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I've never been able to understand hoarding junk. There's a house in the hills near us with stacks of old hot tubs, junk cars, and old appliances. It's a real eyesore. What could anyone possibly do with dozens of old hot tubs?
Anyway, there was a range fire there this weekend. It only burned 10 acres and I'm suspicious that it might have been set to eliminate hot tubs. At least the fire crews were able to get it out before it spread. The hills are still green enough to slow it down. If this had happened a month later, it could have become a disaster.

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We have some slobs like that around here too

they say......'I'm gonna use that some day'


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One man’s junk! 🤪

Maybe it’s for “long term” investment purposes! 😉 memtb


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It really depends on what one hoards.


I have no idea what to do with that many hotubs.


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One man's junk is another man's treasure.........naw still junk.


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Mental disease.


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The region I used to build houses in [coastal] you couldn't move 10 miles north of the coast because you'd be building a house among ones like the one in the picture.
One guy collected old rope, big rope from ships, it laid out in the weather so long it had 30 foot trees growing up through the coils. Old above ground swimming pools were another favorite of his.

One in six people have mental problems.

Fort Walton Beach area had HORDES of houses that NEVER cut their lawn, I've seen many places that you wouldn't know there was a house there except during the winter months.

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It starts when a Democrat is elected President; then it continues when a Republican is elected in anticipation of another Democrat being elected in the future.


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Might need it someday.


We call it Shopping At Home.


Terrible sorry about your property values Karens! Hahahaha!


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Originally Posted by Winchester21
Mental disease.

Yes Sir, worldwide !

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A while back I read about a guy who saved old newspapers. He'd go out and collect them. His living room was stacked so high that he had tunnels that he had to crawl through to move from room to room. Then he disappeared. He was in a tunnel when it collapsed and killed him. Can you imagine having to clean that up?


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I will say this, if you ever get yourself in a Jason Bourne kinda jam anywhere on the planet, head directly toward these type folks, they will get you out of the jam !

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Clicked on this thinking it was Going to be about panic hoarding…


Bottom line,

Ppl are selfish.

They don’t need it, just don’t want others to have it.


Example-

The great TP shortage…..


Folks weee buying up YEARS worth of chit tickets.


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Originally Posted by BigDave39355
Clicked on this thinking it was Going to be about panic hoarding…


Bottom line,

Ppl are selfish.

They don’t need it, just don’t want others to have it.


Example-

The great TP shortage…..


Folks weee buying up YEARS worth of chit tickets.


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Excellent post! (Many examples besides bum fodder could be cited.)


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Yeah...who needs more than 7 rounds of 30-30 ammo?


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
A while back I read about a guy who saved old newspapers. He'd go out and collect them. His living room was stacked so high that he had tunnels that he had to crawl through to move from room to room. Then he disappeared. He was in a tunnel when it collapsed and killed him. Can you imagine having to clean that up?


I believe that you are thinking of Langley Collyer. The story of Langley and his brother, Homer, is fascinating. The small book, Ghosty Men, by Franz Lidz, is an excellent account of their story. I highly recommend it.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Yeah...who needs more than 7 rounds of 30-30 ammo?

Or a busted toilet in the front yard.

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Originally Posted by losttrail60
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Yeah...who needs more than 7 rounds of 30-30 ammo?

Or a busted toilet in the front yard.

Would have made a nice planter or worm farm.


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That's not hoarding.

That's a loser.


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There was an old house along highway 84 west of Laurel that looked like the “Sanford and Son” house. All kinds of stuff about 4-5’ deep with a walkway about 2-3’ wide from the road to the house. I think it was all removed when they 4 laned the highway.


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RockChuck: Yes I can imagine that piled high newspaper scenario!
Decades ago I was dispatched to a "check the welfare" situation to a beautiful view house on Seattles Queen Anne Hill.
My partner and I were looking for an elderly woman who would not answer the phone calls from her out of state adult child.
We tried looking in the windows but newspapers were piled so high that we could not see in.
Eventually we forced a rear door and our search was hampered by the smell of death and incredible stacks of newspapers - some stacks went to the ceiling. In some rooms I had to turn sideways to get down the "tunnels/aisles" of stacked newspapers!
We eventually found the dead and decomposing lady who we later learned had died of a heart attack. She was in her late 90's.
But for many decades she had been taking BOTH of Seattles daily and Sunday newspapers and she saved and stacked them all!
Run of the mill hoarder we thought, but no, heres the kicker - inside every paper she had saved was a single one dollar bill!
We discovered this when some of the newspapers were knocked over when the Medical Examiners Crew got there and their gerni bumped over a pile and the monies fell out of the papers!
The Fire Department was called for consultation on the danger to the nearby homes as the houses were literally just 15 - 20 feet apart in that old neighborhood.
The Fire Department took charge of the house and it took them two days to pack out and away those papers.
I have dealt with "hoarders" professionally MANY dozens of times and still have NO idea what motivates them.
This little old lady was certainly NOT hoarding newspapers to keep others from having her stuff - like one of our CampFirers contends - she was just a semi-harmless kook.
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Originally Posted by Winchester21
Mental disease.


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Hoarding problem or brush fire?


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Now the meth addicts can get all the copper wire outa those wrecks easy peasy. That' what they do here with their motorhomes on Forest Service land when they're done using them for meth labs.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Now the meth addicts can get all the copper wire outa those wrecks easy peasy. That' what they do here with their motorhomes on Forest Service land when they're done using them for meth labs.

Great place to raise a family.

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Three farms within 60 miles of me make those look like places with neat-freaks residing...


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Now the meth addicts can get all the copper wire outa those wrecks easy peasy. That' what they do here with their motorhomes on Forest Service land when they're done using them for meth labs.

Great place to raise a family.

LOL

You grow your cookers like you grow a farm hand. Basically Meth is where farming was pre-war. Big families, cheap labor = better profit.


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I keep stuff to a minimum, if I’m not using it, sell or junk it.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Might need it someday.


We call it Shopping At Home.


Terrible sorry about your property values Karens! Hahahaha!

Some call it the bonepile.

Never know when I might need one of the 2 old Dish/Hughes/DirecTV satellite dishes out there. And in about 2 days I'll be losing the use of another from DirecTV. That'll make 2 on the side of the house I can take down and use when I need them.


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Humm.

Idunno if I fit into this conversation.

I've never believed in mowing grass, what the stock or wild game don't eat will die in the Fall and grow back in the Spring.

I always have enough building materials around to throw up a couple thousand sq ft home...maybe a little more.

At one time I had over 100 non-running cars in my yard.
All 50s stuff I bought over a 10 year period.

Neighbors never complained, in fact people would stop in just to wander around and look at those cars.

There was one elderly women that walked by on occasion, during some casual conversation one day she very kindly stated that I should consider collecting China.
I'm not sure if she was insinuating I should collect China instead of old cars or in addition to my car collection. China never interested me so it was a no-go.

Mighta been some ball-less city transplant around thats never got up the nerve to say anything. There's a few places up the road passed me with perfectly manicured lawns and little bushes and trees in straight rows bordering their properties.

Pretty boring to look at actually, surprised there's not a law against it, kinda kills the mojo of rural living.

But they own their land and can do as they please with it, I don't dwell on it.

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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Some call it the bonepile.

We save leftovers from projects but seldom have projects themselves, say an old car or whatever. I don't need new projects, I have plenty. I enjoy things being organized and orderly for the most part. What isn't gets compartmentalized until I get to it.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
A while back I read about a guy who saved old newspapers. He'd go out and collect them. His living room was stacked so high that he had tunnels that he had to crawl through to move from room to room. Then he disappeared. He was in a tunnel when it collapsed and killed him. Can you imagine having to clean that up?



Did his death make it on the front page 😂……asking for a friend! 😉 memtb


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I can't understand hoarders. When I was reading gas & electric meters for a few years in my semi-retirement I ran into a few. Some hoarder residences you'd never know it by outward appearance. Those earlier posts about the newspaper hoarders reminded me of one of those. The guy had a nice 2 story townhouse with attached garage, full basement, in a nice townhouse development. The outside was immaculate but inside the newspapers were stacked to the ceiling in the entire dining room and one lower bedroom (?), part of the kitchen, plus half the basement where I had to go to read his gas meter. The guy was well dressed, clean cut and friendly and probably in his late 50's - early 60's. Not what I would think of when I hear the word "hoarder".

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Originally Posted by memtb
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A while back I read about a guy who saved old newspapers. He'd go out and collect them. His living room was stacked so high that he had tunnels that he had to crawl through to move from room to room. Then he disappeared. He was in a tunnel when it collapsed and killed him. Can you imagine having to clean that up?



Did his death make it on the front page 😂……asking for a friend! 😉 memtb
It's been a few years. I don't remember the details, just that it was a Darwin event.


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I've known a couple of well-to-do folks, who were hoarders - and very few others knew it.


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Wait'll someone sees my wife's closet!!! eek


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Quite simply, it’s the homesteader mentality coupled with Blake’s Law:


The longer you need something for some possible future use, the sooner you will need it after discarding it.


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It starts as good intentions and turns into an expense that they can't afford to get rid of....usually.


I sure could go for some $2.50/gal gas and a mean tweet!

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Crazy cool vid:



Don't you ever wonder why
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There's still so much that goes so right
And beauty abounds?

The thunder rolls and the baby sighs
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I got one of those stashed in the brush somewhere.
I'll see if I can find it tomorrow and get a picture.

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That there's a California Felony!

Ohhhhh the trees, the TREES!!! (insert "wringing hand" emoji here)

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Originally Posted by Winchester21
Mental disease.
Absolutely. It's really that simple.


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I have a mental disease for ammo….and gun parts.

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Those people in Rock Chuck's post and pictures would make great neighbors! Just imagine going over to their house and say, "Hi, Mr. Jones. I was wondering if I could borrow a cup of sugar?"

"Why sure, son. Sugar? Let's see now. Where did I put that last 50 pound bag I bought? Son, I'll have to look for it so it might be a while. There's a chair over there. Have a seat. Oh, while I'm looking, would you like a glass of lemonade?" grin

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Fugk living in an HOA, I want them to be my neighbor.

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I remember that show called Hoarders. Had to quit watching it because it would gross me out. I remember an old.lady hoarding her dirty adult diapers. Another with an old wheelchair bound man that would piss and moan about everything that the crew was throwing away. Got mad when they were tossing out an old frying pan that was rusted through because he said "Haven't you ever seen where people paint pictures on them and hang them on the wall?" The people looked like they wanted to bash him with that pan. Stupid, unreasonable idiots.

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Originally Posted by MarkWV
I have a mental disease for ammo….and gun parts.
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A lot of folks that hoard have mental issues, sometimes from a very poor childhood where they didn't have anything of their own. Others do it after a traumatic episode like a death. No matter what the reason, it makes no sense if 90% of the stuff is useless. I know of a couple people that started out as small time "preppers" and have slowly turned into hoarders. Most of the stuff they have is buried under other junk, and is useless due to that very problem. One person needed a generator a while back and couldn't dig it out of their garage to use it. I thought it might dawn on them how dumb that is, but it didn't slow them down.

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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Now the meth addicts can get all the copper wire outa those wrecks easy peasy. That' what they do here with their motorhomes on Forest Service land when they're done using them for meth labs.

I know of a couple of them in your area that burned up for other reasons.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
I've never been able to understand hoarding junk. There's a house in the hills near us with stacks of old hot tubs, junk cars, and old appliances. It's a real eyesore. What could anyone possibly do with dozens of old hot tubs?

I don't understand it either, I am the exact opposite.That said, it's thier property. If they wanna stack it full of hot tubs. Well good for them I guess, none of my business. It will only inconvenience my eyes for a few seconds as I go by.

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I have had problems with people hoarding >my stuff< or >borrowing< and never returning.

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Used to look like that on my in-law’s land. They ‘let’ me clean it out

I spent about 5 weekends, just weekends hauling junk cars, a barn 4 ft deep of engine blocks and transmissions. Lawn tractors, mowers, satellite dishes, wash machines, odd junk.

Had to do it in winter because the copperheads are so bad on that piece. Some cars didnt have wheels. Jacked them up on cribbing and eased the trailer up under halfway, lower it and winch up the rest of the way on sandy trailer deck and a come a long.

Cars were paying $180 a ton.

Made about 8-9k for all of that junk.

I pulled the 383 HP out of 69 Fury VIP up in the weeds. That motor is now in my 72 Challenger. I tore it down, honed the cylinder walls and put new TRW 10:1 pistons in it, 284/484 purple shaft cam and lifter kit, already had 906 heads so just valve job, fresh keepers, springs and seals.

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I do have 3 ac units

1- 5 ton Trane package r-22 unit still runs, no kw banks. Still on my 5x10 trailer. 😁 my unit, I upgraded in March

Gibson 3 ton- coil shot. I need to yank capacitors, trasformers, switches, board still good. Blower and evap fan was ok.


Trane 2-1/2 ton-package it works also. House caught fire, unit other end of the house. Saving this in case my rental house AC takes a chit. I got it for $100
My zone 2 is a 2-1/2 T. If ai need on this end I got it. Mothball it for now. Only 5 years old

Doesn’t hurt having parts.

I have parts cars for two types of vehicles we run as daily drivers now. Be ignorant as hell to haul them off…for what a fuggin $100-200? Hell no. The timing cover on the 3.5 liter dodge caravan is $1300 right now. 👍👍👍

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Fuggin Karen’s!!! It’s his property and he pays the taxes! So what if the man wants 100 hot tubs why is it your concern??? I got a dozen cars and bikes and lawnmowers setting around right now! You wanna run to Lowe’s and pay Biden/CHYNA prices for parts, be my guest. It if I can fix whatever is broke with parts I have laying around that works for me. You ever hear the story about walk a mile in the other mans shoes? Maybe you should stop in and say hello and quit riding by judging him Karen! He might be a pretty cool dude! Most old guys I know around here in the mountains with junk strung out everywhere are some of the smartest, kind, good hearted people around. You don’t like it go back to the city in your HOA!

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I refer to myself as Curator - It sounds so much better than Hoarder.

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In the 1980s I lived in Layton, Utah which adjoins Hill AFB. There was a well-known hoarder who lived outside the city limits on about 5 acres - crammed with old cars, appliances, and junk of all kinds. Also many small outbuildings. The county tried to enforce zoning laws but he ignored them and was hostile to any government interference. One day though, I had to make a pretty good detour to get home because of roadblocks about a mile in every direction from his property. Later found out that some health inspectors had gone in, and they found barrel after barrel of what was suspected to be explosive materials. Authorities then determined the barrels were filled with aluminum perchlorate based solid rocket fuel. Apparently very highly dangerous stuff. The owner was arrested, and a massive cleanup effort began that took a couple of months to complete. The real kicker of this whole story though, is that the hoarder had receipts for just about everything he had acquired including the rocket fuel. His source? Defense Reutilization and Marketing Office, Hill Air Force Base. He was a frequent flier to their monthly auctions, and the Air Force had pallets of the stuff that they needed to get rid of. That practice ended shortly after all this came to light in the local media.

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The pricks!

They sell him stuff then arrest him for having it and take it back!

Musta had a azzhat neighbor that just couldn't mind his own business.

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Originally Posted by losttrail60
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Yeah...who needs more than 7 rounds of 30-30 ammo?

Or a busted toilet in the front yard.
Easier than hanging your ass over a log.

Ever tried to sit on the rim of a 5 gallon bucket?


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I learned a long time ago it's best to scatter your collections of precious items on various different properties.

It helps you remember what's where while making one appear to be less of a hoarder all in one location.

Nobody accused me of hoarding when I made this post.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/16956400/games-people-play

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See anything you need??

Stuff on the short side on top has been there 40+ years. Some stuff in there has possibly been there since the mid 30s or 40s.

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I could spend all day there digging around.

How long has the dog been stored there?

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Is the Airedale live or stuffed? 😂

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Very lively, especially in there.


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