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I tend to agree somewhat about the ROT as far as some of the Remington rifles go. But you have to remember this, cartridges like the 223 and 22-250 were designed around the lighter weight bullets, and the original ROT's were perfectly fine. Personally, they don't hinder me in the least. I have 3 Remington bolt rifles in 223, one is a 1-12, the other 2 are 1-9. I like 50 and 55 grain bullets in them, so they work. My 22-250 is 1-14, and I shoot 40's, and sometimes 50's and 52's, so the ROT in it is okay as well. If I was a fan of the heavier weight 22 bullets, I'd certainly want the faster twist rates, especially in the 22-250.

I mostly agree. There isn’t much downside to a faster twist but the overly heavy for caliber bullets has gotten a bit out of hand IMO for hunting rifles. At typical hunting ranges a faster bullet shoots flatter and hits harder. Most of us aren’t shooting past 500 yards or even close to that far.

Sorry, never had a complaint on Remington twist. I don’t see the need to spin bullets faster than they need to be.
Too fast a twist on varmint bullets cause then to explode before they hit the target. Evidently some people like that. I don’t.

This.....I guess. If you need heavier get a bigger gas tank.

A 14 twist will run most poly tipped 55 grain bullets fine. That's about as heavy as needs ran in the little cartridge.

They weren't intended to run heavy bullets. Light and fast to 400 or so.

Take a 22-250 with a 50 grain bullet at 3800+ and it can catch a running coyote rather easily.

are they going to replace that stupid trigger?

Were the pre-Remarms 700 mountain rifles 5R?

I do not believe so.

My primary concern is; Did they fix the bolt extraction timing issue? If not, it's a no-go for me.

Do they offer a faster twist in the .22's and the .243? Given the popularity of heavier bullets and monos where lead is verboten, for those I think it would be wise to go to a faster twist.

I could see a 1:9" twist for a .22-250, allowing the 50gr family as well as up to the 80's to be functional.

My Ruger Predator in .243 shoots 55's through the 107's just fine with its 1:8" twist.

Just my $0.02

Ed

"*the chamber is now 100% CNC machined" I doubt this, chambers are going to be reamed not shaped with a boring bar.
*the recoil lug is now made parallel to .0002” I also doubt this, be tough to measure.

A CNC machine can't hold a reamer?

Remington (RemArms) needs to focus on things people want out of a 700. If I were in charge, here is what I would do:

-Ensure and verify ever bolt is timed properly before it leaves the factory.

-Ensure every recoil lug is parallel and start pinning them to the receiver to ensure proper alignment.

-Improve timing of factory threads and ensure machining would allow pre-fit barrels.

-Begin making premium finishes, perhaps nitride, were standard.

-Work out a deal to ensure every 700 comes with a Trigger Tech trigger out of the box.

-Improve all twist rates and throats to ensure modern, premium bullets were optimized. For example, twist .243 Winchesters to 1:8" and throat them for something more like a 103 gr ELD-X rather than an 80 gr Core-Lokt.

-Incorporate quality stocks on base models that won't flex and will free-float the barrel, even under a load.

-Offer semi-custom rifles; optional carbon fiber stocks, carbon fiber barrels, cerakote, bolt fluting, etc. for a premium.

When people want cheap rifles, they buy Axis, American, TCs, etc. When people want good quality rifles, they spend more. If the quality of a Tikka T3x, Browning X-Bolt, or Bergara can't be met for a similar price, the 700 is doomed.

I guess if you want you could call reaming "machined". I just took it to mean they used a boring bar.

No matter the type of lathe I'd classify things like turning, threading, facing, reaming as machine operations.

Plenty of custom rifles out there for what it would cost to build one of these.

Tikka, Browning or Bergara don't have what most would consider a quality stock that won't "flex". Have owned em.

As far as twist goes 90% of the crowd that doesn't follow the trend on the net is perfectly happy with original twists that most chamberings came with.

Throat something in a 243 for a 103 and it may not be worth a ph.uuuck for a 55-70 grain bullet.

Easier just to buy a good Remington.

That means 721 or 722.

I like the two 700s I have, but they were both built in the late 60s and the only thing remington on either is the action bolt body and recoil lug.......

You do realize that for a fixed overall cartridge length that VLD bullet designs may actually want a shorter throat than lighter conventional designs, right?

Every fuqking rifle on the planet must have the fastest twist barrel available so that it may stabilize the highest BC bullets know to man kind. Makes no difference if 95%of the owners can use it or desire it.

It just has to be. The internet says so.

Ain't that the truth.

What about this?: My 223 is twisted on the faster side and it shoots heavier, longer bullets great. It also shoots 40 grain Ballistic Tips great.