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What is the consensus on a 30 caliber 180 grain round nose bullet? Hornady vs sierra. Or are they both pretty good bullets? I have a load for my 308 that shoots bug holes with the 180 gr. sierra. Have yet to try the hornady version.

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All I have ever used was Sierra, so can't say .180 in the .038, 220 in the.06. A lot of folks poo-poo how accurate they are or say they are not any good past 200yards. bull feces.


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I don’t know what you’re looking to hunt but I can’t see a 308 stressing out a 180 grain bullet. Should be about as perfect as it gets for impact speeds you’d use a RN for.


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Originally Posted by saddlesore
A lot of folks poo-poo how accurate they are or say they are not any good past 200yards. bull feces.

I was looking at an old Hornady manual today for loads for my 300H&H. 220gr RNs @ 2600fps are only 14" low at 300yds.

Haven't tried it yet.

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Been thinking about trying some. My M70 .308 has a throat like Linda Lovelace. No way will pointy bullets loaded to magazine length come close. Looked around recently and there were none available. Shots here are close, so BC’s not much of a concern.


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Originally Posted by saddlesore
All I have ever used was Sierra, so can't say .180 in the .038, 220 in the.06. A lot of folks poo-poo how accurate they are or say they are not any good past 200yards. bull feces.

Over the years I've taken deer at 300 to 400 yds using a 220 grain RN... use to be my favorite bullet in an 06.
not flat shooting necessarily, but with its sectional density and wt, it was certainly wind defying...

If you knew how to compensate and get it to hit targets at that distance, there was no problem downing a deer with proper shot placement.
at 300, impact foot pounds, wasn't a big number.. but every time I've done it, it would pass right thru the deers vitals and exit out the other side.

that is why I am a big believer in sectional density... all I ever got was a bang/flop ending...

there would be a small bullet hole going in and a small one on exit... but post mortem processing, it would look like the lungs, heart and chest cavity
had been stirred with a chain saw. each time the deer went down at the shot.
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I still prefer a RN first then an SMP second, then a ballistic tip, and a partition style 4th...haven't used a lot of Barnes, but only like two kills with them... both in 22 caliber out of a 22.250... both were bang/flop scenarios also.


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You better get them while you can. People want spitzers. With a few exceptions, RNs will disappear. Fast and pointy is king!


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I've got a box of the well regarded Woodleigh Weldcore 180's for my .308 Savage M_99. Have yet to try them as I'm working thru all the 180 Speer Mag tips & Hot cores 1st.

Have a few black bears on my terminal list.

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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
You better get them while you can. People want spitzers. With a few exceptions, RNs will disappear. Fast and pointy is king!

Probably a lot of truth in that. Although for a lot of these guys' application they will work just fine. When I was a kid, I burned up quite a few 220gr RN bullets in my 30-06. Just be careful, the 250 doesn't work well in the 308 win:
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Picked up several hundred Hornady 220 RN on hopes to try in an 30-06. Trouble is there's only elk and bear season and that's it here so that's pretty limited. I'm already trying out an 270win for first time so I just wish there was.other things to hunt. Oh well .

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Originally Posted by thumbcocker
What is the consensus on a 30 caliber 180 grain round nose bullet? Hornady vs sierra. Or are they both pretty good bullets? I have a load for my 308 that shoots bug holes with the 180 gr. sierra. Have yet to try the hornady version.

I am not a gunwriter. I have tried both Sierra and Hornady round nose 180 grain bullets in my .308 Winchester rifles (I have seven; I really only need one). They are both reliable.


I shot 180 grain Sierra round nose bullets for several years in my .308's hunting whitetail deer in the north central Pennsylvanian woods (this is hardly long range shooting). I switched to Hornady because they are slightly softer. They can be very accurate if the rifle likes them (I had a Ruger No. 1 in .308 for a while which despised both Sierra and Hornady, but loved the Speer 180 grain roundnose, which I believe is now discontinued). The Sierra may be a bit more accurate than the Hornady (One inch five shot groups at 100 yards vs one and a quarter inch.) The Hornady was accurate enough to take out a coyote with a dead center hit a couple of years ago. They open up well and exit with a good blood trail. I occasionally try other bullets and keep returning to them in the rifles that like them.

I laid in a good supply of the Hornadys a few years ago when they were still inexpensive and available. As the years pass, I probably now have a lifetime supply.

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As long as there tube fed 30/30's, they will still make round nose and flat nose bullets.

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If I could find more Hornady RN 220’s I’d buy em. Maybe even a few 180’s. Got a good supply of 150’s.

But my favorite are 220’s. They are pure magic in the .30 Army! 😁

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Maybe I’ll try the 220 grain Hornadys again. So far no luck regarding acceptable accuracy. I think I still have a partial box unless I gave it away.


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I've used the 180 gr. Sierra round nose back when I lived in California. I hunted the Northwest corner of the state and they worked just fine on deer. There were Black Bears there as well so the state issued two tags for bear for IIRC, $200. Bring in the ears of two bears and you got two more tags for free.Guess those days are long gone now. Never used a 180 gr. Hornady as for some reason my San Francisco LGSs back then either could get them ot just didn't bother. It wasn't into sometime in the mid 1970s that I bought a Hornady bullet. That was to feed a new to me .243 I just bought. I've shot a few Hornady bullets when doing load work ups IIRC, the only game shot was four or maybe five deer when I let neighborhood kids do a deer hunt with my rifle. They worked just fine.
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Originally Posted by Bogtrotter
As long as there tube fed 30/30's, they will still make round nose and flat nose bullets.

The trouble there is that a bullet designed for 30-30 velocities might not work well in a 300magnum or vice versa.

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At normal hunting ranges <300 yards, the POI difference in RN vs pointy means nothing on big game.

However the reliabilty of a big cup and core is well worth a bit more drop.


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The 220s 30s are great, shame we can't get the 250 Woodleighs any more.

I have 500 of the Hornady 160 6.5s as they will kill anything in the lower 48.


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Originally Posted by UpThePole
I have 500 of the Hornady 160 6.5s as they will kill anything in the lower 48.

I bought 400 pcs of 175gr RNs for a 275Rigby I was having built. Mastermind me didn't account for the short throat on the match reamer so I couldn't use them.

Had to go with 120gr NBTs instead.

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