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We have a 2.5 year old wire haired pointing griffon that we bred to a highly recommended stud WPG about 8 weeks ago.

I'm new to this but did make sure we got all the OFA certifications before we bred her. She is certified for hips, elbows, patella, thyroid heart, and I even drive her to SLC to get her vision certified. She's a smart and healthy dog but I haven't hunted with her much mostly due to my health problems. She has really come around though in the last year as I've worked with her more. She has an excellent nose and we haven't been able to hide a bird she couldn't find. She comes from great hunting lines and the stud hunts a bunch.

I've never had a dog that's had pups so this will be a first. What things do I need to be prepared for? We have a 6 foot plastic kiddie pool ready with lots of nesting blankets. Will she likely chew off the cords or will we need to cut them? Do we need a bulb syringe on hand to suction pups? I've delivered human babies but not pups.

Also, we will be giving large discounts to any fire member that can provide a pup with a good hunting home.

Bb

Mom will most likely have her motherly instincts kick in and chew the cords. Sometimes though, they can get a little too rough and tug too hard or get too close and cause umbilical hernias. For that reason, we usually try to cut the cords ourselves about an 1 1/2" long. It is okay for mom to eat the sack as it will help her hormones to kick in and get the milk production flowing. Too many will make her sick and throw up though. We tend to let them eat the first sack or two and then try to dispose of the rest if possible. Certainly have something to suction the pups. We use a infant nose bulb sucker. Suck fluid out of the nose and mouth as quickly and as best you can to clear the lungs. We like to have puppy pads close by and use them to stimulate/rub down the pups when they are born and clean them up. A towel could work, but the pads are disposable and it is going to be a bloody, mucus filled mess, believe me! A heating pad with a blanket over top is also helpful so the new pups stay warm. Mom will start labor when her temp drops. It is a good idea to take her temperature regularly as she approaches her date. Once the pups start coming, she should never go an extended period (3-4 Hours would start getting me a little worried) without another one until she is done. Have your vet on standby. Best of luck to you!

Good luck. Just a safe warm environment. Yes bulb to clear airways

Do you know how to diagnose delivery problems ?

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I have two wpgs Pass on to a friend

Evenin, any pics of momma & stud? Also need pics of allll pups when they get here. I can't in good conscience get one, 72 yrs this fall. Dog may out live me, who would take care of it as well as me? But I can still dream dam it!!! GWP. 🐾👣🐾👣🇨🇦

Just took her to the vet for an Xray and she's carrying 10 pups. They are do the 31st. I guess I better figure out how to post pics.

Bb

Looks like ribka was right on with his video of how to handle 10 pups. Ten it is.

Bb

BB, posted this in the main forum but I’ll ask again. Is this the one with the serious gun shy issue? Did that get resolved?

Do you have a whelping box?

If not build one right now!

Notice the rail inside the whelping box to keep the mother from smothering puppies.

Burleyboy, how did it turn out?

sent pm to you ....if you dont mind....bob

Questions for the gallery. Can be generic or specific to this breed. Input is appreciated.

(Full disclosure, we're taking one from this litter as a full time family dog and casual bird dog. BB can explain further if he desires regarding the litter. The Stud's pedigree is pretty impressive, even a novice can see.)


Question about "runt of the litter". Would one expect the smallest female to be a small adult? Is that a bad trait? We are not show dog folks for sure.



Prickly pears! What do I need to know?


Just curious, how much are stud fees, I've always just volunteered?


Added. Given the stud's pedigree, might choosing a male from the line be -"best"?

A teaser. The runt.

Boom- I’m not a breeder, but what I’ve seen:

Runts will typically be smaller as adults than litter mates.

Prickly pears are a type of cactus. 😂

Stud fees as per conversations with a couple breeders (I own a bitch wpg) - equal to the cost of a pup or a pick of the litter.

M or F is totally up to you. You want to deal with heat cycles? Make sure she don’t get knocked up by the dumb azz lab that always gets out? Deal with birthing and raising pups for a few months? Granted, it can be decent compensation considering the cost of pups.

A male you can stud out and simply get a pup when they are ready.

Are you going to test the dog? Penn, OFA, NAVHDA?
If I’m going to lay out cash for a dog, I look for a breeder that hunts a lot. Training hunting dogs is a big one as well. I trust he will do well to further the objectives of the breed and not rely solely on confirmation and pedigree.

Schit to consider.

Good luck with the pup! Love my WPG. She’s been a great dog.

There are runts and then there are weak fragile runts. The first can grow into normal size adults. Even if they are on the small size, they still may be the prize of the litter.

The other is a gamble.

mtnboomer....griffons are a soft dog...at least the 2 I have had....1 at my feet now...tuff as nails in the field but soft when it comes to correction....dont lose your temper with them or yell meanly at them.

good dogs...very loyal ...bob

Thanks gentlemen. All good inputs. Family's decision is female. Trying to decide which. Really looking forward to it. Think I found a shotgun I need! LOL

yep. Its amazing when the switch flips on in the field

We made our selection.

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Holy crap that is a cute pup! congrats

Have pictures of the pup and mother ? Hope they are all well

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We're getting pretty excited about it. A couple more weeks.

(BB said that was pointing a grouse wing.)

The new pup is beautiful!

On the white body there is a secondary coloring that is darker. One of my GWPs has that same coloring. Not to alter your post thought you might like to see the before and after pics to get a clue how she may look when older. Her hair may be longer but thinking same sort of coloring.

Enjoy the puppy days they grow up fast. Some great hunting days are in your future!

Very true. Great dogs but sensitive feelings! My Griff is in my lap right now but will be strictly business when phez opens Saturday in Kansas.

Doing okay, nothing unusual for a pup as far as we know... A cold spell hasn't been great, who wants to be out at 8F?, but, we're making progress with some basics. I've been home this past week and she's really taken to me and is eager to please, especially for a good dosage of chest rubbing! She's still trying to make friends with the cat, who isn't very enthusiastic about it all.

Today she was cute, seemed to think my propane space heater was a fire-breathing monster, until I shut it off and petted it. Then she gave it a good sniffing and moved along to other concerns.

She has a tendency to lift that foot, here saying let's go back inside, it's cold! She's got a corner with a heat vent and seems pretty content, beds in her kennel on her own... Starting to let us know it's time to go pee. Looking forward to more maturity.

Great pics of your new pup! Keep them coming!

Man....I just turn into a big old b!tch around puppies....LMAO 😂😂😂 I wish I could get a new one every 6 months but then I come to my senses..... babies too as a matter of fact..... kind of nice to see the parents take em home lol. I had a GWP and would love another but we have 3 dogs right now (a 2 year old, 6 year old, and a 12).... It just wouldn't be fair.

Congrats Boomer.... you gonna do the Snowman and Fred thing and take her on the road?

First discovered the WPG breed in a small outdoor bookstore near Bozeman, MT in the Summer of 2001. I fell in love with the breed. Due to my wife's health we could not have a dog. Her passing in 2016 changed that. Three months later Suzy near Caldwell, ID sold "Griff" to me. When Griff was 3-4 weeks old, Suzy fully vetted "me" as a good dog owner; asking me over the phone what I was looking for in a pup. When Griff was 6 weeks old she sent me a Youtube video link and I watched that video at least a dozen times with her having me focus on 2 specific pups. I chose the one, which I did not realize until months later was pick of the liter; according to her. That dog changed our lives; my son and I. I worked at very large archery shop in Orem, Utah and Griff was up front with me everyday for the next 2 years. In that time he met thousands of customers and became super socialized. He loves everyone! I've since remarried and Griff is our dog! My youngest daugher sas so smitten with Griff she brought home her own little girl almost 2 years ago. And for a Griffon, he's gargantous at 100 lbs.

The day Griff came home with us

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At Jake's Archery about 1 yr old

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First bird hunt at 6 months of age; Blues and a Ruff



Wanting attention from my wife while shooting an NRL22 match.



He knows what a gun case is and where i'm going. Sorry buddy, not today; noisy guns today!




One sad looking dog once he realized he could not come with me toa noisy range. He definitely comes when shooting suppressed or 22LR.



Hiked into a Uintah mtns waterfall.



Chillin with the fam!



He only does this with my son.



One of my favorite pics of the two of us.

Great pics of a grand dog!

Chilly Tilly of the Huns! LOL

Happened to find a little group of birds in the right place, at the right time. One down. First thing, once she noticed, she goes up and points. Then got awful excited.... Around and around. Once she picked it up she was strutting around proud and I let her have it awhile. So excited she had to pee! Brought it to me with a here girl... She's 3 months old now. Still a sweetheart and eager to please. Likes going in the rigs. We needed a wing, or two....

You two are making me think Hank (he's going on 7) needs a younger sibling! Love the puppy pics!

Here's Tilly. Learning constantly and eager to please. We think she's a beautiful girl.

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