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Originally Posted by m_stevenson
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He needed center mass... smile
The perp was sideways to the store owner when he got shot, with his arm covering most of his vitals.
Id say he did pretty good at center mass.
He probably had #6 birdshot or something like that in his gun.
I would be glad to send him some #4 buckshot ammo.
I have a box of 00 buckshot I was thinking of dropping off.


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If the store owner dies they can be charged with murder.



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Originally Posted by ol_mike
Don't know what kind of shotgun lets a robber run off yelling. Maybe it didn't have time to visibly bleed ?

If a shotgun like my 870 w/21'' barrel turkey gun shot him it would be a totally different outcome.
A 3'' hevi-shot of #4's, >over with. 40 yard pattern the size of a big dinner plate.

Why would you waste any Hevi shot loads on black guys 4 buck and aim higher.


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Any kind of shot weight, is deadly under 10 yrds, he could be shooting #8 shot and still blow this thugs arm off. Rio7

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Originally Posted by m_stevenson
[quote=rockinbbar] "... He probably had #6 birdshot or something like that in his gun. I would be glad to send him some #4 buckshot ammo.

At that range -- looked like about 15 feet -- just some high base #6s would have been very, very effective, as in "terminal." wink

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Originally Posted by RIO7
Any kind of shot weight, is deadly under 10 yrds, he could be shooting #8 shot and still blow this thugs arm off. Rio7
But double-aught buckshot would have penetrated the shoulder and made it through the thug's heart.

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Hopefully store owner is ok and recovering in same hospital. Would be awesome if he was hovering over the perp when he wakes up.


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I dunno. Jamar and Davon don't sound very Irish to me.

Sounds more Amish to me.
Yup

Aint no way they sound like groids to me.

Sound like punk white bread

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Should have aimed a little higher.


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Originally Posted by RIO7
Any kind of shot weight, is deadly under 10 yrds, he could be shooting #8 shot and still blow this thugs arm off. Rio7

I agree. At that range, about 20 feet, a direct hit of the upper arm bone with #8 shot would have blown the humerus in two. Must have just winged him.

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Elderly store owner Craig Cope speaks out after shooting would-be robber
By Joshua Rhett Miller
August 2, 2022 3:17pm Updated


An elderly California liquor store owner who flipped the script on armed gunmen during an attempted robbery said Tuesday that he had no choice but to open fire on one of the assailants, insisting it was “either him or me.”

Craig Cope, 80, said he feared for his life as four would-be thieves drove up early Sunday to Norco Market & Liquor in Norco, where he was behind the counter when one of the assailants busted in with a rifle and yelled at him to freeze.

Cope said he knew something was off when he saw a dark BMW SUV pull up alongside the store instead of into several nearby open parking spaces. They also “backed in” as they approached, which was another “red flag” for the quick-thinking owner.


“I got a long gun pointing directly at me,” Cope told The Post Tuesday, adding that he feared for his life. “It was either him or me and I was little bit faster.”

“And then I saw them getting out of the car in masks and with guns,” Cope continued. “So, I figured what was going to happen. I just knew they were armed and masked and that they were coming in, so I was ready for them.”

At one point, three of the suspects hopped out of the SUV, while a fourth man stayed behind to act as a getaway driver, Cope said.

Surveillance footage from inside the store shows Cope firing the shotgun just seconds after the gunman announced the robbery, wounding the would-be robber in the arm.

“He was screaming that I shot his arm off,” Cope recalled. “That’s what he said."

Norco in Riverside County is not known as a “high-crime area,” Cope said. Many of the city’s residents own horses and the community is largely conservative.

“It’s not a good area for robbers to come,” Cope said flatly. “Many of the homeowners are conservatives and probably armed. These guys didn’t do their homework.”

Authorities tracked down the four suspects at a Southern California hospital, where one had a gunshot wound consistent with a shotgun blast, according to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department.

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He musta been shooting rock salt like Uncle Jesse.

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The store owner will learn to use #4 buckshot for that application.

It was funny as hell.

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To old to run and to old to fight is a recipe of disaster for a robber.

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So I take it he was hit by California approved "Pepto Bismol?" (bismuth Shot)

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Originally Posted by Craigster
Originally Posted by martinstrummer
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
A few items from the crime:
the gunman with the rifle is in critical condition
the car was stolen and had numerous stolen guns inside
all 4 were caught at the hospital where they took the injured guy and have been arrested, $500k bond each
after it was over, the 80 year old store owner had a heart attack. He's recovering

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Orange is the new black. (makes target acquisition all that more easier too)

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Originally Posted by smarquez
Originally Posted by m_stevenson
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
He needed center mass... smile
The perp was sideways to the store owner when he got shot, with his arm covering most of his vitals.
Id say he did pretty good at center mass.
He probably had #6 birdshot or something like that in his gun.
I would be glad to send him some #4 buckshot ammo.
I have a box of 00 buckshot I was thinking of dropping off.

C'mon, guys!
Consider that pattern density kills, not shot size.
Peter Hathaway Capstick may not have been THE consummate authority, but for sorting out wounded leopards, he claimed that #1 buckshot was (ahem!) the "cat's meow"!

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Originally Posted by smarquez
Originally Posted by m_stevenson
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
He needed center mass... smile
The perp was sideways to the store owner when he got shot, with his arm covering most of his vitals.
Id say he did pretty good at center mass.
He probably had #6 birdshot or something like that in his gun.
I would be glad to send him some #4 buckshot ammo.
I have a box of 00 buckshot I was thinking of dropping off.

C'mon, guys!
Consider that pattern density kills, not shot size.
Peter Hathaway Capstick may not have been THE consummate authority, but for sorting out wounded leopards, he claimed that #1 buckshot was (ahem!) the "cat's meow"!

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