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Or full length is the question , opinions please , thanks

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I FL size everything. Haven’t found the downside myself.


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Neck size with a Lee Collet, bump shoulders as necessary with a Redding body die.

That assumes it is not for multiple rifles or an auto of some sort, those can change the equation.


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I full length with minimal shoulder bump like this




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I had a bad experience with a neck die. It induced .007 run out in every case. Now I use a LCD and FL when required. As stated above, this is assuming for bolt actions and the brass is unique to the rifle.


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When I can get by with it, I like partial FLS. There’s not one answer for all situations, sad to say. After getting by for my minimal .30/06 efforts for decades with a Lee tool and a RCBS Competition seater, a new rifle forced me to buy a regular set of dies. Not a bad thing actually as I can now leave the RCBS seater set for .308 instead of winding it up and down.


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I neck size until I start to feel some resistant when chambering a round then I full length resize - usually after 2-3 reloads. I find it slows the need for case trimming as well as decreasing the chance of a case head separation.

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I have a Redding 30-06 neck sizing die which I have used for many years in my Model 70 .06. I have never a had failure to chamber using it. About every 4th firing, I partial FLS to set the shoulder back when they do get stiff and anneal. These are all hunting rounds. For my .308 and 6.5 Swede, I partial FLS as Pappy348 posted. I see no sense in FLS and working the brass when not required.


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Originally Posted by Bearcat74
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Same method here.


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I used to neck size some brass, but got too much runout. I went to partial FL sizing and never looked back. Do Not over work your brass. You are taking a lot of life out of your brass. Only FL size enough for your rifle. Good shooting

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Originally Posted by sidewinder72
I used to neck size some brass, but got too much runout. I went to partial FL sizing and never looked back. Do Not over work your brass. You are taking a lot of life out of your brass. Only FL size enough for your rifle. Good shooting

Conventional neck dies are often a source of runout.


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Originally Posted by sidewinder72
I used to neck size some brass, but got too much runout. I went to partial FL sizing and never looked back. Do Not over work your brass. You are taking a lot of life out of your brass. Only FL size enough for your rifle. Good shooting

Conventional neck dies are often a source of runout.

This was one of my first revelations when I got a concentricity gauge.

Got a bunch of Redding neck sizers that I need to sell . . .

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Just set up the new Lee sizer. Instructions say to thread it in until it touches the shellholder, then another 1/4-1/3 turn. I did the first part, then set the ring. Cases fired in “something else” that wouldn’t come close to entering the chamber now go in with just the slightest resistance when turning down the bolt. Not quite as precise as the turn and try method, but close enough for a start. After firing I’ll check if they’ll work with just the sizing from the Lee loader, which works the brass even less, having no expander. Bought an arbor press for that, no more hammering!


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Cortina knows a thing or two. I was shocked when he says nobody neck sizes any more in his circles. His videos are informative. The precision involved in F-Class shooting is mind blowing.

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Originally Posted by Dusty246
Cortina knows a thing or two. I was shocked when he says nobody neck sizes any more in his circles. His videos are informative. The precision involved in F-Class shooting is mind blowing.
Yeah ! I’ve been watching some of his videos .

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Originally Posted by Dusty246
Cortina knows a thing or two. I was shocked when he says nobody neck sizes any more in his circles. His videos are informative. The precision involved in F-Class shooting is mind blowing.


^^ THIS ^^ i stop neck sizing years ago waste of time for accuracy


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My question for Cortina and all the guys who advocate FL sizing would be "whose dies are you using, and do you set for partial FL sizing?"


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Originally Posted by Son_of_the_Gael
Neck size with a Lee Collet, bump shoulders as necessary with a Redding body die.

That assumes it is not for multiple rifles or an auto of some sort, those can change the equation.

my regimen exactly..

The less I work the brass the longer it lasts me... I anneal almost every time...

Test fitting into the chamber, before pulling out the body die...

if it needs it or is tight, then I use the body die to bump the shoulder and the rest of it back down to specs.

some of my loads, only require that every 4th or 5th reload.


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He shot a 1.3" group on video at 1000yds. His videos are fantastic and be sure to check out the one with his mentor "Speedy" Gonzales talking about the wharehouse range and shooting .0 groups. They throw away a 1/4" rifles lol. Very entertaining for us loonies, and River you can email him and ask. He answers questions on his blog.

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Originally Posted by RiverRider
My question for Cortina and all the guys who advocate FL sizing would be "whose dies are you using, and do you set for partial FL sizing?"

That's exactly what he is doing, about a .002" shoulder bump to allow perfect function. Dave7mm might chime in, him and his crew do a bunch of LR shooting with pretty high end guns and I am not positive but I don't believe he's a neck sizer either.


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