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You're over thinking it. Costner just didn't know how the SAA was designed to eject spent cases, or whoever directed his actions didn't. Costner's character wasn't depicted as a screw up. He was depicted as a man who knew his way around his guns, and was cool under fire. That's incongruous with the scene under discussion.
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So, a movie star is not familiar with firearms
That's truly shocking.
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You need to watch again. While he does give the empties a shake a time or two, he also uses the ejector at least once. It appears to me that he is letting them fall out on their own if they will and giving them a slight shake if they need it.
You also have to remember that a guy could go through a ten step loading process with a particular firearm and then the director could edit it all out more or less seamlessly and the final product looks like he didn’t know what he was doing and skipping steps..
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You need to watch again. While he does give the empties a shake a time or two, he also uses the ejector at least once. It appears to me that he is letting them fall out on their own if they will and giving them a slight shake if they need it. We must be watching two different scenes. Again, you're over thinking it. It's just a case of the actor not knowing that an ejector is on the gun, and that that's how it's designed to eject. It's a quick and trouble free mechanism. Shaking them out isn't.
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It’s Hollywood. Just enjoy the movie. I doubt Tom Cruise can fly a fighter jet either. Actually, he can. And has.
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So the Navy allows civilians to fly their fighters?
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Tom Cruise owns a P-51 and a T-45 I think.
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You guys expect way to much out of Hollywood. I agree with you, but it seems in todays time they’d try to think a little. In Old Henry ol Billy used a Winchester 94 with a crossbolt safety.
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You guys expect way to much out of Hollywood. I agree with you, but it seems in todays time they’d try to think a little. In Old Henry ol Billy used a Winchester 94 with a crossbolt safety. I know. Like it would have been hard to find an old one with a steel semi crescent butt plate.
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Kevin Costner knows all there is to know about Colt Single Action revolvers. After all, he played a deadly gunslinger in Silverado. That made him an expert. L.W.
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Kevin Costner knows all there is to know about Colt Single Action revolvers. After all, he played a deadly gunslinger in Silverado. That made him an expert. L.W. Just love that movie! The corner saloon scene! A1 Wait. Uncle Jake fell off his horse? (lights came on)
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Tom Cruise owns a P-51 and a T-45 I think. I stand corrected. Where the hell do you buy one of those?
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Tom Cruise owns a P-51 and a T-45 I think. I stand corrected. Where the hell do you buy one of those? No, you were right. Tom Cruise is a civilian who can afford P-51 and T-45. Doesn't, however, negate the fact that a civilian piloted a military jet. John Travolta owns a 737. You think air force would let him (and Christian Slater) pilot an F-35? Sans nukes, of course.
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You guys expect way to much out of Hollywood. I agree with you, but it seems in todays time they’d try to think a little. In Old Henry ol Billy used a Winchester 94 with a crossbolt safety. I saw that. My wife says I always ruin movies bitching about stuff like that. I asked her if she’d think it odd if he were driving a Mercedes in a cowboy movie. Same difference to me.
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You guys expect way to much out of Hollywood. I agree with you, but it seems in todays time they’d try to think a little. In Old Henry ol Billy used a Winchester 94 with a crossbolt safety. I saw that. My wife says I always ruin movies bitching about stuff like that. I asked her if she’d think it odd if he were driving a Mercedes in a cowboy movie. Same difference to me. Yep.
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Tom Cruise owns a P-51 and a T-45 I think. I stand corrected. Where the hell do you buy one of those? No, you were right. Tom Cruise is a civilian who can afford P-51 and T-45. Doesn't, however, negate the fact that a civilian piloted a military jet. https://www.gq.com/story/top-gun-maverick-aerial-stuntsAccording to the aviation website Aerocorner, in today's money, a Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet — the fighter jet du jour used by the U.S. Navy since 1995 — costs the American government $67.4 million. That isn't a bulk deal, folks: it's per plane. It should come as no surprise to anyone with a sliver of critical thought, then, that Tom Cruise, Miles Teller and Co. didn't actually pilot the vehicles we see in Top Gun: Maverick
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I too am too "hyper-critical" when I watch movies. I find that if I intentionally watch them with the mindset of the target audience (those who don't know and have no expertise in the subject matter) that I enjoy them more.
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Get real people. Cruise didn't come anywhere NEAR the controls of a military air frame.
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Tuco's gun shop scene is about the stupidest fugking thing ever put in cinema.
I still like the movie.
Losers. How ph ucking dare you!
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Yeah like with all the BS going on in this world lets worry about movie crap. Good lord.
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