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Going to run some paper patched 231 grain .358's today with 33 grains of IMR 4064 , they end up patched at .367 so they should work fine :>) Cat Well, today was pretty interesting to say the least! My psper patched 358's performed pretty danged well at 50 yards , but I need to put more powder in them I think . Group was about 5 inches. So the system has potential .:>) Cat
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Cat, Were they printing high or low, and did you let the barrels cool for 20-30 minutes between shots? I have a trick for cooling them that costs a bit, but it speeds up sighting in. I take the warmed barrels off and the forend off, then I spray them with starting fluid outside. Warm/hot combo gun barrels tell you only to what extent they wander when warm, and it can be a lot. I'm real interested in your patched bullet results and welcome more results. 
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Cat, Were they printing high or low, and did you let the barrels cool for 20-30 minutes between shots? I have a trick for cooling them that costs a bit, but it speeds up sighting in. I take the warmed barrels off and the forend off, then I spray them with starting fluid outside. Warm/hot combo gun barrels tell you only to what extent they wander when warm, and it can be a lot. I'm real interested in your patched bullet results and welcome more results.  Oh, this barrel is pretty thin so it heats up pretty quick but cools down really fast as well! I did some testing with the warmer and colder shots with the heavier bullets and the difference on group size is about 2" at 50 yards, but shooting offhand I really didn't notice a point of impact shift because I was still having g some neck tension issues. That is straightened out now. My paper patched bullet shooting today had a best group of 3 1/2 inches . Loaded some more and going out tomorrow again :>) Cat
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Well, things are looking better again! I went back to the big 293 grain,powder coated cast bullets, but changed up the load a bit. I went back to 33.5 grains of powder, but used soome wasp nest as a filler! Eniviromentlyy friendly and all that, it is light, and is easily inserted into the case. Seems to work well for stopping the bloopers I was experiencing occasionally , and the accuracy seems better. Velocity is down a bit again, so I will add another 1/2 grain and see whatt happens. Hope springs Internal ! LOL Cat ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/TtaS1wD.jpg)
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The 9.3x72R mostly had a pretty slow twist that worked well with lighter bullets. I made up a swaging die to bump 180 grain Speer 35 Remington bullets up to .366 and they shot great in my 9.3x72s. I also changed the point shape a bit . Shot a few deer & hogs with them. I Could hold under an inch at 50 with iron sights.
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Well, things are getting better. I went back to the cast and powder coated 293's, offhad accuracy is acceptable at 50 yards and 100 yards now. I neck size the brass in the 9.3X74R dies, just a very slight bell, drop in 33 grains of IMR 4895 with a strip about 1 1/2"X1/2" of wasp nest rolled up and set just on top of the powder. I then thumb seat the bullet as far as I can , then push it into the chamber and close it up. This seats the bullet hard into the lands and smooths out the expanded case mouth. I can then take the cartridge out with my ginger and store in in the ammo box. Velocity is just under 1/700 FPS Th two low shots in the group were shot with not a high enough front sight picture, I have taken the front sight down a bit and will try again. Cat ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/Ri4dQGq.jpg)
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just when I thought I was finished buying rifles a drilling popped up that I had to have! 16X16 over 9.3x72R, hammer gun made by Bohler Stahl with a box of Sellior &Bellot ammo . Then a friend lucked into another 2 1/2booxes of RWS for me at a show this weekend! I have shot pheasants and Sharptails and Ruffed grouse with the shotgun barrels but haven't had a chance to kill a deer with the 9.3 barrel yet. I have all of November to get that f]done though, and at 100 yards it is quite capable of that from what II have seen from my offhand targets. Cat [ Linked Image] ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/okr57gC.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/liRXcpY.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/gl7rAvp.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/DUGVtwe.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/zJAdNM8.jpg) been looking at a single shot 9.3, where to find ammo?
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