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Or the demand is dying. I did a quick check today and found 3 Chevy Duramax 2500 LT trucks for $62,000.00. I called Dave Smith and they have 1 2500 LTZ for $70,000.00.

In January, I couldn’t find a single truck over 1/2 ton in the entire western US. Dave Smith said that GM has decided that they will build trucks as they get orders, and maybe not deal with filling lots with trucks anymore.

The news isn’t worth listening to, Biden has wrecked the American economy and what once made America great has been diminished to bicycle riders and people smeared with tattoos.

All of a sudden, robbing a bank doesn’t sound like such a bad idea…


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Wonder if the chip thing is still an issue??

I bet there are close to 2000 F-150 s sitting on a huge lot just up the street from where I work.

Also wondering if the slow down is people waiting for the stuff to hit the fan in the next 6 months to 1 year.

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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Wonder if the chip thing is still an issue??

I bet there are close to 2000 F-150 s sitting on a huge lot just up the street from where I work.

Also wondering if the slow down is people waiting for the stuff to hit the fan in the next 6 months to 1 year.


You have witnessed that personally?

I have heard rumors, just nothing proving that. I can’t imagine what a year old truck will be worth when all those chips are supposed to arrive.

Meanwhile they seem to be building and selling trucks, where are they getting those chips?


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I can try to snap a pic if I remember when I leave work tonight.

I was estimating it as a 20 acre lot, Earth measure it as 34 acres.

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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
I can try to snap a pic if I remember when I leave work tonight.


Awesome! Is this just a Ford thing?


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Yes. I know of 2 other lots about 15-20 miles north that are loaded the same.


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Here is one of em. Last time I was by there it was more full than this pic. Not sure when this image was taken.


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All of those reflective glares is the top of trucks.
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Probably a half dozen or more light towers going over them every night.
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That's probably where my f150 was sitting the 8 times it was delayed.

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I recently did the truck thing.
What a mess.
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Worst time ever to buy a new vehicle

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maybe they are holding them for the Chinks, when they come to take over after the end of the Biden Administration this fall.


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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Yes. I know of 2 other lots about 15-20 miles north that are loaded the same.


I live within 50 miles of the Super Duty plant in Louisville, and for awhile this spring, they had every lot in the area (including right up the road from me) filled with Super Dutys awaiting chips. Due to downsizing at Ft. Knox, our little town has a lot of strip malls that are empty, Ford fenced them in and used them for overflow.


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I could use 5 new/newer trucks right now, We’re waiting til the bottom falls out though. My insurance agent said they’re selling more gap insurance policies than they ever have. People afraid prices will crash and in the event it’s totaled they want the pay off to be covered even if it’s more than the “new” value.



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Chip issue isn't going away until early- to mid-2023. Build trucks & park them; you can't makeup profit for a truck you never built, but you can plug in a chip later after it becomes available. In Detroit alone Ford had 30K+ pickups parked, but that number has been whittled down as chips arrive. And just in time for a potential recession and escalating interest rates making expensive trucks even less affordable. Talk about the perfect storm. LGB.

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Originally Posted by kappa8
Chip issue isn't going away until early- to mid-2023. Build trucks & park them; you can't makeup profit for a truck you never built, but you can plug in a chip later after it becomes available. In Detroit alone Ford had 30K+ pickups parked, but that number has been whittled down as chips arrive. And just in time for a potential recession and escalating interest rates making expensive trucks even less affordable. Talk about the perfect storm. LGB.


I think you nailed it.

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Originally Posted by kappa8
Chip issue isn't going away until early- to mid-2023. Build trucks & park them; you can't makeup profit for a truck you never built, but you can plug in a chip later after it becomes available. In Detroit alone Ford had 30K+ pickups parked, but that number has been whittled down as chips arrive. And just in time for a potential recession and escalating interest rates making expensive trucks even less affordable. Talk about the perfect storm. LGB.


I guess I don’t understand why you can order a new truck and get it, while there are trucks already made and undeliverable because they have no chips?


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Chip issue isn't going away until early- to mid-2023. Build trucks & park them; you can't makeup profit for a truck you never built, but you can plug in a chip later after it becomes available. In Detroit alone Ford had 30K+ pickups parked, but that number has been whittled down as chips arrive. And just in time for a potential recession and escalating interest rates making expensive trucks even less affordable. Talk about the perfect storm. LGB.


I guess I don’t understand why you can order a new truck and get it, while there are trucks already made and undeliverable because they have no chips?

Not sure, but it seems Ford is having more issues than Ram for example. I ordered a Ram 2500 in late February and picked it up in June. A good friend of mine ordered a F450 in early November and still doesn't have a delivery date.

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I’ve heard of several people not taking the trucks they ordered once they come in. I found one on the lot built in mid June, I bought it late June. One was right beside it that the guy who ordered backed out on. That seems to be helping with the back log.

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