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Stick shot so much he moved on to a laser beam!

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Only have a couple 6-284's,but that niche rifle is easily my favorite. A 6-06 is an easier route. Hint................

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I have always found Big Sticks posts to be highly entertaining. He freely contributes a lot of solid knowledge and accurate information learned from experience. I expect he has forgotten more about firearms, DuPont and Galena, and shooting then most of us will ever know. Pay attention and you might just learn something.


very true , and if the cussing bothers you get some big girl panties on ! hint ????????


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I think highly of the .284 Win. …..it makes a great 25-284!😁

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I've only got (3) 25-284's and the 6-284 is vastly superior. Hint...................


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Only have a couple 6-284's,but that niche rifle is easily my favorite. A 6-06 is an easier route. Hint................

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Stick,

How's the 6-284 vs. the 243 Ackley on velocity and barrel wear?

Same question re: 6mm Creed?

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I've only got (3) 25-284's and the 6-284 is vastly superior. Hint...................


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I don't understand, what is with "Hint."?
I have the idiot blocked, You would be better off doing the same.

Turned out to be the best advice. smile Done.


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David,

Barrel wear/tear,is predicated upon numerous things and as case capacity goes up,barrel life follows in compromised duration. As mainstay .243" chamberings go,I shoot a "few" and their applications tend to differ. Hint.

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As comparisons betwixt the 6-284,243AI and 243 Kreed' go...the Kreed is mechanically the most forgiving,due case length. I tend to fret projectiles much more,than heeding an arbitrary velocity threshold,if only because bullets matter wayyyyyyy more than headstamps. I'll happily take the Kreed' and more bullet,while happily trading away some velocity and eeking better barrel life. Hint...............





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There's ZERO fhuqking need to substantiate,that besides being a Drooling CLUELESS Fhuqktard,that you just also "happen" to be a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit like Clair and "claim" Imaginary Pretend Ignore,as you read my EVERY fhuqking word...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

You could simply shut the fhuqk up,take notes,apply same and finally learn something in your "life". Not that I don't enjoy your being too fhuqking STUPID,to even "do" that "much". Hint.

Bless your heart for Lying,Crying and Trying.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............


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Thanks!


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.......and for whatever reason, the 6 Creedmore has been on the shelf through the entire "shortage" in my area. No idea why, other than most here probably already have a 243 win and would look to the 6.5 Creedmore for something different. (?)

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A well thunked 21" 243 Kreedmire,will scoot a 110/12 .6xx BC to 3050fps,with magfed Smooches. Hint.

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Making it an exceptionally nice performance to recoil ratio platform,more than a wee bit adept in it's relative abilities. Hint...............


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Personally no interest ( or hate against) the 284 Win. I AM interested in its case necked up to various ca!ibers, like .338, .358 and .375.

There was an artjcle in a Handloader's Digest from the 1970's about the 375-284 Win. It was a Savage 99-based chambering. Part of the story included an description of an interview sportscaster Curt Gowdy had during a MLB Monday night network TV rain-delayed game. Gowdy, host of "the American Sportsman" during same era, interviewed (on air, network TV) a MLB player (Oakland A's Mike Epstein?) about this wildcat he played with.

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Handloader's Digest 6th Edition (1972?)


"The 375-284: A MAGNUM FOR LEVER ACTIONS" by Peter J. Spiliotis (pp 111-115)


Gun used: Savage 99C

Speer 235 grain Spitzer Load: N203 51-57 grains("max") MV: 2750-3390 fps

Speer 270 grain RN: Load: N201 48-54 grains ("max") MV: 2100-2350 fps

barrel length used: 19" (author est. 20-30 fps for each additional inch of barrel length, but testing. Just his estimate)

Max OAL (loaded) 2.80" due to need to fit in Savage model 99C detachable magazine

No information on barrel contour, or rifling twist provided. Bob Snappe of Clare, Michigan did "the conversion work" (which I presume to mean "gunsmithing").

Author's general conclusion was that he felt N201 was the "best" powder for the bullets tested. His reloading powder rate speed from the time of the article was writting shows that Norma 201 was equivalent to IMR 3031. Norma203 was equivalent to IMR 4064/4895.

Author liked the results. A "thumper"

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"I remember reading an article about the 375-284 in either a Handloader Digest or Gun Digest from the late 1960's -early 1970's?? The article went something like...

Curt Gowdy (of baseball announcer fame) was calling a ballgame for NBC. There was a rain delay, and they were killing time for the rain to pass. I THINK they interviewed a ballplayer (Mike Epstein???) during the rain delay, and asked him what he was up to lately, and he replied he was working on a 375-284 wildcat.

Honestly, this was in the first couple of paragraphs of the article. Curt Gowdy was also the host of the then popular network show "The American Sportsman", so he was interested in such stuff.

Anyway, there were loads, specs, and rifle info in that (short) article. I may run across it, and post info on it.

I don't remember any MV much over 2400-2500 fps with a 270 grain bullet from the article- but it's been decades since I read it last.

Hope you can find it. Good short read, and a blast from the past. Can you imagine any network show actually just chatting on-air about handloading like it was a safe, normal and enjoyable activity? Especially NBC?"

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Just adding this entry simply as a "for what it's worth" post since it is related to the 284 Winchester's unique case. Just reading material for fun.


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When I was going through a 284 wildcat phase I did them in 6mm, 25, 6.5mm, 30, 338, 358, and 44. I did them on Remington 722s and Savage 99 C/CDs. Whenever I do a Savage 99 wildcat, I like to do a bolt action rifle for working up loads. A few of those rifles came from the Kittery Trading Post and from Big Al's in Seabrook, NH.

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I have a 6.5 Creedmoor Fieldcraft.

Was really after a 6mm Creed, but beggars can't be choosers and all that.

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A well thunked 21" 243 Kreedmire,will scoot a 110/12 .6xx BC to 3050fps,with magfed Smooches. Hint.


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