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Good on him smart boy

My nephew asked my about doing when he graduated a few months. I advised no way. It will take a decade to fix the military. and with Neo Cons and Neo Libs wanting constant needless wars and canton fodder no way should a young adult serve now in the US military .


All my former friends still in are pulling plug when eligible and they are the warrior types the military needs,

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I have buds still who are career counselors. One was telling me these youngsters are going to Ets. As they say Army is to woke. So he was getting beat up by higher ups, I told him put that in your notes. Tell them what the joes are telling you. Put it in their lap let them deal with it. As of last week, CSM (command sergeant majors)had to call soldiers who were on terminal leave and ask if they still want to reenlist. I do know the active component is sucking ass far as retention. On another note those kids coming in with no high school diploma/can’t pass the asvab etc. will be put into the [bleep] mos’s the army has to offer. 92A, 92F, 92S etc. they will never see SGT points are always 798. Majority will do 3 yrs get out. No diploma if they intend on making the Army a career before they reenlist they will need to get a ged or high school diploma.

My son received a counseling over his decision to not re-enlist. That was at the company level (?) had to go do paperwork on it. His CSM called him and asked him if he would as the CSM really likes him personally. Boy said "I'm not going to lie, there's nothing the Army could offer that would get me to stay. There's nothing here for me and I want to simply get on with my life."

CSM respected that transparency.

He's not getting out over the wokeness - he's getting out over the horrible leadership at the NCO level and given NCO's basically "make" junior enlisted - it's there too.

He's a good kid, smart and mature for his age - he just sees a broken system and wants no part of it.

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Never fear, the Bidet and Zero will make our military illegal and Querre.

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Pretty sad situation for our country. I always assumed that I would encourage my son to give the military a look when the time come. Not now. No way. The country is in absolute shambles right now.

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Back when queers were quiet and times were good, the military was a good path. Politicizing the military is suicidal.

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I just watched a YouTube video that reviewed the Navy report dissecting the Seawolf class sub Connecticut's running into an underground mountain. The degradation in professionalism since my time in the boats, and the sheer incompetence, was staggering. If that situation was close to being typical, we're in a lot worse shape than I thought. Most people would not realize how things really were before enlisting, but would have their eyes wide open by the time reenlistment was an option.

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I spent 4 exceedingly busy years in the Air Force (62-66) . I have no regrets. I lost a couple of close friends to on duty accidents (explosions due to the rigors of SAC training schedule). We were very poorly paid back then. We were offered decent bonus's to re-up, but you can't [bleep] someone after 4 years of personal participation !! The Military is poorly managed, & I expect always will be !! The VETERANS ADM is "just crap". My wife worked there for 10 years in management ! You can't fire the employees for anything, except stealing. For GOD's sake, don't let the VA treat you for anything serious. They hire Doctors that can't get work elsewhere because they have a bad record & can't afford the MALPRACTICE INS. The VA covers them for free. Now the Air Force is paying enlistment bonus's. The DRAFT would stop that !!!!


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The military attracts the do gooders, the try harders, and the careerists. That means if you introduce woke LBGQT…what the frick ever … into as a good thing to not only tolerated but celebrated, the results will be very predictable. The do gooders will try to make sure that their commands are extra welcoming because well…you know, it’s a good thing. The try harders are going to make sure that they try harder at doing good than anyone else. And the careerists are damned well make sure that the are more LGBTQ friendly than anybody else so that they get the best OERs and make rank below the zone.

With these factors at play, before you know it not only is the military woke and gay, it’s more woke and more gay than just about anywhere else.

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I see it as fewer soldiers to be the enforcers of tyranny against the American people.

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I teach NJROTC and I did not encourage a single one if this years graduates to join any branch. I told all my students that I would not want to serve under the current regime. We did have 2 join the USN and one join the USMC but on an average year we will have 9 or 10 sign up.


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They will lower the standards

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
The military attracts the do gooders, the try harders, and the careerists. That means if you introduce woke LBGQT…what the frick ever … into as a good thing to not only tolerated but celebrated, the results will be very predictable. The do gooders will try to make sure that their commands are extra welcoming because well…you know, it’s a good thing. The try harders are going to make sure that they try harder at doing good than anyone else. And the careerists are damned well make sure that the are more LGBTQ friendly than anybody else so that they get the best OERs and make rank below the zone.

With these factors at play, before you know it not only is the military woke and gay, it’s more woke and more gay than just about anywhere else.
Good explanation for much of the right as a whole when compared to the left and the lefts more militant mindset.

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Originally Posted by Stophel
I see it as fewer soldiers to be the enforcers of tyranny against the American people.


Yeah, I was kinda thinking the same thing. Fewer enemy obstacles to contend with on the coming battlefield.


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Originally Posted by slumlord
Nobody want to be in Army with fàgs.

Not sure about the Navy.

ROFLMAO...


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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I was in Richmond (Mechanicsville) just yesterday...

Went by a Veteran Cemetery and saw WWI and prior tombstones (Privates mostly)...

Was reflecting on the life of a young man in Flanders Fields in 1916+/-...

What were his hopes and dreams... vs. the hopes and dreams of a young man/woman in 2022.

Much strangeness in the world today... much.


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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