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Thanks, saved the link.

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Mike, this is one of those things you can only know for yourself. My wife wouldn't think of day hiking or backpacking without trekking poles. I don't like them.

Before there was such a thing as "trekking poles," somewhere around 1977 I struck upon the idea of using two ski poles for backpacking. I'd never seen anyone do such a thing, and did several backpack trips with them before I decided I preferred a single staff which was my go to walking aid at the time.

After the ski pole experiment I stuck to a traditional "staff" (think Colin Fletcher, The Complete Walker) through the 1980's. Then in 1992 I switched to a cane - somewhere I'd found a lightweight, composite, geriatric cane and it struck me as similar to the "walking height" ice axe I preferred for some climbs. I tried it on a trip in the Bob Marshall, and was hooked. Nothing in the last 30 years has induced me to change.

At the end of the day, having a "third point of contact" is really quite important for safety in the mountains, no matter your preference of poles, staff, or cane.


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Also good for thumping snakes.


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Originally Posted by 1minute
Also good for thumping snakes.

Ha! True - I killed a big ole Southern rattler (12 buttons) in the NC mountains with my staff on a 2.5 mo's long AT hike.


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Look at Black Diamond. VERY good company. VERY good quality! Their Distance compact 2-person tent which uses their Distance Carbon FLZ-AR Trekking poles.

https://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en_US/product/distance-tent-w-adapter/

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I have a Mega-Mid that I really like.

Trying to decide whether or not to sew a stove-jack into it.

I don't like the bright blue, don't like the dull blue on the MM, prefer green/tan/grey myself.

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I have a SeekOutside Little Bug Out with the added tarp. It’s got a stove jack, and I can use a trekking pole. Packs down really small and it’s super well made.

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Both my solo and duo three season shelters are trekking pole shelters. The solo uses a single pole, the duo double poles. Both are pretty sturdy shelters, but come winter I want crossing tent poles. Quicker/easier setup and simply sturdier with snow loads and wind.

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Originally Posted by Brad
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Brad,

I had forgotten you use a Cane, is it an ultralite piece?

Mike, it's a Komperdell Power Walk "Walking Staff" (cane) - weigh's 8.5 oz's.

Here's a GREAT deal on them - sign up for text notifications and receive an additional 10% off for a total of $39.14 shipped:

https://www.mountainsteals.com/prod...81YdjmEpYQMk0H6j1rlh0fLVckIaAtLBEALw_wcB

I have trekking poles, but only really use them snowshoeing. For general backpacking and mountain hunting, for me the cane is the only way to go. I truly dislike having both hands committed to trekking poles - think of the cane as a "walking height" ice axe. I have mine set at 90cm.

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Brad - I’ve never seen such a cane. Very interesting! I may order one to try. Your emphasis on the importance of a third point of contact really got me thinking.

Great post!

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Third point of contact = wider base of support


Could never get past the extra holes.

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Originally Posted by PintsofCraft
Brad - I’ve never seen such a cane. Very interesting! I may order one to try. Your emphasis on the importance of a third point of contact really got me thinking.

Great post!

Pints, I never go anywhere in the backcountry without my cane! Us over-60 guys need all the help we can get grin

My wife snapped this of yours truly a couple weeks ago...

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^ good thing there was a bridge- that creek is rocking! laugh

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Originally Posted by mtwarden
^ good thing there was a bridge- that creek is rocking! laugh


It really was! Heck of a snowpack in the Gallatin this year, as I'm sure it was further north your way.

As to my thinking the photo was "a couple weeks back" - well, I checked... I suppose technically June 18th was! 3 days before my 61st b-day.


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We had a decent snowpack, but what made an interesting year is how long the mountains held that snow- but when it did go, it really went! laugh

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I bought two different models from Tarptent this year to see if I like the trekking pole setup.

I used one on a scouting trip and liked the design, setup, and features for the weight. Basically a one man tent that can handle moderate wind and light snow, double wall, partial solid interior for blowing debris, and around two pounds +/-. I'll probably sell one, but am tempted to keep both.

Most tents that have dedicated poles that I considered were closer to three pounds, have more mesh, and are not suggested for any snow. I don't need a full blown winter tent, but want to save weight and pack space when feasible. Plus all my backpacking stuff is from the mid-nineties so it's been fun checking out the new stuff!

I like the look of the Durston X-mid as well, which is similar to the Tarptent Stratospire. Dan Durston has posted some helpful comments about materials and designs, especially what to choose for wind versus snow loads.

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^ which two shelters from TT?

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Stratospire 1 and Notch Li.

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Ahhhh- I have the Aeon Li and the Stratospire Li (2 person)- I use the Aeon backpacking outside of hunting season and winter, the Stratospire Li is pretty weatherproof (wind/rain/medium snow) and have been using it fall/winter.

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Originally Posted by mtwarden
Ahhhh- I have the Aeon Li and the Stratospire Li (2 person)- I use the Aeon backpacking outside of hunting season and winter, the Stratospire Li is pretty weatherproof (wind/rain/medium snow) and have been using it fall/winter.

The Stratospire Li seems like an awesome tent and is still at the top of my list, especially if I have one of my young children with me. If it was available when I was shopping, I definitely would have bought it and probably would have been done right there. But it hasn't been available.

I didn't want to wait until the last minute for the next expected shipment (mid September now) so I started with the Stratospire 1. I like the design and the new silpoly material in theory. Seems like a pretty solid design. But then, the "what if" crept into my brain and I bought the Notch Li that I had previously dismissed.

I haven't used the Notch Li on a trip yet, but I really like it. It's definitely small inside, but I measured it at ~1.3 pounds and it has all the features that I want. I do wish the fly went a freckle lower to the ground, but I don't see myself swapping it out for something else. Except for a two man tent if I have child with me, or I need the extra space.

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Henry makes pretty darn good shelters smile

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