as the adjustment screw won't get you where you want, then rather than spend money on it, I'd get a Timney or TT in that situation.

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What I figure I will do.

Wonder if the Trigger Tech has a good wide face like the Walker style? Much preferred over skinny triggers.


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Trigger Tech has a shoe similar to the Timney THIN model.

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10Guauge, to get the weight down to 2 3/4 pounds on the X Mark Pro Adjustable trigger, the barreled action can be taken out of the stock after checking that there is no ammunition in the chamber. At the front of the trigger there is an allen screw covered in (blue?) epoxy. If you take this barreled action to a competent gunsmith, he may take off this epoxy, to expose this allen screw. If the gunsmith decides it is safe to do so, he may turn this allen screw counter-clockwise slightly to reduce the trigger weight. The gunsmith (and not anybody else) should only adjust slightly, perhaps 1/4 of a turn then measure trigger pull and he should not try to get below 2 3/4 lbs for safety. To be safe only a gunsmith should do this, and he should check that the trigger and safety mechanism is safe after he does the adjustment, there is a reason why there is epoxy on this. The other screw on the trigger shoe can be turned in by the gunsmith to be flush with the trigger shoe, before the adjustment is done (this will make the trigger slightly heavier) so it's not interfering with your finger when you pull the trigger. I repeat the warning; only a competent gunsmith should do this adjustment for safety reasons.

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I love them! I really like the ease of adjusting pull in the field. I.E. I like a very light pull "until" it gets really cold, then my old hands get stiff and I have had a light trigger go off before I was ready. I can crank up that TT to 3+ pounds and carry on. BUT, I had a beautiful Shilen Trigger in my old Mod 700 Classic 35 Whelan AI lock up on me just out in the high desert where I go to shoot. I had just got out of the truck, but it was dusty, kind of hot, and it bumfuzzled me. I take it straight to to my gunsmith, it had a "tiny piece of Sage Leaf" lock it up! Trigger Techs are almost impossible to gum/crud up due to their design. So, it depends on how OCD you are about reliability...I am waaay over the edge on that subject, ha.

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I've transitioned to TT triggers in my rifles, exclusively, and I've owned and/or used all sorts of Timney, Shilen, Jewell, RB, etc. The quality, user-friendliness, and service support I've received is all first-class.

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I have one 700 left that doesn't have a trigger tech. I've put them in a lot of 700's, Sevens, and 700 clones over the last couple of years. I like the closed design, ease of installation, ease of adjustment, different options (color/bolt release), the availability, and the frequentness of sale prices....oh yeah, the "pull" is nice as well. I wouldn't rate the "pull" as that much better than others (for hunting rifles), but when taken together, the things I listed previously have made them my preference.

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Originally Posted by Riflehunter
10Guauge, to get the weight down to 2 3/4 pounds on the X Mark Pro Adjustable trigger, the barreled action can be taken out of the stock after checking that there is no ammunition in the chamber. At the front of the trigger there is an allen screw covered in (blue?) epoxy. If you take this barreled action to a competent gunsmith, he may take off this epoxy, to expose this allen screw. If the gunsmith decides it is safe to do so, he may turn this allen screw counter-clockwise slightly to reduce the trigger weight. The gunsmith (and not anybody else) should only adjust slightly, perhaps 1/4 of a turn then measure trigger pull and he should not try to get below 2 3/4 lbs for safety. To be safe only a gunsmith should do this, and he should check that the trigger and safety mechanism is safe after he does the adjustment, there is a reason why there is epoxy on this. The other screw on the trigger shoe can be turned in by the gunsmith to be flush with the trigger shoe, before the adjustment is done (this will make the trigger slightly heavier) so it's not interfering with your finger when you pull the trigger. I repeat the warning; only a competent gunsmith should do this adjustment for safety reasons.
Sounds a lot like the same screw on a Walker style trigger.


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Originally Posted by jwp475
Shilen makes an excellent trigger for the 700
Thats the way we went. Of course keeping the old Walker triggers. But thats another story


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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
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10Guauge, to get the weight down to 2 3/4 pounds on the X Mark Pro Adjustable trigger, the barreled action can be taken out of the stock after checking that there is no ammunition in the chamber. At the front of the trigger there is an allen screw covered in (blue?) epoxy. If you take this barreled action to a competent gunsmith, he may take off this epoxy, to expose this allen screw. If the gunsmith decides it is safe to do so, he may turn this allen screw counter-clockwise slightly to reduce the trigger weight. The gunsmith (and not anybody else) should only adjust slightly, perhaps 1/4 of a turn then measure trigger pull and he should not try to get below 2 3/4 lbs for safety. To be safe only a gunsmith should do this, and he should check that the trigger and safety mechanism is safe after he does the adjustment, there is a reason why there is epoxy on this. The other screw on the trigger shoe can be turned in by the gunsmith to be flush with the trigger shoe, before the adjustment is done (this will make the trigger slightly heavier) so it's not interfering with your finger when you pull the trigger. I repeat the warning; only a competent gunsmith should do this adjustment for safety reasons.
Sounds a lot like the same screw on a Walker style trigger.
The Walker trigger has two slotted screws at the front, the X Mark Pro Adjustable has a single allen screw at the front in approximately the same place. There is also a sear engagement screw at the back of the X Mark Pro Adjustable trigger that the gunsmith should not touch.

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Originally Posted by Riflehunter
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10Guauge, to get the weight down to 2 3/4 pounds on the X Mark Pro Adjustable trigger, the barreled action can be taken out of the stock after checking that there is no ammunition in the chamber. At the front of the trigger there is an allen screw covered in (blue?) epoxy. If you take this barreled action to a competent gunsmith, he may take off this epoxy, to expose this allen screw. If the gunsmith decides it is safe to do so, he may turn this allen screw counter-clockwise slightly to reduce the trigger weight. The gunsmith (and not anybody else) should only adjust slightly, perhaps 1/4 of a turn then measure trigger pull and he should not try to get below 2 3/4 lbs for safety. To be safe only a gunsmith should do this, and he should check that the trigger and safety mechanism is safe after he does the adjustment, there is a reason why there is epoxy on this. The other screw on the trigger shoe can be turned in by the gunsmith to be flush with the trigger shoe, before the adjustment is done (this will make the trigger slightly heavier) so it's not interfering with your finger when you pull the trigger. I repeat the warning; only a competent gunsmith should do this adjustment for safety reasons.
Sounds a lot like the same screw on a Walker style trigger.
The Walker trigger has two slotted screws at the front, the X Mark Pro Adjustable has a single allen screw at the front in approximately the same place. There is also a sear engagement screw at the back of the X Mark Pro Adjustable trigger that the gunsmith should not touch.
Correct. I always adjusted the bottom screw, the one closest to the trigger.


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I have converted about 6 rifles to TT. I really like them and the ease of adjustment is unreal.


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I have a Bix n Andy, TT Diamond and Geissele 700. They are all great but the BixAndy is my favorite. I can adjust the sear and it greatly improves the smoothness of the bolt. The TT breaks like glass but has zero over travel. I like the slightest over travel after the break. The Bix is everything I like in a trigger. Every trigger will be an upgrade over a factory rem x mark tho.

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