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Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Dangit, that's pretty rough!


Yes it is.

I'm still left curious as to why the first group put four in a decent cluster, then the second group was all over the place. I stopped between groups, gut up off the ground, and reloaded the magazine for the second group. I wasn't in a comfortable position really, prone on the ground, shooting uphill, with a [bleep] midway rear bag that was kind of loose.

Then the question arises, was my scope new and adjustments a little sticky? Did my scope adjustments not take effect until a shot or two jarred the adjustments?

I'll probably load a few more rounds, put a rifle buttstock lower on this upper, bring out the portable shooting bench, and give it one more chance.

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Maybe heat, maybe the load is a bit hot. SAAMI says 50 KPSI MAP and it will do that with 150 grain bullets at the velocity you pursue...if my Hodgdon Load Data means anything.

Still, all the little people that shot at me with that round would be proud of the groups you shot. Except for the dead ones, they don't care anymore.


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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Maybe heat, maybe the load is a bit hot. SAAMI says 50 KPSI MAP and it will do that with 150 grain bullets at the velocity you pursue...if my Hodgdon Load Data means anything.

Still, all the little people that shot at me with that round would be proud of the groups you shot. Except for the dead ones, they don't care anymore.

I've had decent results loading the Hornady 155gr ELD-M bullet. Figured I'd try these 180gr since I have about 2000 of them on the bench.

Sometimes things work out, sometimes they don't.

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I guess I never considered a 7.62x39 in an AR.

Suppose I have a RR lower with a JSE 5.56 upper. Also a selection of mags for the 5.56.

What all would i need to do to put and operate a 7.62x39 upper on it? Or do I need a lower designed just for it?


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Originally Posted by johnw
I guess I never considered a 7.62x39 in an AR.

Suppose I have a RR lower with a JSE 5.56 upper. Also a selection of mags for the 5.56.

What all would i need to do to put and operate a 7.62x39 upper on it? Or do I need a lower designed just for it?

All you need is an upper in 7.62x39, and magazines for the 7.62x39.

If you get an upper from Palmetto State Armory, it will come with an enhanced firing pin. It's a little longer to work with the deep seated and hard primers on steel case ammo.

For magazines you want the DuraMags.

The steel case ammo works best with a heavy milspec trigger. The heavy hammer and spring get the round on it's way.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
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I guess I never considered a 7.62x39 in an AR.

Suppose I have a RR lower with a JSE 5.56 upper. Also a selection of mags for the 5.56.

What all would i need to do to put and operate a 7.62x39 upper on it? Or do I need a lower designed just for it?

All you need is an upper in 7.62x39, and magazines for the 7.62x39.

If you get an upper from Palmetto State Armory, it will come with an enhanced firing pin. It's a little longer to work with the deep seated and hard primers on steel case ammo.

For magazines you want the DuraMags.

The steel case ammo works best with a heavy milspec trigger. The heavy hammer and spring get the round on it's way.

Tried for months to get an upper from PSA, consistently out of stock. Wound up grabbing a 300BO upper for cheap since I had 1000rds of ammo. Have many 1000’s of rounds of x39 that’s relegated to AK duty now.



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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Originally Posted by johnw
I guess I never considered a 7.62x39 in an AR.

Suppose I have a RR lower with a JSE 5.56 upper. Also a selection of mags for the 5.56.

What all would i need to do to put and operate a 7.62x39 upper on it? Or do I need a lower designed just for it?

All you need is an upper in 7.62x39, and magazines for the 7.62x39.

If you get an upper from Palmetto State Armory, it will come with an enhanced firing pin. It's a little longer to work with the deep seated and hard primers on steel case ammo.

For magazines you want the DuraMags.

The steel case ammo works best with a heavy milspec trigger. The heavy hammer and spring get the round on it's way.

Tried for months to get an upper from PSA, consistently out of stock. Wound up grabbing a 300BO upper for cheap since I had 1000rds of ammo. Have many 1000’s of rounds of x39 that’s relegated to AK duty now.


My 20" mid-gas 7.62x39 upper is from AR15Parts.com. I haven't had any issues with it either. They have a few in stock,

https://ar15parts.com/upper-assemblies/7-62x39-uppers-ar15/


I picked up my 16" upper from PSA a couple years ago. At that time they were on sale for $239, with BCG and CH.

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$239 is a steal. I put mine together with a Green Mtn barrel, AGB, RCA BCG (either with or added an x39 firing pin), heavy hammer spring in the lower, and ended up using a burly float tube that used to be on a Grendel uppper. Parts were sparse at the time.

Been using it, (outside of manufacturer's recommendation) with a 9mm suppressor.😁


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I see Bear Creek Arsenal has some budget-friendly uppers. I don't have any experience with BCA.

https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/guns-parts/ar-15/ar-15-complete-upper-assembly/7-62x39.html

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Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
$239 is a steal. I put mine together with a Green Mtn barrel, AGB, RCA BCG (either with or added an x39 firing pin), heavy hammer spring in the lower, and ended up using a burly float tube that used to be on a Grendel uppper. Parts were sparse at the time.

Been using it, (outside of manufacturer's recommendation) with a 9mm suppressor.😁


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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Originally Posted by johnw
I guess I never considered a 7.62x39 in an AR.

Suppose I have a RR lower with a JSE 5.56 upper. Also a selection of mags for the 5.56.

What all would i need to do to put and operate a 7.62x39 upper on it? Or do I need a lower designed just for it?

All you need is an upper in 7.62x39, and magazines for the 7.62x39.

If you get an upper from Palmetto State Armory, it will come with an enhanced firing pin. It's a little longer to work with the deep seated and hard primers on steel case ammo.

For magazines you want the DuraMags.

The steel case ammo works best with a heavy milspec trigger. The heavy hammer and spring get the round on it's way.

Something to think about, I guess. I'm happier with my first owned AR (5.56) than I thought I'd be. It's a really useful little carbine.

Not sure if I'm into expanding the hobbies just now, but I'm sure that something similar to what I've got, in 7.62, would be cool to own and use.


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Originally Posted by johnw
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Originally Posted by johnw
I guess I never considered a 7.62x39 in an AR.

Suppose I have a RR lower with a JSE 5.56 upper. Also a selection of mags for the 5.56.

What all would i need to do to put and operate a 7.62x39 upper on it? Or do I need a lower designed just for it?

All you need is an upper in 7.62x39, and magazines for the 7.62x39.

If you get an upper from Palmetto State Armory, it will come with an enhanced firing pin. It's a little longer to work with the deep seated and hard primers on steel case ammo.

For magazines you want the DuraMags.

The steel case ammo works best with a heavy milspec trigger. The heavy hammer and spring get the round on it's way.

Something to think about, I guess. I'm happier with my first owned AR (5.56) than I thought I'd be. It's a really useful little carbine.

Not sure if I'm into expanding the hobbies just now, but I'm sure that something similar to what I've got, in 7.62, would be cool to own and use.

I got into the AR 7.62x39 a couple years or so back. 5.56 ammo was getting pricey/low supply. My reasons were 7.62x39 affordability/availability. Also, the uppers were very reasonable.

I wanted an AK-47, but didn't want to spend so much at the time. Glad I waited, the PSAK GF5 is a nice rifle.

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The KS-47 from PSA has impressed me a great deal... ever with the junker Cabelas 2-7 optic.

9 our of 10 on 8" steel rounds at 400 yards...

500 was bad.

Tula and Wolf 123 IIRC.

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Originally Posted by CashisKing
The KS-47 from PSA has impressed me a great deal... ever with the junker Cabelas 2-7 optic.

9 our of 10 on 8" steel rounds at 400 yards...

500 was bad.

Tula and Wolf 123 IIRC.

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Those do look like a great way to go, with 7.62x39. You can't ask for more accuracy than that with Tula/Wolf.

I just put a Primary Arms 3X Micro Prism on my AK, with an AK Master Mount. It has the ACSS reticle.

I zero'd it at 22 yards using the 300 yard reticle hold point (Per QuickTarget calculations that is the close-range crossing point).

Then I was banging rocks out to 600 yards using the reticle holdoffs. It is working very well on rocks roughly 18" wide. That was with Tula 122gr FMJ.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Those do look like a great way to go, with 7.62x39. You can't ask for more accuracy than that with Tula/Wolf.

I just put a Primary Arms 3X Micro Prism on my AK, with an AK Master Mount. It has the ACSS reticle.

I zero'd it at 22 yards using the 300 yard reticle hold point (Per QuickTarget calculations that is the close-range crossing point).

Then I was banging rocks out to 600 yards using the reticle holdoffs. It is working very well on rocks roughly 18" wide. That was with Tula 122gr FMJ.

I had a AR or two in x39 and had mag drama (I know, some mags do better than others).

Tried this one on a sale and it has been a great hybrid...

- AK mag feed reliability

- AR bolt lock-up for accuracy.


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I recently added a Primary Arms 3X Micro Prism with the ACSS reticle on the PSAK GF5. Zero'd it and the reticle tracks well out to 600 yards with Tula 122gr FMJ.

I picked up the optic and mount from Rob Ski's online store. It's a good price for optic and the Master Mount package,

https://shop.akoperatorsunionlocal4...ack-SLx-3X-MicroPrism-Annihilator-3x.htm

Being a lefty, I like that the mount doesn't hang down below the receiver and in the way of the trigger at all.

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Inspired by your thread, I swapped a 10x SWFA onto my x39 AR to see what it's capable of. Have some Geco FMJ, and Prvi RN and SP to try. I'll post it, even if it's fuggly!


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It's a great little round. I've never had a AK47 type rifle but, had a Chinese SKS Type 56 years ago, and have wanted to kick my ass several times for selling it. But, have shot a few more and good little rifles. An upper for an AR would be interesting too.


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I really liked my CZ 527 that was chambered in 7.62 x 39 once I rebarreled it to 6.5 Grendel 5 years ago or so. Last year she got another barrel this time in 6mm ARC. So Ill say in my opinion the 7.62 x 39 is ok, 6.5 Grendel is good & 6mm Arc is great.

I am a reloader type of shooter so this may shed some light on my opinion.

The 7.62 x 39, 50 round ammo boxes are cool as well once filled w 6mm ARC ammo.

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Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Inspired by your thread, I swapped a 10x SWFA onto my x39 AR to see what it's capable of. Have some Geco FMJ, and Prvi RN and SP to try. I'll post it, even if it's fuggly!

You bet, I'll be interested in seeing your results. I haven't tried any handloads in the AK, it seems to be about 3 moa on average, with the steel cased ammo.

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