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That killer mass shooter in Norway got the maximum sentence in that country, 21 years. Denmark is probably about the same on sentencing.


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Originally Posted by JTrapper73
My chiropractor is from Denmark. He’s a dandy guy.
He hates socialism, hates democrats and liberals in general. Absolutely loves America.
He said Denmark took on thousands of Somali refugees in the late 70’s, early 80’s. He said the effects have been devastating.
He will be quick to tell you that liberalism has all but destroyed his country and will destroy ours to if Americans don’t wake up.



Denmark has been one of the smartest and most independent if the European Union for a number of years. They took in a number of
Muzzy refugees, saw the problems, and put a hard stop to it.

They do have socialistic laws. But not as bad as many think.
Gun control is pretty much a given in Europe.

Many think we aren't socialist.
Look around and open your eyes.
If you are taxed to provide for The Greater Good, its socialist.


How many old farts here will unapologetically admit that the
favorite thing of old people is Socialist?

SOCIAL Security.

They won't.
We will hear how they paid and are owed.

Still socialist!

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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by JTrapper73
My chiropractor is from Denmark. He’s a dandy guy.
He hates socialism, hates democrats and liberals in general. Absolutely loves America.
He said Denmark took on thousands of Somali refugees in the late 70’s, early 80’s. He said the effects have been devastating.
He will be quick to tell you that liberalism has all but destroyed his country and will destroy ours to if Americans don’t wake up.



Denmark has been one of the smartest and most independent if the European Union for a number of years. They took in a number of
Muzzy refugees, saw the problems, and put a hard stop to it.

They do have socialistic laws. But not as bad as many think.
Gun control is pretty much a given in Europe.

Many think we aren't socialist.
Look around and open your eyes.
If you are taxed to provide for The Greater Good, its socialist.


How many old farts here will unapologetically admit that the
favorite thing of old people is Socialist?

SOCIAL Security.

They won't.
We will hear how they paid and are owed.

Still socialist!

Yep, hard to argue that.

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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by JTrapper73
My chiropractor is from Denmark. He’s a dandy guy.
He hates socialism, hates democrats and liberals in general. Absolutely loves America.
He said Denmark took on thousands of Somali refugees in the late 70’s, early 80’s. He said the effects have been devastating.
He will be quick to tell you that liberalism has all but destroyed his country and will destroy ours to if Americans don’t wake up.



Denmark has been one of the smartest and most independent if the European Union for a number of years. They took in a number of
Muzzy refugees, saw the problems, and put a hard stop to it.

They do have socialistic laws. But not as bad as many think.
Gun control is pretty much a given in Europe.

Many think we aren't socialist.
Look around and open your eyes.
If you are taxed to provide for The Greater Good, its socialist.


How many old farts here will unapologetically admit that the
favorite thing of old people is Socialist?

SOCIAL Security.

They won't.
We will hear how they paid and are owed.

Still socialist!
I think most would be fine with .Gov giving them back exactly what they were FORCED to pay in (with interest) and calling it good. I know I would.

And I'm not even an "Old Fart"

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Denmark population is 5.831 million , keep that in mind when comparing.

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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by JTrapper73
My chiropractor is from Denmark. He’s a dandy guy.
He hates socialism, hates democrats and liberals in general. Absolutely loves America.
He said Denmark took on thousands of Somali refugees in the late 70’s, early 80’s. He said the effects have been devastating.
He will be quick to tell you that liberalism has all but destroyed his country and will destroy ours to if Americans don’t wake up.



Denmark has been one of the smartest and most independent if the European Union for a number of years. They took in a number of
Muzzy refugees, saw the problems, and put a hard stop to it.

They do have socialistic laws. But not as bad as many think.
Gun control is pretty much a given in Europe.

Many think we aren't socialist.
Look around and open your eyes.
If you are taxed to provide for The Greater Good, its socialist.


How many old farts here will unapologetically admit that the
favorite thing of old people is Socialist?

SOCIAL Security.

They won't.
We will hear how they paid and are owed.

Still socialist!

Really?

If you pay into an insurance policy for many years (annuities) and then start drawing fixed income from that policy,,,that’s socialist, you say?

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Folks might want to look into what The Netherlands did with peoples individual retirement accounts.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Really?
If you pay into an insurance policy for many years (annuities) and then start drawing fixed income from that policy,,,that’s socialist, you say?
Social Security is darn near communist. You are not paying into your own retirement. You are paying benefits to the generation that came before you and of course the cripples in your own generation. the younger generation that you expect to pay your "benefits" weren't party to that agreement and now know the system will be broke when it is their turn. When they get numerous enough compared to us boomers (we're dying out) they will lean on the politicians to cut you off. You don't have an account you paid into.


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Social Security is a government sponsored Ponzi scheme. If ordinary citizens had the ability to opt out of the system and the willpower to invest the same percentage of every paycheck they receive into any of a number of private investment funds, they wouldn't have any worries about retirement funds. Unfortunately, few people have that kind of self control or the ability to plan beyond where they're going to spend ALL of that next paycheck. Of course, the politicians won't allow the fools who keep voting for them to have that kind of control over their own destiny, so nothing short of an armed rebellion will ever change things! Having the ability to control where someone lives, what they eat, and the money they have to spend is essential to keeping the peons and serfs manageable.


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Originally Posted by JTrapper73
My chiropractor is from Denmark. He’s a dandy guy.
He hates socialism, hates democrats and liberals in general. Absolutely loves America.
He said Denmark took on thousands of Somali refugees in the late 70’s, early 80’s. He said the effects have been devastating.
He will be quick to tell you that liberalism has all but destroyed his country and will destroy ours to if Americans don’t wake up.

We had an exchange student from Denmark for the school year 2 years ago. Had a blast having him here. He really got short changed by covid as things shut down. He sure liked to shoot. His family is coming to visit later this month...he asked if they could all shoot while they are here.

We learned a lot about Denmark from him. The prison system is like vacation. Very nice private rooms, tv, video games, etc. It's not a punishment.

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How diverse is the population?


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
How diverse is the population?
Originally Posted by CCCC
Not very.


More interesting is the ratio comparisons between
Ethnic group percentages and crime.


Weird. Certain groups commit crime beyond what their population would indicate.

In Denmark.


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Saw an article this morning pointing out that their very strict gun laws didn’t stop this shooting. The Left here will use that to push what they really want, a totally disarmed populace (except for the rich and connected, naturally). They’ll never quit, and the coming elections might either make them lay off for a bit, or go for broke. New York Dems are fighting tooth and nail against the SCOTUS ruling, adding a bunch of intrusive conditions on licensees, and good old California is adding some stuff as well.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
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Really?
If you pay into an insurance policy for many years (annuities) and then start drawing fixed income from that policy,,,that’s socialist, you say?
Social Security is darn near communist. You are not paying into your own retirement. You are paying benefits to the generation that came before you and of course the cripples in your own generation. the younger generation that you expect to pay your "benefits" weren't party to that agreement and now know the system will be broke when it is their turn. When they get numerous enough compared to us boomers (we're dying out) they will lean on the politicians to cut you off. You don't have an account you paid into.


By being an American you are a party to that agreement.

Folks have been talking for a long time about “the system being broke by,,,”.

SS ain’t going away.

And by the way, most insurance devices and instruments operate on the pool method of incoming versus outgoing capital.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Really?
If you pay into an insurance policy for many years (annuities) and then start drawing fixed income from that policy,,,that’s socialist, you say?
Social Security is darn near communist. You are not paying into your own retirement. You are paying benefits to the generation that came before you and of course the cripples in your own generation. the younger generation that you expect to pay your "benefits" weren't party to that agreement and now know the system will be broke when it is their turn. When they get numerous enough compared to us boomers (we're dying out) they will lean on the politicians to cut you off. You don't have an account you paid into.


By being an American you are a party to that agreement.

Folks have been talking for a long time about “the system being broke by,,,”.

SS ain’t going away.

And by the way, most insurance devices and instruments operate on the pool method of incoming versus outgoing capital.



I figure that SS may be headed for big changes too.

Like Hastings, it seems obvious to me that politicians will stop using all that money to court the elder generation. It seems that having groomed the younger generations, their interest in the older and more worldly citizens will fade.

The idea of reducing or removing SS benefits from anyone with private retirement funds must be on their minds. As well as upping/rearranging age brackets/benefits, etc. They already skip COL updates, etc.

And I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to make it illegal to not be in some sort of private retirement plan. Remember the "crime" of not buying health care? And the current rumors of taxing unrealized gains in retirement accounts?

The only real clout the SS generations have left is tied to the needs and expectations of the following generations. Simply reduce those needs & expectations and reducing SS can follow with less resistance. It should be very easy to sell "why should I pay for them?" to a couple of generations of the entitled, right?

There was a time when promising SS & health care was a good political strategy. But those older generation votes seem to be less valuable currency all the time.

And don't forget how many taxpayer dollars are going to be used to support suddenly surging resource demands, and how little a dollar is suddenly worth.

It's gotta come from somewhere. Pretty sure stripping SS benefits will be looked at favorably, probably with grandfathering the current retirees but stripping benefits from future retirees.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Really?
If you pay into an insurance policy for many years (annuities) and then start drawing fixed income from that policy,,,that’s socialist, you say?
Social Security is darn near communist. You are not paying into your own retirement. You are paying benefits to the generation that came before you and of course the cripples in your own generation. the younger generation that you expect to pay your "benefits" weren't party to that agreement and now know the system will be broke when it is their turn. When they get numerous enough compared to us boomers (we're dying out) they will lean on the politicians to cut you off. You don't have an account you paid into.


By being an American you are a party to that agreement.

Folks have been talking for a long time about “the system being broke by,,,”.

SS ain’t going away.

And by the way, most insurance devices and instruments operate on the pool method of incoming versus outgoing capital.




At one time insurance was much different.
Socialist in theory, but a private business.

SS has never been private, and not really optional for most.
Go to jail if you don't comply.

Insurance is now practically mandated,
But only criminal to opt out of car insurance.


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