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I once bought some 6.5x54MS ammo from them soon after I got a Model 1903 Mannlicher Schoenauer and they were the only source I could find. I did get dies and brass and have been handloading it ever since. That was my only experience with them.


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I’ve bought a few low dollar items from OWS, always a good experience. I like old school gun shops and gun parts catalogs/websites. OWS or Jack First is another good one.

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Being a lover of odd-ball sh*t, I bought a fair amount of stuff from him back in the '90s. Use to get DKT bullets from him. Remember those? They were one of the only "readily available", and I use that term loosely, source of .405 Win bullets back then.

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In 1992 I brought a .577 Snider carbine home from England, And OWS was the only place I knew of to get the components to shoot it. I bought some Bertram basic .577 cases. I also bought some from Dixie Gun Works, but they weren't drawn brass like the Bertram.

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I've got the 1993 OWS catalog. Only one I have. Great stuff in this book.


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Wow…haven’t heard or seen one of those catalogs in a long time!!! Makes me remember the days when I had a Gun List subscription and impatiently waited for each issue, then engrossed myself in the ads like a little kid with a new comic book! A blast from the past for sure, and I didn’t know OWS was still around!

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Once bought some 43 Egyptian from him.


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We used to get 5mm Rem Mag and .22 WRF ammo from him occasionally


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Never bought there but someone at work mentioned US Cavalry the other day - another old catalog blast from the past.


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Bought some 40-82 ammunition from them about 25 - 30 yrs ago.
Very quick service then, but would imagine the people are not
the same ones now.

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Originally Posted by flintlocke
Don't hold me to this, Dave had medical problems (cancer), moved to Reno from here, to be closer to good doctors, his son half heartedly ran the business, and I think it slowly faded away. Some outfit, maybe Navy Arms, bought the name and has a web page, but I haven't ordered anything since Dave operated it. There are still 2 old deactivated 16 inch naval shells along the highway where his home/warehouse was, the grandsons HAVE to stop every damn time we drive by there.

He ran it in Moundhouse near Carson City for a while after moving from Montague CA. It was close to the whore houses, and I got near there often. I hated to see it make the final move. He was my first source for .318 bullets for my "J" bores and for .364 193gr bullets for my 9,3X72R, and he often had ammo for both back when he was in Montague.


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Way back in the late 90's, I had a 9.3x62 built. OWS was the only place I could find ammo! I scraped together some more Norma brass ( $$$) and the barrel was a Kreiger, special ordered. Now its much easier to get into the old thumper.

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I use to stop at his shop in Montague, when I was down in Siskiyou County on business back in the late 90s and early 2000s...
just south of us here in S. Oregon.

Definitely a nice guy, and very interesting shop....

Was down there the last time, evidently after he moved... shop was closed...

didn't know if he passed or just shut down the business...

haven't thought about it much since, until reading the thread here...


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I used to go over to the Old West Gun Room pretty often when I was in grad school. Had to walk a couple of miles because I couldn't afford both my gun addiction and wheels. Bought a lot of little parts to finish "parts guns" I'd acquired in garage sales (remember that?) and from "Shotgun News," the "newsprint internet" (remember that?).

Still have a .44-40 Colt Bisley that I'd bought in Mexico in the late 1950s in excellent shape except that some 'esmit had tried to covert it into a "Tejano" with incorrect SAA parts. Dave just happened to have a new condition backstrap and trigger guard that was about 200 numbers away from the ones on the frame. Quick trade plus a little boot, and I found near-new Bisley grips a couple of months later. Still shoot the old thing with Black Hills "Cowboy" lead ammo. Still deadly, made in 1909 just in time for the Revolution!

"Beesleys" were more popular in Mexico than in the US it seemed to me. Where I was they were called "abrebottelas" (bottle openers") because the lower hammer was so handy to pop beer bottle caps. I never saw one with a bent or broken hammer spur, tho.

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After reading thru this, just did a deep dive into one of the unpacked boxes still in the basement & found a 1991 catalog. Some of the highlights...

A complete refurbished Starlight scope for $2750

Lee Loaders for $7.50

A 25mm Hotchkiss AT gun complete with 24 rds of AP ammo for $5600

20mm Solothurn primed brass for $6 each

Big Bang Cannons

Too bad back then I purged older catalogs when the new one arrived.


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Originally Posted by Mesa
I used to go over to the Old West Gun Room pretty often when I was in grad school. Had to walk a couple of miles because I couldn't afford both my gun addiction and wheels. Bought a lot of little parts to finish "parts guns" I'd acquired in garage sales (remember that?) and from "Shotgun News," the "newsprint internet" (remember that?).

Still have a .44-40 Colt Bisley that I'd bought in Mexico in the late 1950s in excellent shape except that some 'esmit had tried to covert it into a "Tejano" with incorrect SAA parts. Dave just happened to have a new condition backstrap and trigger guard that was about 200 numbers away from the ones on the frame. Quick trade plus a little boot, and I found near-new Bisley grips a couple of months later. Still shoot the old thing with Black Hills "Cowboy" lead ammo. Still deadly, made in 1909 just in time for the Revolution!

"Beesleys" were more popular in Mexico than in the US it seemed to me. Where I was they were called "abrebottelas" (bottle openers") because the lower hammer was so handy to pop beer bottle caps. I never saw one with a bent or broken hammer spur, tho.

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used to buy 8x56 MS ammo from him. Evidently he made the cases from something else. Stuff shot great. When I could no longer find that ammo, I had the rifle rechambered to 8x57 Mauser. Still shooting it.


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Always enjoyed stopping at his Shot Show table in early 2000's.


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They still have a site. I didn’t try to order anything, though.


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