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I couldn't do the time away from home. And I don't even have kids.
Much rather make less money and live where I live. Wait til you have kids, it’ll look like one hell of an opportunity! Oh come on now!
I am MAGA.
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Crying Karen,
It is simply fhuqking FASCINATING,that your "life" has never generated a 19yr old girl's opportunity,as you wax eloquent upon your Brokedicktitude...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even YOU can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!............... You keep this behavior up, “you” just mind find another wife!! 😂😂😘 Naw, just shiitin ya!! Haha
Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I couldn't do the time away from home. And I don't even have kids.
Much rather make less money and live where I live. It was tough Sam and my stellar wife made it work, with three sons... I really had no option.
Conduct is the best proof of character.
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Campfire Kahuna
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What do you mean...no option?
I am MAGA.
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I couldn't work remote to leave my daughter and wife.
7 figures maybe.....
Basically not gonna happen
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Campfire 'Bwana
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What do you mean...no option? Reaching a level in the company that could not justify me working non-existent sub-10 billion dollar US projects. I guess I could have retired sooner than 53.
Conduct is the best proof of character.
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What do you mean...no option? money.
Dave
�The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely to be the one who dropped it.� Lou Holtz
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Campfire Kahuna
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What do you mean...no option? money. Yep. He never misses an opportunity to tell us how much he’s got.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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Th OP is about a bridge building outfit.
And it is a bit disingenuous.
These are government scale jobs. The labor rate is set in the contract,
Not by the employers. Bridge building. Hard, hot outside work.
Work your ass out when you can, nothing if rained out.
Traveling, living out of a suitcase in motels.
At your expense, or the bosses? Depends on contractor.
One of the biggest highway contractors has a facility a couple miles from here. I've driven dump truck for them, know a lot of guys who are bridgfe crew. Or other highway contract. Guys always bragging about $/he.
But they don't seem well off?
Might be because those jobs aren't going to pay 2080+ hours/yr.
Their insurance is deducted when they work for when they don't......
Worked all kind of jobs when young, would have jumped right on this.
Actually did similar work at 18.
But it's not as rosy as presented.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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Four year college doesn't prepare you for a job, community college AAS degree and apprenticeship are the way to well paying jobs. You're here in Indiana, and should know that a graduate with a 4 year civil engineering degree from Purdue will start at a min of $65k/yr and only go up from there. And will have a 40+ year career. Smaller numbers of engineers, increases pay.....
“There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.”
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Four year college doesn't prepare you for a job, community college AAS degree and apprenticeship are the way to well paying jobs. You're here in Indiana, and should know that a graduate with a 4 year civil engineering degree from Purdue will start at a min of $65k/yr and only go up from there. And will have a 40+ year career. Smaller numbers of engineers, increases pay..... Will that Purdue engineer be making $150k a year before he/she hits 30? Typically speaking... 35? 40? Again... Typically speaking
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Point being... I know 29 year old welder @ $100k.
HVAC folks with small businesses at $200k+... under 35.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Th OP is about a bridge building outfit.
And it is a bit disingenuous.
These are government scale jobs. The labor rate is set in the contract,
Not by the employers. Bridge building. Hard, hot outside work.
Work your ass out when you can, nothing if rained out.
Traveling, living out of a suitcase in motels.
At your expense, or the bosses? Depends on contractor.
One of the biggest highway contractors has a facility a couple miles from here. I've driven dump truck for them, know a lot of guys who are bridgfe crew. Or other highway contract. Guys always bragging about $/he.
But they don't seem well off?
Might be because those jobs aren't going to pay 2080+ hours/yr.
Their insurance is deducted when they work for when they don't......
Worked all kind of jobs when young, would have jumped right on this.
Actually did similar work at 18.
But it's not as rosy as presented. Yes and no... Factor in the Per diem (tax write off for employer) and the particular skill set involved... Construction can pay very very well... ------------------------- Roofers and grunts... hell no. Skill... hell yes.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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This Davis Bacon for Harris Texas (just a random grab)... DB Harris County TexasCalifornia and NY is probably 2x or 3x that... If per diem is also added... goes up from there.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Four year college doesn't prepare you for a job, community college AAS degree and apprenticeship are the way to well paying jobs. Significant experience tells me that the community/technical college route has been, and will be, excellent for some students - leading to "well paying jobs". Then again, significant experience tells me that the first sentence in that post is badly wrong - and hints at gross ignorance of the actualities. Might that be a clue that study at a "four year college" could help overcome some gross ignorance?
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If a kid wants to go to a 4 year college, I would encourage them to get a Business degree, then follow that up with a technical/skilled trade certification. That will set them up really well. ANYONE can benefit from a business degree - electrician, carpenter, plumber, neurosurgeon, engineer.....
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WRONG, I have both a four year college degree and a community college associate degree, I know where of I speak. I have earned significantly more with the knowledge gained with the associate degree than with the BA. I have Journeyman credentials in two professions and the last several years of my career worked as a Manufacturing Engineer.
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I know from personal experience that the drop out rate on some "associates" programs is north of 90%.
SOME kids will do well in community college, without a doubt. Many of those will go on to four year degrees. On the other side, MANY go to community college, pushed by family, communities, "education programs" (G-d help us all), and what not, and very (very, VERY) few of those make it through the first serious round of tests.
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If a kid wants to go to a 4 year college, I would encourage them to get a Business degree, then follow that up with a technical/skilled trade certification. That will set them up really well. ANYONE can benefit from a business degree - electrician, carpenter, plumber, neurosurgeon, engineer..... 1982 my dad told me to major in whatever, but at least get a Business minor. It was great advice that I didn’t take, but I said the same thing to my daughter in 2002. At her college graduation party I was talking to my dad when she interrupted us to say thank you for the wise advice about the business minor. My dad looked at me and said you little bastard, I told you the same thing and you didn’t do it. Yep, I replied, but I knew it was good advice so I said the same thing to Krista. I have an English degree and an MBA. A Business minor sure would have helped.
Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
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WRONG, I have both a four year college degree and a community college associate degree, I know where of I speak. I have earned significantly more with the knowledge gained with the associate degree than with the BA. I have Journeyman credentials in two professions and the last several years of my career worked as a Manufacturing Engineer. Well, goody for you - but the post was not WRONG at all. You should realize that a sample of one - your case - can be very informative and convincing - to one. Are you thinking that you can extrapolate, from your single case, a sweeping statement about all college students and programs? Any decent four-year degree should have involved learning deep and broad enough to enable that person to understand that the larger world often is quite different from what one sees staring at his navel. Further, some may see educational experiences as leading to things greater than a dollar sign.
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