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Gunner,

Makes sense, thanks for the reply!

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here is the bullet I took that buck with the .50. It was cast with 1/20 and that hollow point did it no favor. It went through both shoulder blades and spine.
It ended up the size of a 1/2 dollar.

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You're most welcome Manny.

What a splat that must have been Kurt, never thought about HP's in BPCR's, do remember Bill was fond of the 458 cal. 360 grain Gould HP, said it knocked the crap out of coyotes and hen house raiding stray dogs.


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I had Steve Brooks make a second mould with the HP that is identical to the .50 Creedmoor bullet mainly to reduce the weight but keep all dimensions the same.
I don't remember for sure what the HP took off for weight without casting some but I think it dropped the weight from 718 down to 685 gr. Not much difference but the HP tightened the groups a smidge.
If you want to save the meat loss from a bad hit I would not use the HP for hunting unless you cast them with #2 Lyman smile

The Big .50 is really not needed for Buffalo as much as I like this caliber. The .44-77 will work just fine. Just don't put the shot behind the ear if your a head hunter.


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LOL! Holy Crap Kurt, that 44 cal bullet cut a swath through that skull bone, and here i am worried about only 476 grains of bullet weight in my 44-77, it is a flat nosed paper patch that i cast with 16-1 alloy, leaves my little rifle at 1386 fps over 78gr OE 2F, i guess it indeed would work for Buffalo, i wanted at least 500 grains in my 44, looks like i'm worrying too much about nothing. Thanks. cool


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Gunner that hunting bullet is a 485 gr 1/20 Alloy. The bullet is of the original; Sharps profile.
When Bill saw the scull after the crows and Blue Jays stripped it of hide he said that will do. smile

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Originally Posted by gunner500
LOL! Holy Crap Kurt, that 44 cal bullet cut a swath through that skull bone, and here i am worried about only 476 grains of bullet weight in my 44-77, it is a flat nosed paper patch that i cast with 16-1 alloy, leaves my little rifle at 1386 fps over 78gr OE 2F, i guess it indeed would work for Buffalo, i wanted at least 500 grains in my 44, looks like i'm worrying too much about nothing. Thanks. cool


“Only” 476 grains….. sheesh! grin


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Originally Posted by gunner500
LOL! Holy Crap Kurt, that 44 cal bullet cut a swath through that skull bone, and here i am worried about only 476 grains of bullet weight in my 44-77, it is a flat nosed paper patch that i cast with 16-1 alloy, leaves my little rifle at 1386 fps over 78gr OE 2F, i guess it indeed would work for Buffalo, i wanted at least 500 grains in my 44, looks like i'm worrying too much about nothing. Thanks. cool

The 44-77 left it's mark in history shooting a bullet 1.1 inches long ( 410 grs), not sure but I doubt those buffalo of the 1870's were any tuffer than the pen raised things folks shoot nowadays


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Originally Posted by beretzs
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LOL! Holy Crap Kurt, that 44 cal bullet cut a swath through that skull bone, and here i am worried about only 476 grains of bullet weight in my 44-77, it is a flat nosed paper patch that i cast with 16-1 alloy, leaves my little rifle at 1386 fps over 78gr OE 2F, i guess it indeed would work for Buffalo, i wanted at least 500 grains in my 44, looks like i'm worrying too much about nothing. Thanks. cool


“Only” 476 grains….. sheesh! grin


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Originally Posted by Kurt71
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LOL! Holy Crap Kurt, that 44 cal bullet cut a swath through that skull bone, and here i am worried about only 476 grains of bullet weight in my 44-77, it is a flat nosed paper patch that i cast with 16-1 alloy, leaves my little rifle at 1386 fps over 78gr OE 2F, i guess it indeed would work for Buffalo, i wanted at least 500 grains in my 44, looks like i'm worrying too much about nothing. Thanks. cool


“Only” 476 grains….. sheesh! grin


I'm not a pellet gun shooter laugh laugh

I’d be wary of Gunner’s pellet rifle knowing him grin


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My “eulogy” for Bill will be here soon. Here is a teaser. A big thank you to Jerry!

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LOL Kurt and Beretzs, more lead is always a good thing.

That's really good stuff Pacecars, more than glad to hook you up for that one, it is indeed a one of a kind in many more ways than one, Congrats Sir!


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Picked up the “Bill Bagwell” rifle today! It looks fantastic! It came with a couple surprises, 1 I kinda figured it would have and that is one of Bill’s copper penny front sights and the other was one of his “American Bladesmith Society Founding Member” business cards tucked under the foam in the rifle case. I will post some pics tomorrow I hope. A HUGE shoutout to Gunner500! I can’t thank you enough


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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^cool^^^^^^^^^^^ Good stuff Pacecars, and you're most welcome Sir.


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I am late coming into this thread, as I don't get on the Fire as much as I used to, but I am sorry to hear of Bill's passing. I had the opportunity to learn from him, when he attended the Campfire Hog Hunt in Tennessee, and shared much wisdom with me. He gave me good advice regarding my .45-90 Shiloh #1.

He was, indeed, a rare one.


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