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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by JeffA
Originally Posted by SKane
Do you still think there's a bear that stands at least 14ft tall?
That all depends on who's looking at it.

I once had a bear that almost measured 8ft from tip of nose to tip of tail.
I had him mounted standing, that added about 20 inches.
I used a fake rock for a base, that added 16 inches.

So then my almost 8 ft bear required a room with 12 ft ceilings to display.

I later sold the mount, in my ad I made note that the mount required a room with minumum of a 12 ft ceiling but didn't mention the actual measurements of the bear.

The savvy types, including the man that purchased it quickly took note of the base height and commented that without the base it was really only a 10ft bear.

I'd just replied with, 'sure he is'.

So could someone honestly say they've seen a 14ft bear mount?

Sure they could.
So the times we watched an 8' Kodiak being mounted by a 9' boar was actually a 17' mount? And we were not adding a phony base, either.
Not with the overlap.


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Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by MLC
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Interesting way to measure length.

Every bit helps!
even interesting on width a bit too
Stretching like heck on top of that. kind of amazed me to see the hide get bigger for a bit after salted too.


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Stretch wide and hold: measure.

Stretch long and hold: measure.

LOL


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Originally Posted by JeffA
Originally Posted by SKane
Paragraph Pete was clearly referring to a bear in-the-wild standing 14ft.

And you think he got a live, wild 14ft bear to stand and be still while he climbed a ladder and pulled a tape on him?
Have you not read PP's previous posts?

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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Measuring skulls and squaring hides is a good way to compare bear sizes. Checking B&C records is a good way to see where the largest bears come from.
Watching bs animal planet shows done by exaggerating film makers doesn't provide anything of use!

Neither do trophy books in my opinion. Pissing contest. YMMV.


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Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by waterrat
Most of us that have been guideing brown bears for decades have killed some huge bears,, there are some outfits that always add a foot and some make an almost 9' into a 10+ with ease. That's why trophy size is measured on the skull measurments! Here's a Shuyak bear that we could have called 11' but layed out he was 10'3".[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Gotta measure the hide on the diagonal!

Use the metric system, in cm! smile


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Originally Posted by ironbender
Stretch wide and hold: measure.

Stretch long and hold: measure.

LOL


Ironbender, you are not kidding. You are around long enough to know that is exactly how it is all to frequently done, much stretching.

My Boone and Crocket Brown bear rivals this one in size and is maybe larger in body sized. Laid out flat, no stretching or anyone tugging on it an honest 10' 10", front paw 9 7/8", front claw length 5". D.&C. Expediters in Anchorage, if they are even still in business, said it was not the largest head to go thru their shop but the largest cape they have had in their shop. Dick Gunlogson was in there while I was dropping " Cub Killer " off and he too said it was the largest body size he had seen. Fish and Game later sent me a post card aging the boar at over 20 years old. Boar had lots of character in terms of many fighting scars on its face. Last time I checked still the largest bear ever taken on Afognak island draw hunt. Non Resident draw was 2 Fall permits and 2 Spring permits.

I have video of the bear being taken, high quality for its time and video of the bear being laid out for measuring, massive.


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Man, I’d hate to run up on a 10’ bear face to face. I’d have a heart attack lol

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There is a reason skulls are what's used for trophy judging. They can't be stretched!
Although there is a difference between how AK F&G and B&C measure only the skull and SCI includes the lower jaw, they can not be stretched like a hide.


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Late to the party. Damn what a bear!


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