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Originally Posted by mirage243
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I'm neither delusional nor in a state of denial. I'm just not afraid of snakes. I've grown up walking and fishing where cottonmouths were thick. Never had a problem. I've squatted over and nearly stepped on cottonmouths I didn't see till I was 6 inches from them. Never a strike. The only time I've seen them strike is when they're getting fugged with. And I've seen the consequences of removing cottonmouths where they were close to people. A local business park here eradicated them from a ditch system cuz people were ascared of them. Not a single bite to anyone. Once they were gone the muskrat population exploded. You couldn't walk in the gardens near the water without falling thru up to your knee in a God damn muskrat tunnel. In the 55 years I've lived near cottonmouths, only two people here have been bitten. A drunk retard that picked one up, and the curator of reptiles at a nature park that was inserting chips in them so he could determine where they were hibernating, as part of his environmental thesis.

Same with Timber/Canebrake Rattlesnakes. I regularly walk thru pocosin forests and grassy areas in low shoes and socks knowing rattlesnakes are around. I gave up snake boots years ago. If you don't screw with them, they aren't a problem. The one I moved yesterday didn't strike or act aggressively in any way.

I've been bitten hundreds of times by nonvenous snakes. 100% of the time because I picked then up. I had a nearly blind (due to shedding) Black Rat snake bite me on the face and inside my lip when I posed it for a picture. Had to use a credit card once to get a King Snake off my finger. I still pick them up when I come across them. Snakes just aren't scary to me.


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My Sisters dog was struck by a Rattlesnake 4 days ago. Two visits to 2 different vets and 1,050 in bills, she had me put it down as it had lost control of rear end. I kill all I see.

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Originally Posted by poboy
East Texas granny said she could smell cotton-mouths in an
area and fish somewhere else.

That's the worst thing about a snake. They [bleep] on you as a defense. Damned effective. That stink is frigging hard to get off.

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Originally Posted by poboy
East Texas granny said she could smell cotton-mouths in an
area and fish somewhere else.

I believe her, Mike. Iā€™ve smelt big Rattlesnakes in the barn before. Itā€™s a nasty ass smell you never forget.


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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
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East Texas granny said she could smell cotton-mouths in an
area and fish somewhere else.

I believe her, Mike. Iā€™ve smelt big Rattlesnakes in the barn before. Itā€™s a nasty ass smell you never forget.

That is a fact.


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Originally Posted by 10Glocks
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I'm neither delusional nor in a state of denial. I'm just not afraid of snakes. I've grown up walking and fishing where cottonmouths were thick. Never had a problem. I've squatted over and nearly stepped on cottonmouths I didn't see till I was 6 inches from them. Never a strike. The only time I've seen them strike is when they're getting fugged with. And I've seen the consequences of removing cottonmouths where they were close to people. A local business park here eradicated them from a ditch system cuz people were ascared of them. Not a single bite to anyone. Once they were gone the muskrat population exploded. You couldn't walk in the gardens near the water without falling thru up to your knee in a God damn muskrat tunnel. In the 55 years I've lived near cottonmouths, only two people here have been bitten. A drunk retard that picked one up, and the curator of reptiles at a nature park that was inserting chips in them so he could determine where they were hibernating, as part of his environmental thesis.

Same with Timber/Canebrake Rattlesnakes. I regularly walk thru pocosin forests and grassy areas in low shoes and socks knowing rattlesnakes are around. I gave up snake boots years ago. If you don't screw with them, they aren't a problem. The one I moved yesterday didn't strike or act aggressively in any way.

I've been bitten hundreds of times by nonvenous snakes. 100% of the time because I picked then up. I had a nearly blind (due to shedding) Black Rat snake bite me on the face and inside my lip when I posed it for a picture. Had to use a credit card once to get a King Snake off my finger. I still pick them up when I come across them. Snakes just aren't scary to me.


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Originally Posted by WildWest
My Sisters dog was struck by a Rattlesnake 4 days ago. Two visits to 2 different vets and 1,050 in bills, she had me put it down as it had lost control of rear end. I kill all I see.
A neighbor guy had his big dog get bit by a rattler a couple of years ago. The snake got the dog twice. The snake would of gotten the neighbor guy but the dog took the bites. The neighbor guy is about 75% deaf and couldn't hear it rattle while he was opening a cattle gate. The dog went in after it and paid deerly for saving his owners life. The dog lived a couple of years after the bites but was never the same and died at a relatively young age.

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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by 10Glocks
Originally Posted by mirage243
Originally Posted by 10Glocks
I'm neither delusional nor in a state of denial. I'm just not afraid of snakes. I've grown up walking and fishing where cottonmouths were thick. Never had a problem. I've squatted over and nearly stepped on cottonmouths I didn't see till I was 6 inches from them. Never a strike. The only time I've seen them strike is when they're getting fugged with. And I've seen the consequences of removing cottonmouths where they were close to people. A local business park here eradicated them from a ditch system cuz people were ascared of them. Not a single bite to anyone. Once they were gone the muskrat population exploded. You couldn't walk in the gardens near the water without falling thru up to your knee in a God damn muskrat tunnel. In the 55 years I've lived near cottonmouths, only two people here have been bitten. A drunk retard that picked one up, and the curator of reptiles at a nature park that was inserting chips in them so he could determine where they were hibernating, as part of his environmental thesis.

Same with Timber/Canebrake Rattlesnakes. I regularly walk thru pocosin forests and grassy areas in low shoes and socks knowing rattlesnakes are around. I gave up snake boots years ago. If you don't screw with them, they aren't a problem. The one I moved yesterday didn't strike or act aggressively in any way.

I've been bitten hundreds of times by nonvenous snakes. 100% of the time because I picked then up. I had a nearly blind (due to shedding) Black Rat snake bite me on the face and inside my lip when I posed it for a picture. Had to use a credit card once to get a King Snake off my finger. I still pick them up when I come across them. Snakes just aren't scary to me.


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No, it's true. My neighbors call me with snake problems. My neighbors think all snakes are coppermouthed rattlemocassins. I pick them and show them its just their garden hose

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Originally Posted by 10Glocks
Pit vipers are born live, non-venomous species by egg.

Plenty of non venomous snakes give live birth too.

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And several non venomous snakes actually produce venom.

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Originally Posted by 10Glocks
And several non venomous snakes actually produce venom.

Care to clarify that?

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True. They just don't carry the delivery hardware (fangs). Have to almost chew one to death.

A party just recently lost a small dog to a rattler in a campground we frequent.

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True. They just don't carry the delivery hardware (fangs). Have to almost chew one to death.

A party just recently lost a small dog to a rattler in a campground we frequent.

And which species are you referring to that produce venom but dont have fangs? Closest thing to that im aware of is some rear fanged snakes that arent really able to bite a person, but still have fangs and deliver venom to their prey.

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Well, it's pretty clear on its face. But, yes, there are several snakes regarded as non venomous that actually produce venom. Hognose snakes, garter snakes, green snakes and some water snakes. It's hard to get a garter snake to bite. Nearly impossible to get a green snake to bite. Hognoses will bite. They produces a lot of bleeding and itching. They are toxic to their prey. Water snakes readily bite. I've bled like a stuck pig from water snake bites. Their venom will makes a frog or fish go limp very quickly. These snakes are usually considered non venomous, but in reality, they produce venom that can result in mild symptoms in humans, but are very effective on natural prey animals.

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Weird. Just looked up the garter snake thing and am getting very little info on that, just a few hits saying they produce a mild venom harmless to humans. Wonder if its in their saliva or something like gila monsters

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Originally Posted by stxhunter
The boogie man, lol...

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That reminds me of the old Nicola Boot poster from many years ago!


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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
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Only relocating I do with cottonmouths is to their final resting place.

As does any sane person, same for rattlers & copperheads too.

Vipers & humans do not co-habitat well together; anybody that thinks otherwise is delusional & in a state of serious denial.

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Kill every stinking one of them I encounter.

I'm in this camp too. The only good rattler is a dead rattler (or copperhead, cottonmouth etc.).

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Originally Posted by gkt5450
That reminds me of the old Nicola Boot poster from many years ago!

nocona.....

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Originally Posted by huntsman22
Originally Posted by gkt5450
That reminds me of the old Nicola Boot poster from many years ago!

nocona.....

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Yep. That was my first thought as well. I just figured he meant Nocona, and that ā€œNicolaā€ mustā€™ve been a typo.

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