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Great data! Curious - how did you decide on LVR?

Close in burn rate to 2000 Mr, which I've loaded in the 308 Winchester for over a decade, also using various 200 grain bullets.

LVR is a weird powder.

With 2000 MR beyond 47 grains you'd get the typical sticky extraction.

With leverevolution at 47 grains,

You get easy extraction, but loose primer pockets using the same lot of Winchester brass.

Interesting! I started loading LVR in my 6.5 Grendel due to its similarity to CFE223 - I never considered it a heavy bullet load for .308 but I’m intrigued!

I’ve been using it in a few spots where CFE223 is listed. I wonder what the real difference is between the two cause everything I’ve seen and done so far is very close between the two.

Folks rave about CFE223 in the Whelen. Makes me wonder some.


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From my 18” 308, Winchester brass, CCI200 primer and Speer 200 soft nose. OAL 2.785
44 grains of LVR 2393- 7-3
45 grains of LVR 2436-16-7
Temp was a miserable 85 and breezy. no sticky bolt lift. Accuracy was pretty good. I’m not a benchrest shooter, I shoot my rifles slung up just like I use them in the field. I may try 46 grains but I’m happy with 45.

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Frank, thats plenty punchy from an 18" barrel.

My loaner rifle was a sporterized Mauser in 30-06 with 21" barrel.

I always had a half dozen boxes of federal blue box 220 grain hot cor.

It chronographed 2400 fps from the short barrel.

I left the rifle in Kotzebue with a friend and the gun with those 220 grainers has made some 300-400 yd pokes on winter caribou. Probably a half dozen caribou a year.

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RL 26 will give you 2770 FPS using 160gr Nosler partitions using Win cases. That was in my Tikka with 22.4 inch barrel. SD was 9.4 Plus it was a accurate load. but it was compressed.

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Originally Posted by mainer_in_ak
Haverluk, 200 partitions went 2550 fps from 22 inch barrels using Alliant 2000 Mr or rl 17.

LVR beats both rl 17 and 2000 MR by 65 fps.

Anyhow, I'm confused how the gun magazine writers/parrots claim the 6.5 Creedmoor exceeds the 308 Winchester.

Plug any 30 caliber, 200 grain bullet into a ballistic calculator @ 2614 fps.

The 6.5 douch nozzle ain't all that......

I have been saying this for a while. The articles tend to compare a 150 or other non optimal (in terms of BC) projectile to the very best 6.5 projectile/load. When you actually load up a heavy, high BC projectile in the .308, it is a whole other animal. While I have not run the Hot Cors, I have run other heavy projectiles and they do great.

The 6.5 CM is not a bad little cartridge, within its limitations, has very little recoil, but it is not the miracle that performs like a .300 win mag like I have heard and read about. I have popped some elk with mine and while it did the job, I did not think it was anything earth shattering.

The .308 is truly a versatile cartridge. If given the choice of just one "all around" cartridge, especially in the lower 48, I would more likely than not take it. After decades of using it and others, it is still the one I reach for the most.


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The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.

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