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We all love the huge win that the NYSRPA case brought to 2nd A supporters. Today it got much better. 4 other 2nd A cases were appealed to SCOTUS and waiting on a writ of certiorari to see if if 4 or more Justices agree to hear the appeal. Most cases do not get "granted cert" and the ruling of the lower court stands. Today all 4 cases were Granted, Vacated, and Remanded (GVRed) back to the lower courts for new rulings in compliance with the process layed out in the NYSRPA case for 2nd A cases. This means that SCOTUS determined the cases were decided wrong and the lower courts must fix that according to the rules set out in NYSRPA. The text of the 2nd A and historical traditions of restrictions. No kind of balancing review such as intermediate or strict scutiny. The cases GVRed are: Cali Mag Ban. Maryland AWB. HI open carry ban. NJ mag ban. Some of us were hoping SCOTUS would grant cert and hear the cases but this is even better. Major pee pee slap to all those lower appeals court. It's basically winning a sumary judgement. Today was a very good day.  SCOTUS GVRed all the 2nd A casesAlong those lines, the Supreme Court today GVR’d (granted cert, vacated the lower court rulings and remanded for reconsideration) the following cases in which the lower courts had upheld the gun control laws in question.
Young v. Hawaii — Challenges Hawaii’s ban on open carry as infringing citizens’ Second Amendment right to bear firearms outside the home.
Bianchi v. Frosh — Challenges Maryland’s “assault weapons” ban under Heller’s common use language.
ANJRPC v. Grewal — Challenges New Jersey’s “high capacity” magazine ban for violating the Second Amendment, the takings clause of the Fifth Amendment, and the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Duncan v. Bonta — Challenges California’s “high capacity” magazine ban as violating the Second and Fifth Amendments as well as the two-step interest-balancing process explicitly repudiated in the Bruen ruling.
The Court’s disposition of these cases today represents the first significant crack in the foundation that lower courts have built in the last 14 years to prop up gun control laws while violating the Heller decision and the Second Amendment.
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How will this affect the WA mag ban that goes into effect tomorrow?
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Has that one gone to court under a lawsuit and been upheld yet?
Odds are, if the CA one gets overturned, that will be precedent for overturning the other State's versions.
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That is outstanding news. Many thanks for posting!
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Not yet as far as im aware. Those things take time.
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How will this affect the WA mag ban that goes into effect tomorrow? Hopefully somebody with standing in WA will file for a TRO pending the 9th Circuits new decision on the Cali ban.
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The Dem's in communist run states don't intend to follow recently upheld or overturned laws as they apply to the constitution and have stated so. Also don't hold your breath waiting for federal law enforcement agency's to force them to.
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The times they are a changing.
(Ha, and some say nothing is being done - clueless) You got it, bro.  Kari Lake is getting my dough.
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A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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The Dem's in communist run states don't intend to follow recently upheld or overturned laws as they apply to the constitution and have stated so. Also don't hold your breath waiting for federal law enforcement agency's to force them to. Nah, I'm waiting for Trump's return to the WH after the Nov election and swing states decertifying their EC votes.
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If MD goes does DC to since it is historically part of MD?
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More W,GoT, RoG! Wailing, gnashing of teeth, and rending of garments.  I LOVE IT!
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If MD goes does DC to since it is historically part of MD? Both DC and MD are in the 4th Circuit. The 4th now has to rule consistant with SCOTUS rules for 2nd A cases. If the 4th Curcuit now rules properly then it wuld be a slam dunk that anyone with standing in DC would win an easy case. As good as the NYSRPA was these cases being GVRed is even better. Clear direction from SCOTUS to all lower courts on 2nd A cases.
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How will this affect the WA mag ban that goes into effect tomorrow? Hopefully somebody with standing in WA will file for a TRO pending the 9th Circuits new decision on the Cali ban. That would be my guess. I hope they are successful.
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Pretty big aftershock....
The thing is that the lower courts ignored Heller and created the two part test that was finally struck down. Whether the courts now read Thomas' opinion and abide by it, or just come up with new tests that facially comport with the standard of review announced in the opinion but stick to the "it's not a core right, the public safety concerns justify the government action" is to be seen.
I'm counting on the two cases in the 9th Cir. (HI and CA) to be a harbinger of how much activism is left in 2A matters at lower courts.
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All kinds of things going our way. Tired of winning yet? LOL.
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