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Some years ago I was hunting on a Texas ranch for deer and pigs. One of the guides had a scope on his Remington package rifle that he said resulted in "weird" eye relief when set a different magnifications--and had bumped his eye hard when shooting his 7mm Remington Magnum.

So I showed him (and several of the other hunters on the trip) how to test eye-relief with a small flashlight. Have described this before in various places, including my two books on hunting optics, but ER is easily measured by gently placing the front end of a small flashlight against the objective lens, then turning it on. You can then hold anything from your palm to a piece of paper behind the rear of the scope, then adjust the distance until the image of the exit pupil is clear. Measure the distance from the rear of the eyepiece to the focused exit pupil, and that's the the eye relief.

When I tested the Remington package scope, the eye relief varied from a little under 2.5 inches to 3 inches, depending on the magnification. No wonder he was getting whacked

Have no idea which company made the scope, but no doubt it was some cut-rate manufacturer.

Bushnell and Simmons have never "made" any scopes. Instead they've always contracted to have them built, and the quality varies depending on which company made them, to which price-point.

I read somewhere that Bushnell supplied the Remington package deal scopes. I wouldn't use one, but I've seen a lot of them in use, and for the hunter who only deer hunts a few times a year, it would probably get him by for a time.

Who makes the scopes on factory Remingtons?

Highest and best use for a take off?

Well back in the bad old days of the late 70's and early 80's lots of 788 remingtons got sold with cheap rings and bases holding a 4x tasco. More than a few of them still going afield ever fall. They are what they are if you don"t like them just get your money out, no one forced you to buy'em...mb

those scope will work for the majority of hunters....

Those that shoot twice a year.

Once, to hit a dinner plate and call it good.

Once to put a deer in the freezer.

Thanks all. This scope has no manufacturer ID on it. I guess I’ll set it aside ‘just in case’.

Years ago, I let a local boy use my shooting range the day before deer season so he could check the zero on his scope. He'd bought a Savage 110 on layaway at Walmart, one that came with a scope. I watched as he set an old 5 gallon bucket out about 50 yards or so away. He had bought a box of 270's, and when he hit the bucket on the third shot, he said the gun was shooting good enough to kill a deer and he wasn't going to shoot it anymore, because he needed the rest of the ammo.

He looked at me like I was crazy when I told him he'd better shoot it a bunch more. The funny thing was that he did kill a deer with it during the season.

I'll be more specific. How many of you have purchased a new rifle because Savage, or some other company, has included a scope?

Alot less frequently than your idiotic posts that's for sure.

How many of you have purchased a rifle because it came with a scope?

Bought a scope that came with a rifle …
B&L 4000 1.5-6x36 in perfect condition attached to a .30’06 Mauser, soon traded away.

I’d take. B&L 4000 in 1.5-6x36 all day long if in good shape. Perfect lever gun scope.