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You always have interesting wildcats that you’re working on and your pictures are magazine quality. 👍


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Whaddayawant?


Tried Sierria 165BTHP Game Kings on
a half dozen deer or so.
By far the "Most deadly" thing I ever shot deer with.
Not a one went more than a few feet, most just dropped.
Huge holes, several had a cloud of hair and mist fly out the offside.



Have seen posts of guys using this bullet out of 300Mags for elk.
And they claim great performance, wasn't there, won't disagree.
Maybe I got a "soft" box, no idea. Quit on them though, the meat
damage was more than tolerable





PS. This with rib/shoulder shots. I don't bother with talking about nervous system shots, its a waste of time. Doesn't prove anything, a 22 in the brain is a light switch.

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"Best". IMO, depends on what the gun likes and critters being hunted.

With our Southern WT's, a 130 Hornady (not the Varmint version) will blow thru the chest with lots of destruction and quick kills.

And, at 3K fps, what's not to like. And it seems that my guns and my bud's guns shoot this bullet very accurately over 59 gr. BG.

Now, with heavier game, I'd go with heavier bullets.

So, far, the 130 Horn groups better than the 125 NAB or NBT, although both of those should perform well on game.

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150 to 180 grain


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Don't know about the 308 but my 300 Savage loves 150 grain. Pretty sure the 308 would too

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In the 300 Savage and 308 I would not load over 165gr FB bullets. Anything else might have to go too deep into the case or out too far.

I load for both.


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As a young man in Alaska I purchased a 742 Remington in 308. I also bought some 150 grain soft point shells for it. No one told me or the moose that those cartridges and that rifle wouldn’t kill the 4 moose with one shot each I killed. After that it was killing deer in ND . What ya don’t know won’t hurt ya. Edk

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Originally Posted by swiper
Working on a new varmit barrel 308 win. in 700 Remington 1 in 12 twist. I had one of these guns 15 to 20 years ago never could get it to shoot. i felt the twist was to slow because standard barrel hunting rifles had 1 in 10 twist. I messed around and got rid of a beautiful rifle. Now Remington still making this lazy twist so it must have been my gun. My question is what bullet weight do you guys shoot with this twist?

I shoot 165 grain Accubonds in mine for pretty much everything but when I was working up loads I came up with a good one for 180s and messed with 190s a little with no indication it wasn't twisted fast enough. My rifle has a 1-12" twist.

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"Best" is usually subjective. My Family and I have killed lots of Deer with 150 grain bullets. The Wife and I use 150 Sierras and the boys when younger used 150 RP, Winchester, Speer, Hornady, ect. Mostly because they tended to loose them from hunt to hunt. With Hogs, its a mute point. We hunt them off of stands like Deer and I usually wait for a head shot from the side.

I just built another 308 with a 20" Varmint weight barrel and a 1-10 twist. My favorite load of 150 Sierras and 4064 shot well but not as well as I wanted so I have some 168 Berger VLD Hunters loaded but have not tried them yet.

The problem with a 308 is choosing the "best" load. They usually shoot so many things well.


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Originally Posted by lightman
"Best" is usually subjective. My Family and I have killed lots of Deer with 150 grain bullets. The Wife and I use 150 Sierras and the boys when younger used 150 RP, Winchester, Speer, Hornady, ect. Mostly because they tended to loose them from hunt to hunt. With Hogs, its a mute point. We hunt them off of stands like Deer and I usually wait for a head shot from the side.

I just built another 308 with a 20" Varmint weight barrel and a 1-10 twist. My favorite load of 150 Sierras and 4064 shot well but not as well as I wanted so I have some 168 Berger VLD Hunters loaded but have not tried them yet.

The problem with a 308 is choosing the "best" load. They usually shoot so many things well.



These "Best" threads grate on my nerves.

It implies sampling every possible bullet, under every condition, using
every possible gun, then proclaiming a single one as clearly superior.

Mule Deer, through his profession and passion, along with an anal record keeping thing trait, has extensive experience and data.

Yet when he enters one of these threads, he often will mention multiple
weights, brands, and mono and cup/core. Their will be mention
of expansion, penetration, and integrity. Not sure if he ever uses
the word best, even to assign it to a particular trait.
More, better....but not best. Even when he mentions that he or Eileen
have settled on a specific bullet in a cartridge, it's still not labeled best.


A pet peeve?
No.
It's about accuracy and intellectual honesty.


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Here's an interesting one, CEB 135 Raptor.

I also like Hammer bullets.

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Surprisingly enough, I was able to get the Barnes 130TTSX to shoot under .5moa at 400yds repeatedly. So it's the "best" bullet in my rifle for 400yds and less. For over 400yds I'd pick a different caliber.

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Is the application varmints? If so, try Speers 130grn HP. Shot great, blew the snot outa chucks and crows.

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