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glysophate causes cancer. It's called the farmer's disease.
I would grind down as far as you can, then use 45% Pure Vinegar - Concentrated Industrial Grade. At least 2 gallons. Only if youre the moron stirring the tank with your arm, getting continually blasted in the face with wind blown overspray. And doing that for 40 years Helps to smoke 3 packs of cigs a day too.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6584108These two Canadian farmers used Roundup on their crops for decades. Then they were diagnosed with cancer Non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma has been called ‘a farmer disease,’ says farmer Richard Elenko Vanessa Caldwell - CBC Docs Posted: September 20, 2022 RichardElenko ‘It’s almost to the point of not whether you get it — it’s when you get it,’ says farmer Richard Elenko. Canadian farmers Garry Gadd and Richard Elenko know that in farming, quantity is the name of the game. "The driver behind everything, more or less, is volume," says Elenko in the documentary Into the Weeds: Dewayne "Lee" Johnson vs. Monsanto Company. "The margins are so little, and so you've got to have scale. To maximize your yield, you've got to minimize your infestation of weeds." To minimize weeds, many farmers use glyphosate-based herbicides like Roundup. According to the film, roughly 736 million pounds of glyphosate are used in agriculture each year globally. "In the farming world, it's an ongoing question: how do you do things bigger, better, faster?" says Gadd in Into the Weeds. "We want to provide the highest quality of food for the world, cheaply. Get crops harvested, sent to market in a timely manner. And I learned to become, for lack of a better word, a real evangelist for Roundup," says Gadd, who began using the herbicide on his Saskatchewan farm in 1997. "I just thought it was the greatest thing in the world." The documentary Into the Weeds tells the story of Dewayne "Lee" Johnson, a former groundskeeper from California, who was the first to go to trial in a series of lawsuits that claimed Monsanto products Roundup and Ranger Pro contributed to plaintiffs' cancer. Monsanto denies that glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup, causes cancer. The film also features others — like Gadd and Elenko — whose lives were upended by a non-Hodgkin's lymphoma diagnosis after using Roundup. Gadd was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma after doctors discovered tumors in his liver and throat. Elenko was diagnosed during a routine checkup. 'Farmers are exposed to it the most, for the longest period of time' "Most farmers now, you look more like a spaceman than you do a farmer when you're loading the machines. And you're loading these machines [with Roundup] every 90 minutes for a week or two weeks," says Gadd in the film. "And then you're doing it again in the summertime, and then you're doing it again in the fall to bring in your harvest. Being on the front line of using this product, farmers are exposed to it the most, for the longest period of time." ITW_farmerprotectivegerar A farm worker wears protective gear in this still from Into the Weeds. (Photo courtesy of Disappearing Insects Productions Inc.) Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma has been referred to as "a farmer disease," Elenko says in the documentary. "It's almost to the point of not whether you get it — it's when you get it." Gadd had a total of 12 treatments for his lymphoma. At the time of filming Into the Weeds, he was considered cancer-free, though the side effects of his treatments took a heavy toll. In the film, he says his oncologist had a choice between giving him a drug that could cause another type of cancer or a drug that could negatively affect his heart. "It did affect my heart. Permanent heart damage," he says. Gadd says he now tries to avoid using Roundup as much as possible, but he continues to use it on his fields — his margins are so low, he can't afford not to. Elenko used Roundup until he stopped actively farming in 2019. Watch Into the Weeds: Dewayne "Lee" Johnson vs. Monsanto Company on CBC Gem.
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It will.
But it'll work better if you mix it with some diesel.
Then cover the stump up with a bucket or something.
The sooner you treat the stump after cutting the better. Fresh cut will carry more herbicide to the roots. I'll add that when I do stumps like this I drill some 1/2" hole in it and fill them with the chosen herbicide. Adding diesel to it is also a fine idea.
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I've had good luck with anything containing Triclopyr. The last one I used was this stuff from Home Depot. It worked well on shoots coming from some hybrid poplars I'd taken out. This photo is a diluted ready to use version. They also carry a concentrate which is the one you want. Paint it on full strength. ![[Linked Image from m.media-amazon.com]](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71P4I2gjfbS._AC_SL1500_.jpg) This! After cutting it down, apply this stuff to the stump. Just enough to wet it...problem solved.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6584108These two Canadian farmers used Roundup on their crops for decades. Then they were diagnosed with cancer Non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma has been called ‘a farmer disease,’ says farmer Richard Elenko Vanessa Caldwell - CBC Docs Posted: September 20, 2022 RichardElenko ‘It’s almost to the point of not whether you get it — it’s when you get it,’ says farmer Richard Elenko. Canadian farmers Garry Gadd and Richard Elenko know that in farming, quantity is the name of the game. "The driver behind everything, more or less, is volume," says Elenko in the documentary Into the Weeds: Dewayne "Lee" Johnson vs. Monsanto Company. "The margins are so little, and so you've got to have scale. To maximize your yield, you've got to minimize your infestation of weeds." To minimize weeds, many farmers use glyphosate-based herbicides like Roundup. According to the film, roughly 736 million pounds of glyphosate are used in agriculture each year globally. "In the farming world, it's an ongoing question: how do you do things bigger, better, faster?" says Gadd in Into the Weeds. "We want to provide the highest quality of food for the world, cheaply. Get crops harvested, sent to market in a timely manner. And I learned to become, for lack of a better word, a real evangelist for Roundup," says Gadd, who began using the herbicide on his Saskatchewan farm in 1997. "I just thought it was the greatest thing in the world." The documentary Into the Weeds tells the story of Dewayne "Lee" Johnson, a former groundskeeper from California, who was the first to go to trial in a series of lawsuits that claimed Monsanto products Roundup and Ranger Pro contributed to plaintiffs' cancer. Monsanto denies that glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup, causes cancer. The film also features others — like Gadd and Elenko — whose lives were upended by a non-Hodgkin's lymphoma diagnosis after using Roundup. Gadd was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma after doctors discovered tumors in his liver and throat. Elenko was diagnosed during a routine checkup. 'Farmers are exposed to it the most, for the longest period of time' "Most farmers now, you look more like a spaceman than you do a farmer when you're loading the machines. And you're loading these machines [with Roundup] every 90 minutes for a week or two weeks," says Gadd in the film. "And then you're doing it again in the summertime, and then you're doing it again in the fall to bring in your harvest. Being on the front line of using this product, farmers are exposed to it the most, for the longest period of time." ITW_farmerprotectivegerar A farm worker wears protective gear in this still from Into the Weeds. (Photo courtesy of Disappearing Insects Productions Inc.) Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma has been referred to as "a farmer disease," Elenko says in the documentary. "It's almost to the point of not whether you get it — it's when you get it." Gadd had a total of 12 treatments for his lymphoma. At the time of filming Into the Weeds, he was considered cancer-free, though the side effects of his treatments took a heavy toll. In the film, he says his oncologist had a choice between giving him a drug that could cause another type of cancer or a drug that could negatively affect his heart. "It did affect my heart. Permanent heart damage," he says. Gadd says he now tries to avoid using Roundup as much as possible, but he continues to use it on his fields — his margins are so low, he can't afford not to. Elenko used Roundup until he stopped actively farming in 2019. Watch Into the Weeds: Dewayne "Lee" Johnson vs. Monsanto Company on CBC Gem. You made my point dumbfukk They used it for DECADES Someone on here applying a little chemical to a stump is not going to wind up at MD Anderson next week. HAPPY CAMPER SOCK PUPPET ^^^^^^^^ Ringman…come suck his nutsack
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glysophate causes cancer. It's called the farmer's disease.
I would grind down as far as you can, then use 45% Pure Vinegar - Concentrated Industrial Grade. At least 2 gallons. Bad advice. But then, that's you. Again. Don't fuggin' bathe in the glyphosate. Pour it on the stump. Might not get cancer that way...
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6584108These two Canadian farmers used Roundup on their crops for decades. Then they were diagnosed with cancer Non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma has been called ‘a farmer disease,’ says farmer Richard Elenko Vanessa Caldwell - CBC Docs Posted: September 20, 2022 RichardElenko ‘It’s almost to the point of not whether you get it — it’s when you get it,’ says farmer Richard Elenko. Canadian farmers Garry Gadd and Richard Elenko know that in farming, quantity is the name of the game. "The driver behind everything, more or less, is volume," says Elenko in the documentary Into the Weeds: Dewayne "Lee" Johnson vs. Monsanto Company. "The margins are so little, and so you've got to have scale. To maximize your yield, you've got to minimize your infestation of weeds." To minimize weeds, many farmers use glyphosate-based herbicides like Roundup. According to the film, roughly 736 million pounds of glyphosate are used in agriculture each year globally. "In the farming world, it's an ongoing question: how do you do things bigger, better, faster?" says Gadd in Into the Weeds. "We want to provide the highest quality of food for the world, cheaply. Get crops harvested, sent to market in a timely manner. And I learned to become, for lack of a better word, a real evangelist for Roundup," says Gadd, who began using the herbicide on his Saskatchewan farm in 1997. "I just thought it was the greatest thing in the world." The documentary Into the Weeds tells the story of Dewayne "Lee" Johnson, a former groundskeeper from California, who was the first to go to trial in a series of lawsuits that claimed Monsanto products Roundup and Ranger Pro contributed to plaintiffs' cancer. Monsanto denies that glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup, causes cancer. The film also features others — like Gadd and Elenko — whose lives were upended by a non-Hodgkin's lymphoma diagnosis after using Roundup. Gadd was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma after doctors discovered tumors in his liver and throat. Elenko was diagnosed during a routine checkup. 'Farmers are exposed to it the most, for the longest period of time' "Most farmers now, you look more like a spaceman than you do a farmer when you're loading the machines. And you're loading these machines [with Roundup] every 90 minutes for a week or two weeks," says Gadd in the film. "And then you're doing it again in the summertime, and then you're doing it again in the fall to bring in your harvest. Being on the front line of using this product, farmers are exposed to it the most, for the longest period of time." ITW_farmerprotectivegerar A farm worker wears protective gear in this still from Into the Weeds. (Photo courtesy of Disappearing Insects Productions Inc.) Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma has been referred to as "a farmer disease," Elenko says in the documentary. "It's almost to the point of not whether you get it — it's when you get it." Gadd had a total of 12 treatments for his lymphoma. At the time of filming Into the Weeds, he was considered cancer-free, though the side effects of his treatments took a heavy toll. In the film, he says his oncologist had a choice between giving him a drug that could cause another type of cancer or a drug that could negatively affect his heart. "It did affect my heart. Permanent heart damage," he says. Gadd says he now tries to avoid using Roundup as much as possible, but he continues to use it on his fields — his margins are so low, he can't afford not to. Elenko used Roundup until he stopped actively farming in 2019. Watch Into the Weeds: Dewayne "Lee" Johnson vs. Monsanto Company on CBC Gem. 🥴🥴🥴😆😆😆 Decades long wading pool slathering it all over em schit.. Like a couple of tards in the Ball pit at chuck e cheese. Dumb fuuuks probably didn't understand the concept of spraying the schit down wind with a cross wind or moving into the wind always blowing away from behind them either while spraying. Or plowing their fields in the direction of the prevailing wind to advoid spraying problems later on. Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
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The lawyers have about given up on Roundup....now its Paraquat and that nasty water from Camp Lejuene.
All pesticides are inherently detrimental to your health if used in a manner that deviates from the label. Problem is hardly anyone ever reads a label much less adheres to the guidelines. If Roundup was that dangerous I know about a couple hundred people offhand that should be dead or dying of cancer and they are not. Damn knee jerkers, the same was said about DDT and Chlordane but they can't find anyone that had cancer due to those.
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It probably would kill it at that spot but I think they can spread from root runners. I am seeing a lot of sprouts around some of mine. Either it is that or seed sprouts. Not 100% sure. I would just spray the sprouts too if you get them. Those are stump sprouts. Perfectly natural for a Crepe Myrtle to sprout these. Glysophate (Roundup) is a systemic herbicide. Put it on the cut off stump and it will kill the tree and any of its stump sprouts.
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The lawyers have about given up on Roundup....now its Paraquat and that nasty water from Camp Lejuene.
All pesticides are inherently detrimental to your health if used in a manner that deviates from the label. Problem is hardly anyone ever reads a label much less adheres to the guidelines. If Roundup was that dangerous I know about a couple hundred people offhand that should be dead or dying of cancer and they are not. Damn knee jerkers, the same was said about DDT and Chlordane but they can't find anyone that had cancer due to those. And those lawyers chose to file suit in the most liberal area they could find to ensure a left leaning jury. Smart thinking given it was a totally useless case to begin with.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6584108These two Canadian farmers used Roundup on their crops for decades. Then they were diagnosed with cancer Non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma has been called ‘a farmer disease,’ says farmer Richard Elenko Vanessa Caldwell - CBC Docs Posted: September 20, 2022 RichardElenko ‘It’s almost to the point of not whether you get it — it’s when you get it,’ says farmer Richard Elenko. Canadian farmers Garry Gadd and Richard Elenko know that in farming, quantity is the name of the game. "The driver behind everything, more or less, is volume," says Elenko in the documentary Into the Weeds: Dewayne "Lee" Johnson vs. Monsanto Company. "The margins are so little, and so you've got to have scale. To maximize your yield, you've got to minimize your infestation of weeds." To minimize weeds, many farmers use glyphosate-based herbicides like Roundup. According to the film, roughly 736 million pounds of glyphosate are used in agriculture each year globally. "In the farming world, it's an ongoing question: how do you do things bigger, better, faster?" says Gadd in Into the Weeds. "We want to provide the highest quality of food for the world, cheaply. Get crops harvested, sent to market in a timely manner. And I learned to become, for lack of a better word, a real evangelist for Roundup," says Gadd, who began using the herbicide on his Saskatchewan farm in 1997. "I just thought it was the greatest thing in the world." The documentary Into the Weeds tells the story of Dewayne "Lee" Johnson, a former groundskeeper from California, who was the first to go to trial in a series of lawsuits that claimed Monsanto products Roundup and Ranger Pro contributed to plaintiffs' cancer. Monsanto denies that glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup, causes cancer. The film also features others — like Gadd and Elenko — whose lives were upended by a non-Hodgkin's lymphoma diagnosis after using Roundup. Gadd was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma after doctors discovered tumors in his liver and throat. Elenko was diagnosed during a routine checkup. 'Farmers are exposed to it the most, for the longest period of time' "Most farmers now, you look more like a spaceman than you do a farmer when you're loading the machines. And you're loading these machines [with Roundup] every 90 minutes for a week or two weeks," says Gadd in the film. "And then you're doing it again in the summertime, and then you're doing it again in the fall to bring in your harvest. Being on the front line of using this product, farmers are exposed to it the most, for the longest period of time." ITW_farmerprotectivegerar A farm worker wears protective gear in this still from Into the Weeds. (Photo courtesy of Disappearing Insects Productions Inc.) Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma has been referred to as "a farmer disease," Elenko says in the documentary. "It's almost to the point of not whether you get it — it's when you get it." Gadd had a total of 12 treatments for his lymphoma. At the time of filming Into the Weeds, he was considered cancer-free, though the side effects of his treatments took a heavy toll. In the film, he says his oncologist had a choice between giving him a drug that could cause another type of cancer or a drug that could negatively affect his heart. "It did affect my heart. Permanent heart damage," he says. Gadd says he now tries to avoid using Roundup as much as possible, but he continues to use it on his fields — his margins are so low, he can't afford not to. Elenko used Roundup until he stopped actively farming in 2019. Watch Into the Weeds: Dewayne "Lee" Johnson vs. Monsanto Company on CBC Gem. You made my point dumbfukk They used it for DECADES Someone on here applying a little chemical to a stump is not going to wind up at MD Anderson next week. HAPPY CAMPER SOCK PUPPET ^^^^^^^^ Ringman…come suck his nutsack Miss Lynn was from Canada... or Connecticut... I forget.
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I’m not worried about glyphosate…..hell, I’m still drinking water that I bottled at camp Lajeune in the 80’s. 😉
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Tordon RTU is what you want. Apply to the stump right after you cut it. If it's been cut awhile rough up the outer rim of the stump before applying. \ I had never heard of Tordon before but googled it and it sounds good. I have a similar project, a bunch of tallow trees I want gone.
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It will.
But it'll work better if you mix it with some diesel. I'm curious about the diesel mixed in, soaking in and not drying out?
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It will.
But it'll work better if you mix it with some diesel. I'm curious about the diesel mixed in, soaking in and not drying out? It holds the herbicide on where you apply it for a long time, actually increasing chances of a complete kill to about 100%
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Hey
Has anyone tried brushing the stump with straight concentrated roundUp??
Im 73 years old and wanted to add my 2 cents
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I know this hasn't been mentioned but I'd brush that fresh stump with 42% Roundup.
That 41% stuff is for snowflakes.
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