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Ain't no wonder prepping & bugout supplies are so popular & the movement started out yonder.

The projections of major problems seem to be very near, not some Al Gore schit that might happen 30 years from now.

Good luck y'all !!

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We’re in the worst drought in 1,200 years; it’s going to leave a mark.

It’ll rain again, some day.

Have you started dancing yet?

I leave that to the pretty girls…. Win-win.

Our little corner of SouthEast Idaho is peculiar….. in La Niña years, like now, we are usually a little below normal in precipitation. Then, in El Niño years, we tend to be just below average. The only time we are statistically above average is in “La Nada” years (ENSO-neutral). I’m hoping those monsoon storms Tikka is enjoying start making it all the way up here. Those are the good years.

Local irrigation district just started using storage water from Bear Lake with the allotment to the farmer of about 50 days (out of 90 days irrigating left) of water to finish the year. A little early in the season, but wheat and Trit will come off irrigation pretty quick, so most people will be fine.


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Matt's Off Road Recovery......

Staying busy with the Lake Powell recoveries


upper wahweap or upper warm creek!


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...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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Page AZ

still open.........

Then stop in Kanab at 'Escabar's' Mexixican joint

https://www.ksl.com/article/5043090...-were-still-open-local-businesses-insist

when in Kanab, get the chicken-fried steak at Houstons Trails End!


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...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/california-regulator-rejects-plan-desalination-plant-2022-05-13/

California just shot down a desalination plant a couple months ago. I just wish we could fence them off so once their liberal utopia collapses, they can’t escape.

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For sake of informed discussion, “reclaimed” and “re-use” are very different treatment standards.


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That's true DD. Vegas area uses reuse water which is minimally treated sanitary sewer water for park and golf course irrigation. The rest of the sewage is fully treated to drinking water quality and returned to the lake. We get credit for what is returned to Lake Mead and it doesn't count against our Colorado River allotment.
The Vegas Valley uses less water today than was used in 2002 with about 780,000 more people here now.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by WYcoyote
A pipeline from the Great Lakes over the Continental Divide to the Green/Colorado River is unbelievably ridiculous.
Imagine the capacity it would take to replace the flow of these rivers.
We can't even get our current government to build a pipeline to pump oil at $110+ a barrel.
What do you think a barrel of water is worth?
It would be quite an undertaking and I am certainly not qualified to say whether it could be done but I believe it could. We have a huge population of people terribly short of water and we go off to the mid-east and Europe and spend trillions of dollars on savages that couldn't maintain a stable government in a thousand years.

Uphill all the way from MN to the continental divide.

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Originally Posted by Hastings
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they say it will be at deadpool stage in less than 8 years at this rate

I understand people have varied levels of sympathy for western water tables and water rights, but that is the bread basket of this country.

I am surprised congress hasn't proposed a water pipeline, say from the mouth of the Mississippi thru a series of lakes with giant pumping stations in an attempt to maintain levels. Maybe that is pie in the sky and the cost would be outrageous, but we do it with oil pipelines.

I see all that flood water in the spring along the Mississippi and wonder why we don't try to capture it in some way.
Reckon it would be possible to transfer Great Lakes water over the divide? There is a fairly low elevation pass up around the area of West Yellowstone. Surely if we can spend trillions on the crap we already do we could move lake water in huge aqueducts.
Get your own dam lake. These are taken.


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“Jake….

It’s just…. Chinatown…”

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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
You can not steal water from the Columbia or the Mississippi, because in either case it would destroy the estuary. And also, it would give California standing to sue for water rights.
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Why is it we never hear about the disaster created when the Colorado River flows were stopped?
One of if not the largest man has ever made

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I only just discovered their videos. Lizzie intrigues me.


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Originally Posted by bbassi
Get your own dam lake. These are taken.
If you had extra water you wouldn't want to spare some? I know it won't happen. Our money goes to fight wars overseas. We have 1/3 of our country that desperately needs water and 1/3 of our country that very often has too much water. I wish to hell my state could send our floods to the arid west. 30 or more percent of this state went under in 2016.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
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Get your own dam lake. These are taken.
If you had extra water you wouldn't want to spare some? I know it won't happen. Our money goes to fight wars overseas. We have 1/3 of our country that desperately needs water and 1/3 of our country that very often has too much water. I wish to hell my state could send our floods to the arid west. 30 or more percent of this state went under in 2016.
This is the first thing that comes to mind when we talk about western water issues.


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Time for new landscaping, desalinization and nukes.

Domestic water needs to come from those sources, leave what's left for irrigated ag. Never mind the Ogalalla aquifer is being drawn down and that's gonna bite soon enough.


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Early 90's or thereabouts there was talk of caliotoe wanting to pipe Snake River or Columbia River water south.

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Originally Posted by bbassi
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Get your own dam lake. These are taken.
If you had extra water you wouldn't want to spare some? I know it won't happen. Our money goes to fight wars overseas. We have 1/3 of our country that desperately needs water and 1/3 of our country that very often has too much water. I wish to hell my state could send our floods to the arid west. 30 or more percent of this state went under in 2016.
This is the first thing that comes to mind when we talk about western water issues.
Great.

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Originally Posted by Jerryv
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
No one in their right mind moves millions of people into an arid area without a sustainable water supply.

Fixed it for you.


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Yep. Pretty stupid.

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Most things that california touches goes to hell.

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Too little water, too many people.

Fix one or the other.

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