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The SAG,a working group that is studying wolf introduction has submitted their recommendations .Interesting read.This is only part of it. Lethal means can be used (with many restrictions ) for wolves depredating livestock,attacking human or pets,but not for wildlife. Wolves will be able to kill any number of deer,elk etc., in the first two phases without repercusisions. It is evident the majority of these people could care less about our hunting.We as sportsmen should be very worried.

You can read the entire article here. See very bottom of how members voted and how.

https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/C...xm-IQVAt8tTttArXeTM5_UMJDWOPtlE9ufob0x4Y


Short Version about wildlife

SAG Report on Impact-Based Management, June 2022 1
Colorado Wolf Restoration and Management Plan
Stakeholder Advisory Group (SAG)
to Colorado Parks and Wildlife (CPW)
Report on Impact-based Management Recommendations
June 2022


● Do not consider translocation of wolves when present but not causing conflict. Translocation
should also not be considered to displace depredating wolves to other areas where they may
continue to cause conflict.
● The definition of a depredation ‘event’ may need to be clarified in the framework as including
death, damage, or injury.
Other wildlife species interactions
The SAG had consensus for consideration of allowance of translocation of specific wolves or wolf packs
confirmed by CPW to be having an unacceptable impact on wild ungulate populations in a geographic unit or
area (i.e., a DAU) and/or for impacts to other species of concern (e.g., threatened and endangered species
such as grouse, lynx, or other species of conservation need etc.).
The SAG discussed but did not have consensus for the following: Refer to Appendix A, Tables A-iii and A-iv
for the vote results on these topics.
● Lethal control of specific wolves or wolf packs confirmed by CPW to be having an unacceptable
impact on wild ungulate populations in a geographic unit or area (i.e., a DAU):
o Not allowed in Phases 1 and 2. (10 out of 15 SAG voting members supported or did not
object; 5 objected)
o Allowed with considerations in Phase 3 (see table for details of considerations). (12 out of 15
SAG voting members supported or did not object; 3 objected)
● Lethal control of specific wolves or wolf packs confirmed by CPW to be significantly reducing or likely
to extirpate other species of concern:
o Not allowed in Phases 1 and 2. (8 out of 15 SAG voting members supported or did not
object; 7 objected)
o Allowed with considerations in Phase 3 (see table for details of considerations). (13 out of 15
SAG voting members supported or did not object; 2 objected)

this debacle is going to follow the same way it went in the northern states of Colo. Once the wolves are established to "sustainable" numbers a hunting season will open to manage them EXCEPT in steps Wildearth Gaurdians and the like and they sue to stop the hunting of wolves crying that there aren't enough of them. And over time the big game numbers start to dwindle and the hunting in this state goes to crap worse then it is now.

Let's face it, the good ol days are gone in this state. Getting worse by the year and we haven't even gotten started with the implants of wolves. We think it's hard to get a big game tag now. Just wait until the wolves start dwindling the numbers even more.

Hell, who needs hunters when there are enough wolves around to kill off the big game.

i live in Minnesota we have way to many wolves and once these wolf protection groups get chapters in Colorado they seem get the protection for wolves and science no longer plays a part in wildlife control for the good of wildlife. no you do not want wolves in your state ,in Minnesota we have so many problems with wolves and lower game animal populations to hunt now too.

When elk numbers dwindl, people will stop buying elk tags and the money flow stops. Then 30-50 %of CPW employees will no longer have a job. Anyone left will be out checking camping permits in state parks. The rank and file have no say in what happens as they have gag order that they can't say anything.

I will be 79 next months and my hunting career is about done. I feel sorry for all the younger ones trying to get started.

Say goodbye to the worlds largest elk herd.

Your elk population will reduce by 75% (it did in WY). Your moose population will reduce (it did in WY). Your deer population will reduce by 50% (more if an illness/parasite attacks the herds, it did in WY). Your game and fish will say it is not a bad thing, even though they know it is. Your G&F will not suffer budget losses, because they will take it from hunters. G&F employees have job security until death. G&F will build massive monuments (offices) to the themselves and they'll do it with your money while saying they have budget shortfalls (they did in WY). When G&F monuments come in under budget, they will squander the surplus on gravel (instead of pit run), so that they make sure all of YOUR money is spent on THEIR castle. You might actually get to hunt wolves in several decades. When you do, you'll be allowed to BUY a tag. Money from that tag will help keep wolves protected. Wolves can hunt your livestock year round, but you can only hunt them during [this time].

You now get to join the hell that is WY, MT, ID, MN, WI ...

Montana has a 5 month elk season and you can kill 3.

Montana has a 6 month wolf season and you can kill 20. 10 by hunting 10 by trapping

That's the whole plan, and openly stated by the animal rights bunch. The plan is to use large predators to reduce game animals to such low numbers that hunting will have to be stopped. Bears don't multiply fast enough. Wolves breed like flies.

Just treat wolves like varmints, SSS and admit to nothing if questioned.

Introduce every last one of them to a bullet!!!

S.S.S

I am all for wolves in Colorado....

But they gave to take one Grizzly bear for every wolf they transplant.... or no deal.

And when they take down the wild horses? The battle between the wild horse and wolf lovers will be epic….

Looks like a chit plan, that'll allow the goal post to be moved when goals are met just like what happened in ID, MT, and WY. Also BS that farmers and ranchers need to be permitted to protect their own property. I went to the planning meeting in Trinidad, and most of what I voiced concerns on they're doing lip service to.

I'm sure a lot of wolves will just dissappear.

Bingo! It is not about the wolves ..... it is to eliminate/reduce sport hunting via reducing game numbers

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Like the wolves in ID. , Mt. , Wy. , now in Washington/Oregon/California +++ ?

Wolves worked so well in Montana reducing elk numbers there is now a 5 month elk season and you can shoot 3.

The whole thing is a biologist industry job security move. They want to 'national park' everything, as in lock up every piece of ground possible to 'preserve' one maybe two animals....Regardless of anything.

They have created a grizzly problem in the same western states also. Same as the wolves, more than they can count and conflicts to match... But we still need more information the Biologist say.... When these things are turning up in rural yards and routinely seen inside city limits, that should say something to the 'educated' biologists'....

I think they should plant some wolves and a few griz in central park, New York and other places as such and just let there beauty be enjoyed by people.

what has happened is the wolves have help chase the elk out of the mountain, now elk stay closer to ranches that is the real problem, no numbers are still lower .and wolves are a real problem.

No doubt that wolves have affected elk in certain areas, Gardiner MT being a good example. But the reality of why the elk have come out of the mountains in many areas is that its much easier to make a living on an irrigated pivot of alfalfa on private land, than it is living in the dry country, especially this time of year. It doesn't have anything to do with wolves.