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Speaking of crutches, is that how you get around the old folks home? "Runnin' 3-miles a day, and shooting < 4 MOA from field positions, keeps the crutches away." - GR -
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THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running!www.lostriverammocompany.com
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Marksmanship - is a skill. ... you probably lack. Using memes to hide behind is juvenile. Try learning to shoot, instead. < 4 MOA - is not all that difficult. GR
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This article is Six(6) years old. ... and this nonsense is now in full bloom. ... The competition world tends to push the limits of gear and bullets, so new advances are needed to win each year. The 6.5 became an answer to the .308 in competition because it offered better ballistics and less recoil for playing a game. Yes, I said it. Better ballistics for playing a game. The slightly cringworthy idea of tactical rifle shooting was born and a new generation of wannabe snipers stepped up ring steel. This is harsh, but true.
The sport was later re-branded as Practical competition, which is kinda odd seeing as how it isn’t really practical at all. But then again I shoot at circles with a 100 year old Mauser, so I guess I shouldn’t comment too much on the matter. Alas, people playing sniper led to the trend in modern 6.5mm rifles and PRS competition was established, which has given the idea some actual weight in the community in recent years....Prophetic. ... and all at the expense of basic rifleman skills. GR
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Please regale us with all of your worldly experiences as a professional shooter.
The deployments you were on, what theater of operation, etc.
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running!www.lostriverammocompany.com
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Marksmanship - is a skill. ... you probably lack. Using memes to hide behind is juvenile. Try learning to shoot, instead. < 4 MOA - is not all that difficult. GR
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Gentlemen
It’s obvious that we have met the fulfillment of
“ stupidity is a bottomless pit “
I’m out.
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Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!
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Speaking of crutches, is that how you get around the old folks home? "Runnin' 3-miles a day, and shooting < 4 MOA from field positions, keeps the crutches away." - GR - LOL 3 miles is just a warm up Boomer.
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Speaking of crutches, is that how you get around the old folks home? "Runnin' 3-miles a day, and shooting < 4 MOA from field positions, keeps the crutches away." - GR - LOL 3 miles is just a warm up Boomer. Why run it. ... at 04:30, after a 1:15 min. workout, and 15 min. more afterward. Then my day starts. No crutches here, little one. ... just basic riflemen skills. GR
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Gentlemen
It’s obvious that we have met the fulfillment of
“ stupidity is a bottomless pit “
I’m out.
Jerry Come back when you can't stay as long, and have even less to contribute. GR
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Please regale us with all of your worldly experiences as a professional shooter.
The deployments you were on, what theater of operation, etc. I wanna hear too. Pleeaassse
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Hey OP, if this is purely about marksmanship, why put the thread in the big game forum ? & yes, I too, think you're a trolling dumbass !
Paul.
"Kids who grow up hunting, fishing & trapping, do not mug little old Ladies"
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Speaking of crutches, is that how you get around the old folks home? "Runnin' 3-miles a day, and shooting < 4 MOA from field positions, keeps the crutches away." - GR - LOL 3 miles is just a warm up Boomer. Why run it. ... at 04:30, after a 1:15 min. workout, and 15 min. more afterward. Then my day starts. No crutches here, little one. ... just basic riflemen skills. GR Thats all? Easy day no wonder no cruches. I have a 50k ultra coming up, and there is still time for you to get in Boomer. Let me know if you want in.
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Speaking of crutches, is that how you get around the old folks home? "Runnin' 3-miles a day, and shooting < 4 MOA from field positions, keeps the crutches away." - GR - LOL 3 miles is just a warm up Boomer. Why run it. ... at 04:30, after a 1:15 min. workout, and 15 min. more afterward. Then my day starts. No crutches here, little one. ... just basic riflemen skills. GR Thats all? Easy day no wonder no cruches. I have a 50k ultra coming up, and there is still time for you to get in Boomer. Let me know if you want in. Thanks for the offer, sport, but the knees don't like the long runs anymore. 2.5 Mi. - gives me a leisurely 20 min. run... ending up at the park for pull-ups and bar-dips, then a 0.5 mi. run home, for time, gets what's left. Best of luck to ya, as 50k is a stretch of road. GR
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Hey OP, if this is purely about marksmanship, why put the thread in the big game forum ? & yes, I too, think you're a trolling dumbass ! Opinions are like [bleep]... and you are proof of that. If you can find an adult to help you with this thread, you will come to understand that it's RE: Field Marksmanship. Rifleman skills - neglected and ignored. So, don't get your man-bun in a twist, junior. Just try learning to shoot. GR
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A 13 yo living out his fantasy while playing call to duty or, much worse, an adult who has become a legend in his own mind. I think what you have been constantly spouting "marksmanship is a skill" is correctly stated Marksmanship is a "perishable" skill. Another on ignore!
Shew me thy ways, O LORD: teach me thy paths. "there are few better cartridges on Earth than the 7 x 57mm Mauser" "the .30 Springfield is light, accurate, penetrating, and has surprising stopping power"
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A 13 yo living out his fantasy while playing call to duty or, much worse, an adult who has become a legend in his own mind. I think what you have been constantly spouting "marksmanship is a skill" is correctly stated Marksmanship is a "perishable" skill. Another on ignore! Not if one never had it to begin with. Enjoy your ego, and your crutches... alone. GR
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4MOA accuracy is what it is, and ain't what it ain't. What it is: Satisfactory marksmanship for new recruits. Satisfactory accuracy for hitting a torso out to 300 yards, most of the time....where any hit is a good hit. A standard most recruits will be able to master in the limited time available in recruit training. What it ain't: It is not precision accuracy or even close, by any measure. Certainly nothing to promote as a "skill". When mastery of basic marksmanship is combined with modern equipment (and mine is actually fairly dated any more), sub 1 moa out to past 1000 yards is achievable by most any rifleman who can apply the fundamentals of marksmanship. My precision rifles are fairly basic. 308 Win, and 30-06, 10X or 12X glass. Rem 700 rifles with some upgrades in stocks, triggers. I handload my precision ammo. All these targets are from prone on the ground, not on a groomed firing line. Typical results using a Harris bipod, and a rear beanbag: 100 yards, 10 rounds, .65" group: 560 yards, sub-moa. The square is 5"x 5" 1120 yards, sub-moa. The square is 5" x 5". And yes, I've shot on the USMC rifle qual courses many, many, times with the M16A1 and M16A2. Rifle Expert, 16th Award. It's no great feat to master. Certainly nothing to carry on about like Garand is doing. Garand, you like what you like, and that's fine. No harm, no foul, in any of that. But you are not impressing anyone with your close-minded and derisive remarks toward anything other than 'your way'. Your way is very basic, and with it come a lot of limitations.
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Hey OP, if this is purely about marksmanship, why put the thread in the big game forum ? & yes, I too, think you're a trolling dumbass ! Opinions are like [bleep]... and you are proof of that. If you can find an adult to help you with this thread, you will come to understand that it's RE: Field Marksmanship. Rifleman skills - neglected and ignored. So, don't get your man-bun in a twist, junior. Just try learning to shoot. GR Pretty sure I've got the field marksmanship thingy covered ! & this bald head, has never had enough hair for your bun comment !
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I sure hope you weren't using a rest for that buck.
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