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I have a 300wsm and 2 325 wsm. I also have a 223 WSSM (that doesnt feed well). I have been able to come across a little brass now and then. I just got some 7mm wsm brass and 284 brass (dont have either rifle, but would keep the brass for the future). My brother has several 270 wsm and loves them. I would like to get a 7m wsm some time, but it doesnt do anything a good 7mm rem mag wont do.
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The 7mm WSM as about the most versatile, especially considering the available .284 cal bullets available now...that being said, brass is still the hold up. I've owned WSM rifles in .270, 7mm, and .300, but finally got rid of my last one a few years ago. Oddly enough, I still have 4-5x boxes of 7mm WSM and at least 1-2x of the .300 WSM.
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The 7mm WSM as about the most versatile, especially considering the available .284 cal bullets available now...that being said, brass is still the hold up. I've owned WSM rifles in .270, 7mm, and .300, but finally got rid of my last one a few years ago. Oddly enough, I still have 4-5x boxes of 7mm WSM and at least 1-2x of the .300 WSM. Probably a lot of us in the same boat as you Jason. I have a full box of 7wsm ammo, and a few boxes of empty brass. Actually primed brass. Great stuff. I figured I'd take it to a gunshow and sell it one of these days. I still have a 300WSM, but that is the only rifle I own that is currently without a scope. Why? Because I never shoot it. Great cartridge, but I just don't shoot mine. I have a buddy that has 3 300WSM rifles and loves the cartridge. Out of all the WSM's I think that is the only one with its head above water..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I have a 270 WSM, love it. I load 140 Accubonds for it
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I have owned a pile of bolt action rifles chambered for .300 WSM and i did notice that due to the 35 degree shoulder My Winchester mod 70 and Kimber Montana's fed these cartridges MUCH better than the push feed models like Remington 700's and Christensen Ridgelines...I dont own a .300 WSM at the moment as they are powder hawgs and powder has been mighty hard to come by these last few years....My 308's allow me a bunch more shooting out of a pound of powder đź‘Ť....Hb
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I have probably owned 2 dozen WSM's. All sorts of manufacturers. Remington, Winchester, Browning, Tikka, Sako. Never a feeding problem with any of them. Did have a Sako 85 that would eject the cases into the scope but from what I hear that's somewhat common issue with a lot of Model 85's. Currently own 5. I guess you can say I like them...a lot. And I have found that are usually very accurate. I've had tons of brass for years so the shortage doesn't effect me. I'm sure if you ask around on a few of these forums you could find all the brass you need. I'd go for it. Good luck
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Gimmicks!
I dabbled in the short fat craze briefly. With exception to my Grendel and maybe an ARC, I am sticking with standard and short action cartridges from here on out. Maybe one day a 375 H&H.
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Seen any ammo? Seen any brass? Not only that, but they have feeding issues sometimes. The shoulder angle is not conducive to great feeding. Plus they don't hold as much as a comparable standard cartridge. You are at a loss, but if are ok with it, then go ahead.. All that for so little gain (or maybe even no gain). I can’t think of anywhere I’d go with a 300 WSM that I wouldn’t go with a 30-06.
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Seen any ammo? Seen any brass? Not only that, but they have feeding issues sometimes. The shoulder angle is not conducive to great feeding. Plus they don't hold as much as a comparable standard cartridge. You are at a loss, but if are ok with it, then go ahead.. All that for so little gain (or maybe even no gain). I can’t think of anywhere I’d go with a 300 WSM that I wouldn’t go with a 30-06. . Agreed 👍......Hb
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Local Sportsmans Whorehouse had 30 boxes of newly minted Remington 300 WSM ammo on the shelf last night the 2 box limit per day sucks, so tomorrow I'm having 3 of my gang members all get me some got three Tikka T3 rifles that chop moose like a guillotine and never had any feeding issues ADG make awesome 300 WSM brass and I picked up 200 pcs of the stuff a few months ago
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All that for so little gain (or maybe even no gain). I can’t think of anywhere I’d go with a 300 WSM that I wouldn’t go with a 30-06. The wheel was round a LONG time ago.
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Seen any ammo? Seen any brass? Not only that, but they have feeding issues sometimes. The shoulder angle is not conducive to great feeding. Plus they don't hold as much as a comparable standard cartridge. You are at a loss, but if are ok with it, then go ahead.. All that for so little gain (or maybe even no gain). I can’t think of anywhere I’d go with a 300 WSM that I wouldn’t go with a 30-06. Amen. And with 5 or even 6 in the magazine, you have more firepower with the good ol 06 vs. a short fat cartridge. I realize one does not need that many cartridges in the magazine for a normal hunt, but what if you are in bear country? I'd feel more at ease with 5 in the mag and one in the chamber vs. 3 in the magazine with a WSM. I'd also have that 30-06 loaded with 200gr Nosler partitions. To each his own I guess. I recently bought a 300 Remington SAUM and it compares readily to the 300 WSM in performance. I don't have anything against these cartridges, and have used and hunted with just about all of them. However, if wanting to go full on 300 magnum, I'd grab my pre 64 model 70 300WBY. That one holds 4 in the magazine and one in the pipe. It feeds wonderfully and is extremely accurate. Win win..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I got a Kimber 8400 Classic in .300 WSM some years ago and, for whatever reason, could never warm to the rifle or the cartridge. I’ve used it some, but not much. When I decided to thin the herd a bit it was the first candidate that came to mind.
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Wow...where have I been all these years, with folks making WSM's a dependable upgrade in performance over the standard 270/30'06 etc calibers. I'm still shooting a 1980's era M70 Fwt 7x57, instead of a 7-08.
The Better Half maintains an antique furniture booth here in town, but with the current cash flow slowing down, has started an EBay bidnizz too. She finds stuff in auctions I would never dream of...and she knows nodda about my rifles except some of 'em are "pretty" and some are not.
What started this conversation about WSM's at the dinner table was when she brought home a box of WW 270WSM ammo out of an auction that she'd bought it for $5, not knowing I could not use them, but had remembered I had a 270 something and wanted me use the ammo, or try and sell it, but none of the local shops had any interest 'cause apparently nobody in town has a WSM shooter. Last year she came home with a new never used Perazzi O/U stock and made some crack about it being funny looking canoe paddle....as a joke.
Then in March I got sick with a bigtime case of Shingles that has busted my butt beyond belief with multiple Dr's & MRI XRay's, still can't walk dependably, couldn't drive with the 50%+ loss of use of my right leg for couple months , 2 dozen therapy sessions, and a heart scan next week. I'm still planning on hunting somewhere in the Texas State Park System Lottery this fall too. Ron
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I have a model 70 coyote I bought rite out of high school in 270 wsm. I put a trigger in it had it bedded, with 140 gr nosler ballistic tips it's a hammer on white tails. I have some 110 ttsx loaded for it and it becomes a laser beam and deer dont stand a chance and there is zero recoil. If I get the chance to buy a Montana in 270 wsm I am going to jump on it.
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The only real downside is the short fat WSM cases often don't feed well in Remington actions. They generally feed well in Winchester actions, Tikkas, etc.
In terms of powder capacity most of them are about halfway between a 30-06 based case and a belted magnum case, and they perform accordingly. Most of the reason I use them is I run suppressors so I'm always trying to cut down on overall length.
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I have 2 300 WSMs and 1 270 WSM, and used to have a 7mm WSM. I regret selling it, but I sold it to help pay for the wife’s college. Anyways. One 300 is a Tikka T3 Lite now loading issues, the other is Rem 700 that does experience issues from time to time. The 270 is a Win 70 and no issues from it. I hunt quite a bit with both of them, but never shot anything with the .300’s, 270 is a different story.
Yes, brass is hard to find at the moment and 270 WSM more so than 300 WSM. If you find it stock up. I will say this. I have quite a bit of Federal brass for the 270 WSM, primer pockets give after 3-4 firings, not so with the 300 WSM and Federal brass. I haven’t had this issue from Nosler and don’t have that many firings from the Remington brass I bought last year. Too bad it was a 2 bag limit.
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FYI for anyone with a 7mm WSM. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102137620?pid=371969I thought about buying and necking it down or up for the 270 and 300, everything I read said it was not with it. Now necking down 300 WSM to 270 or vise versa was a different story.
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IIRC, the 7mm WSM is 1.702" length to the shoulder, vs 1.664 on the 270, 300 & 325 WSM iterations.
only time I've had problems with the WSM's is when I played Kimber Roulette with a wood stocked Classic, and when I tried to resize for a 6.5-300 WSM (6.5 Leopard) out 7WSM brass.
Being a low volume shooter, I've been able to lay in a lifetime supply for each.
I do believe the 325 WSM is my fav!
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I have a 270 WSM, love it. I load 140 Accubonds for it +1 on this. I shoot 140 Game Kings in mine too. Mine is a Model 70 Featherweight and it shoots and handles great.
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