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Garand, given your purist views on marksmanship, how do you feel about the specialized artificial support accoutrements seen here, especially the heavy strapped shooting coat, glove, eye patches, and so on? Don't get me started... Table 1/KD Course of Fire has been gutted, and the pursuit of ever-smaller groups is a mental disorder, like Firearms Collecting v. Acquisition. Good Field marksmanship is ~ 2.5-3 MOA, if you can hit from field positions quickly. Shoot how you run in the field. Me? That's BDU's/Boots, Rifle w/ a 1-1/4" web sling, and a lightly loaded assault pack. While not outstanding, this is at least honest marksmanship. GR
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Garand, given your purist views on marksmanship, how do you feel about the specialized artificial support accoutrements seen here, especially the heavy strapped shooting coat, glove, eye patches, and so on? Don't get me started... Table 1/KD Course of Fire has been gutted, and the pursuit of ever-smaller groups is a mental disorder, like Firearms Collecting v. Acquisition. Good Field marksmanship is ~ 2.5-3 MOA, if you can hit from field positions quickly. Shoot how you run in the field. Me? That's BDU's/Boots, Rifle w/ a 1-1/4" web sling, and a lightly loaded assault pack. While not outstanding, this is at least honest marksmanship. GR 60 yards and in w/ a 10lb rifle resulting in 2 misses on an IPSC sized target, pretty impressive "marksmanship". mike r
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60 yards and in w/ a 10lb rifle resulting in 2 misses on an IPSC sized target, pretty impressive "marksmanship".
mike r Dude, it's all about the technique, not the result.
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Garand, given your purist views on marksmanship, how do you feel about the specialized artificial support accoutrements seen here, especially the heavy strapped shooting coat, glove, eye patches, and so on? Don't get me started... Table 1/KD Course of Fire has been gutted, and the pursuit of ever-smaller groups is a mental disorder, like Firearms Collecting v. Acquisition. Good Field marksmanship is ~ 2.5-3 MOA, if you can hit from field positions quickly. Shoot how you run in the field. Me? That's BDU's/Boots, Rifle w/ a 1-1/4" web sling, and a lightly loaded assault pack. While not outstanding, this is at least honest marksmanship. GR 60 yards and in w/ a 10lb rifle resulting in 2 misses on an IPSC sized target, pretty impressive "marksmanship". mike r Said it was honest... not outstanding. Believe he starts at 100. One miss. And the shots on paper were from 60 yards, w/ no misses. Have an adult watch it with you next time. Let bench-monkeys shoot my M1 rifle at the range all the time, and they do much worse just standin' still. Marksmanship is a skill. GR
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Garand, given your purist views on marksmanship, how do you feel about the specialized artificial support accoutrements seen here, especially the heavy strapped shooting coat, glove, eye patches, and so on? Don't get me started... Table 1/KD Course of Fire has been gutted, and the pursuit of ever-smaller groups is a mental disorder, like Firearms Collecting v. Acquisition. Good Field marksmanship is ~ 2.5-3 MOA, if you can hit from field positions quickly. Shoot how you run in the field. Me? That's BDU's/Boots, Rifle w/ a 1-1/4" web sling, and a lightly loaded assault pack. While not outstanding, this is at least honest marksmanship. GR Honest marksmanship.. In other words, Its only real shooting if it is done your way. The way you like it. The way you have fantasized shooting enemy combatants in your role playing, with your BDUs, web sling and lightly loaded assault pack. It did not go unnoticed that you intentionally did not respond to the questions about how you know "sniping begins at 600 yards" and ignore being schooled on information to the contrary. The term is LARPing. Running around playing dress up and pretending you are Colonel Cooper. Pretending it's 1935 and you are only going to ever be engaged in a phenomenally narrowly pre-determined set of activities such as scouting enemy soldiers and taking notes, which is pure fantasy BS, as compared to what actually happens in the real world. Carry on
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Garand, given your purist views on marksmanship, how do you feel about the specialized artificial support accoutrements seen here, especially the heavy strapped shooting coat, glove, eye patches, and so on? Don't get me started... Table 1/KD Course of Fire has been gutted, and the pursuit of ever-smaller groups is a mental disorder, like Firearms Collecting v. Acquisition. Good Field marksmanship is ~ 2.5-3 MOA, if you can hit from field positions quickly. Shoot how you run in the field. Me? That's BDU's/Boots, Rifle w/ a 1-1/4" web sling, and a lightly loaded assault pack. While not outstanding, this is at least honest marksmanship. GR Honest marksmanship.. In other words, Its only real shooting if it is done your way. The way you like it. The way you have fantasized shooting enemy combatants in your role playing, with your BDUs, web sling and lightly loaded assault pack. It did not go unnoticed that you intentionally did not respond to the questions about how you know "sniping begins at 600 yards" and ignore being schooled on information to the contrary. The term is LARPing. Running around playing dress up and pretending you are Colonel Cooper. Pretending it's 1935 and you are only going to ever be engaged in a phenomenally narrowly pre-determined set of activities such as scouting enemy soldiers and taking notes, which is pure fantasy BS, as compared to what actually happens in the real world. Carry on Actually, prefer cotton ripstop BDU's because I hunt and shoot mainly in the South-East or South-West, and a lot of that is in swamps, piney woods, or desert. BDU's - are not only inexpensive, durable, roomy, light weight, and fast drying, they are also mosquito-proof. Assault Packs - make excellent hunting packs as well. They are milSpec quality nylon and $35. Web Slings - fit the M1 rifle. And, w/ detachable swivels, are just as useful on every other rifle to a marksman. So don't bother writing me into YOUR fantasies, as they are yours and yours lone, to make you feel better. Marksmanship is a skill. Most shooters have none. Watch how they shoot away from the bench and without crutches. GR
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BDUs are mosquito proof. Abandon credibility all who buy into that fantasy. LMAO
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Crutches are useful. Prefer a hasty sling for rabbits, ducks, hogs, and deer. GR
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Well then, show us some pictures of the rabbits, ducks, hogs and deer you have killed.
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Crutches are useful.
Prefer a hasty sling for rabbits, ducks, hogs, and deer.
GR Too bad you need that sling as a crutch. A true marksman hits what he's aiming at using nothing but his body for support. Marksmanship is a skill.
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Crutches are useful.
Prefer a hasty sling for rabbits, ducks, hogs, and deer.
GR Too bad you need that sling as a crutch. A true marksman hits what he's aiming at using nothing but his body for support. Marksmanship is a skill. That it is. It's already on the rifle... we use them to carry it in the field. Multi-tool. Although some hunting, like rabbits or hogs in the thickets, is easier without it. 8>) GR
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If you read through the thread, you will see that Natural Support is addressed.
It's part of being a hunter.
So is basic Marksmanship.
Bringing crutches with you into the field?
... is Special Olympics. GR LOL, why does the name Charles Emerson Winchester III pop into my head every time I read one of your posts? Damn, isn't that the truth.
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Damn, isn't that the truth.
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Hunting Jack Rabbits w/ your CF hunting rifle is great practice for hogs and running deer. We also put cardboard centers into old motorcycle tires and roll them down the canyons. Marksmanship is a skill. GR
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