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I want to move up from my R7 to something a little more powerful. I understand the spec differences on all three rifles but before I make a selection, I was wondering if there is any defined inherent accuracy differences between the 50 and 95 models in .177? I’ll want this rifle for longer range target work and as my pest / small game go to gun. Thanks
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Have never shot a 50 but I have owned a HW95 for several years. The HW95 is very well made and surprisingly accurate, the only downside is that it is very loud
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I believe the R9-HW95 are the same rifle with a little different stock. I have owned a couple R9's - fantastic rifles.
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If pests are on the ticket, I'd suggest a .22 cal. I have an HW50 in .22 and it's a smooth shooter, just can't top the Record trigger on these airguns. For longer range and pests I'd say the extra 150fps offered by the HW95 (same rifle as a Beeman R9) would be welcome.
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For small game, the .22 has more thump. I've shot houseflies at 30 yds. with my 95.
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For small game, the .22 has more thump. I've shot houseflies at 30 yds. with my 95. Me too, if they aren't flying too fast 22 has more thump for sure on "larger" small game, but .177 is cheaper to shoot and I've killed squirrels and even ground hogs with mine. If I could only have one airgun, it would be a 177, but fortunately I have examples of both.
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HW95 / Beeman R9. They are powerful, accurate! and pleasant to shoot.
If I were limited to one airgun it would probably be an HW95/R9.
From what I have repeatedly read, the HW50 is nearly as hard to cock as a 95 but doesn't provide commensurate velocity.
There is also a longer barreled version of the 95 (maybe the 85?) that should help make a modest effort rifle like the 95 even easier to cock.
And if you've never heard of them, Krale.shop is the best place to buy Weihrauch rifles. And since you're already paying for shipping, you should take advantage of their pellet.prices too.
As for caliber, most rifles tend to favor light or heavy calibers but the HW95 handles everything very well. You really can't go wrong. I have a .177 and a .20, and I will be picking up a .22 somewhere down the line.
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Was looking at a hw95 but ended up with a hw97k Can highly recommend it, as tmitch said the reckord trigger is awesome. 22 cal all the way Got some photos but my tiny brain couldn’t work out how to post them
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I have a HW95 Luxus 22. Well built and accurate. Hits hard and easy to shoot. Mine have a Rekord trigger also.
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I have the HW95L .22, HW50 .22 and and R7. I put Hawke Airmax scopes on all of them and they are all accurate. As Kragman there isn’t a lot of difference in the pressure it takes to cock the 95 and 50.
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Hard to go wrong with an R9 HW 95 in .22 for pest and plinking. On springers there is not much more rope than that.
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I’d say the HW50 in .20 caliber would be fun. I have a bigger .177 with a large high power scope on it that I use as a bench rest rifle at 60-70 yards. A Diana 34 clone, Ruger Blackhawk Elite. Likely similar in size and power to an HW95. It’s long and heavy for carrying around. But I need the big scope on there to take full advantage of it’s range and precision.
For a carry pellet rifle I prefer my Sheridan .20 cal Blue Streak or a short version of the Crosman Nitro Piston in .22 caliber. Likely similar to the .20 cal HW50 in size, power, and trajectory. These have a lot more thump than the skinny .177 that just pencils through stuff. And they’re a lot more powerful than my El Gamo made Daisy 131 that’s probably close to the R7.
But the .177 Blackhawk is a tac driver at long range. So if that’s your thing, then the HW95.
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I've shot my share of critters with 177, 20 and some with 22. No doubt 177 with non-expanding pellets has less diameter and shock effect than larger and heavier 20 and 22. That said, with shot placement and good pellet choice, the 177 is very effective. I had the best overall results with dome pellets. In lighter powered airguns like a BSA Meteor (675 mv) and in a modified Daisy 790 (S&W 78/79G), the RWS Superpoint was a solid penetrator and killer.
The R9 in 20 with 14.3 Premiers was a winner with any solid hit. That said, I dropped tree squirrels at 70 yds with a FWB 124 with lung shots. The R9 did the same......
At close range a wadcutter is highly effective in shock effect but penetration suffers and downrange retained fps. I recall the original Benjamin pells were one of my fave in my BSA above that had a tad larger bore then German guns, being British....on the larger size for bore diameter.
Many factors, but in the end, any decent pellet thru vitals will take out common small game. Practice, learn your gear.
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Yeah, definitely pointed pellets in low power .177 on game will help get to where they live.
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