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Just ran across an old 2002 catalog from Dangerous Dave and the OWS. He was a source for rare and oddball stuff. I see it is still around. Anybody every order from OWS?


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Many years ago.


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Never ordered anything from them, but never heard anything bad about them either.

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Been a while, but yes.........


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Like EdM and Muffin, ordered from OWS several times with good results, but quite a while ago.


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Don't hold me to this, Dave had medical problems (cancer), moved to Reno from here, to be closer to good doctors, his son half heartedly ran the business, and I think it slowly faded away. Some outfit, maybe Navy Arms, bought the name and has a web page, but I haven't ordered anything since Dave operated it. There are still 2 old deactivated 16 inch naval shells along the highway where his home/warehouse was, the grandsons HAVE to stop every damn time we drive by there.


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What a blast from the past! In the 1980's, Bob Jensen wrote an article about how primers were the key to accuracy at 600 yards. In his article, he mentioned RWS primers as giving the smallest SD in his testing. Problem was they were unobtanium...except from Old Western Scrounger! Apparently the only one importing them at the time.

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Hatari just wanted to know about the OWS as a source. But let me tell youse guys a little anecdote about Dave Cumberland, the man. In one of the frequent economic crashes the lumber market causes around here I was taking any and all work I could find. Gravy was thin and watery around the Flint Estate. Dave calls, "you the guy with the shop truck that works on equipment ?"...."Yup". An appointment is made to get his little forklift going, work is done within an hour, normally I wouldn't charge but times are hard, so he offers cash or check. I gratefully accept the check and he says that doesn't seem like enough ( seems like it was 75 bucks), why don't you pick something out here in the warehouse. So I go browsing, unbelievable, piles of gun stuff, ammo, mil surplus, reloading gear from the old Hollywood gun shop...well, I made the mistake of picking up a Springfield 1898 Krag leaning in the corner. He looked at it, I forgot I had that...it's yours, take it with you. Even in those days a 400 buck rifle, easy. I protested weakly and took it. Got feeling guilty that winter and brought him a few loads of firewood, we remained friends until he moved away. A small man with a big heart.


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Hatari just wanted to know about the OWS as a source. But let me tell youse guys a little anecdote about Dave Cumberland, the man. In one of the frequent economic crashes the lumber market causes around here I was taking any and all work I could find. Gravy was thin and watery around the Flint Estate. Dave calls, "you the guy with the shop truck that works on equipment ?"...."Yup". An appointment is made to get his little forklift going, work is done within an hour, normally I wouldn't charge but times are hard, so he offers cash or check. I gratefully accept the check and he says that doesn't seem like enough ( seems like it was 75 bucks), why don't you pick something out here in the warehouse. So I go browsing, unbelievable, piles of gun stuff, ammo, mil surplus, reloading gear from the old Hollywood gun shop...well, I made the mistake of picking up a Springfield 1898 Krag leaning in the corner. He looked at it, I forgot I had that...it's yours, take it with you. Even in those days a 400 buck rifle, easy. I protested weakly and took it. Got feeling guilty that winter and brought him a few loads of firewood, we remained friends until he moved away. A small man with a big heart.

Great story! Liked his catalog.


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Great story!

I talked to him a number of times years ago at SCI conventions. He'd stand around wearing his old Pickle Helmet or whatever it was talking about the oddball military stuff he sourced out some forgotten warehouse somewhere. Fun guy.


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Originally Posted by ChrisF
What a blast from the past! In the 1980's, Bob Jensen wrote an article about how primers were the key to accuracy at 600 yards. In his article, he mentioned RWS primers as giving the smallest SD in his testing. Problem was they were unobtanium...except from Old Western Scrounger! Apparently the only one importing them at the time.


I think he was the source of RWS H-Mantle bullets that I can't get anymore


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Got my first 6.5x54M-S brass (RWS) from him.
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I use too. I didn't know they were still around.

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When I had my shop I used him quite a bit. I also pointed countless customers his way. He always had some unusual and interesting stuff.


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Who remembers Belknap Junquery which later became Superior Collectable Investments ? Kind of along the same lines as OWS.

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My father and I met him at a gun show in Portland, OR back in the mid 80’s. Dad had bought a rifle of some rare caliber, and I was teasing him about finding ammo for it. Along came OWS at the same gun show, and supplied dad with what he needed. The Mannlicher-Schoenauer collectors held their annual meeting in Portland that year, and it was held at same time as this gun show, otherwise we would have never made it to Portland for a gun show.

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5MM REM MAG and 25 Stevens ammo.

He had new Remington 37 grain HPPL that I hadn't seen for awhile and he had his own brand of 67 grain 25 Stevens.

'Glad that I bought 500 rounds ot the 25 Stevens, 'cause I haven't seen any shooting ammo anywhere since 200?

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Haven't heard that name in a long time. back in the 60's and early 70's he owned the Old West Gun Room in El Cerrito Calif. His daughter went to the same high school i did. Don't even know if the old shop is still down there. 1970 he did or his smith did some work on a 98 Mauser I had.
I do still have a case of Winchester 22WRF in the locker from him.

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Was working in the early 70's at the Union oil refinery in Rodeo, and spent many hours in that shop in El Cerrito . Cool place !

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I used to order stuff from him, talked on the phone a time or two. Never knew what would be in his catalog.


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