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You hit on one of the issues with our healthcare system. If your employer pays for it, you're able to pay for any of your portion using pre-tax dollars.

If you buy insurance yourself, you have to pay for it using post-tax dollars.

Our healthcare system needs an enema.

Goes both ways IME. Folks can always leave their employ if dissatisfied just as the company should be able to toss an employee so desired.

Yeah, funny the unions never figured that out. They just want to be active "partners" with no monetary investment. Just like the government.

Just heard today that all county honchos will be having a can't miss meeting about the Ins.that they have now.

Seems that a lot of folks think that retiring now is the way to go because of the changes that have been put in.

Just glad she is not working any more.

EdM,
That was always nice in theory, or in places with a job/worker ratio
favorable to employees. That sure wasn't anywhere around here.
We've bled workers for decades. If you wanted to live here choices
in employment were a price one paid. That's changed, in a good way.

Things always change, but we are in a period where things are changing
at a crazy pace, and in ways that are typically bizarre to us old fashioned folks. The changes are hurting everyone on the supply side.
Businesses are caught in the middle, while workers are at the bottom
of the pecking order. Tough times and adjustments are hitting the whole
system.





Notice the tone of several posters?
Attacking workers/unions?

Never hid the fact I'm union, not gonna re-hash hash I've frequently hashed.

Also haven't blasted the employer.
It's simple math, they wanna keep the money, I'd like payed more.
Standard fare. And it never changes, I'm well compensated, won't say
I'm not. This contact would be very good in non inflationary times,
for me.
My fight was for guys hired in the future, people I've not yet met.


This thread was simply trying to get a handle on how common this
employee only thing has become.

Seems like the better your health insurance the sicker you are. The government has mandated that you are dependent on the medical industry, pharmaceutical and insurance companies to survive, while they make record profits.

DBuck,
My post was more of a summary as it pertained to JM's post and what an employer/business needs produced to cover the cost of operating.
Was simply showing that there is much more expense[per employee] than payroll/HC/pension etc
Wasn't slamming anything or anyone.
Have zero issue with Unions.

We paid 100% of employee only and 50% of family HC up until about 15 years ago, rates went out of site and we reduced our portion to 50% of employee only.
There was no way that we could continue paying what we had prior and remain operating.

In this day, that's good insurance.

Honk for Obama.

He's the one who Commized health care.

The govt. has taken over the entire health care industry. Period. End of story.

Quote from DillonBuck:
"It is interesting how these threads show the resentment
some employers have for their employees.
Bet that is the employees fault, and that you are a fair, kind and benevolent
boss."

If directed at me then you are totally clueless.

Over 90% of our employees have stayed with us for 20+ years.This is over the 80+ years that we've operated.
They are the companies most valuable asset and become family.

In my tenure as 'boss' we've had:
One employee who's wife had major heart surgery not go well, the surgery was performed 150 miles away.
She stayed there for nine months.
The employee worked approximately 10 hours a week over that nine months[average], we paid him as if he were here full time along with benefits and helped with his living expense near the hosp. even though he requested a LOA.

Another elderly employee was diagnosed with lung cancer. His story is very similar to above except that it lasted 2 years up until he passed.

So if directed at me......

because Md's need Benz, their own airplanes and country club memberships and how dare we expect them to be accountable to their patients or the law

Don't you know, being a Dr is God given talent. Any so blessed are obligated to share that talent with the world.


For peanuts, eggs, and the occasional live chicken.


So I was told by an old man still working at 75 years, not because he loves to work. But because he can not support himself and his wife on Social Security alone. And neither has any savings, pensions, or other source of income.

Gotcha.

And you should have a few issues with unions.
They dam sure aren't perfect, formed to right wrongs, they sure
have committed their own wrongs. Past and present.
I say that as an objective union member.
But they aren't Satan, but they do give him money.


On the other post.
It was directed at you.
Read too much into what you said, was wrong.
My apologies.